Your link goes to an 1841 census (this version from FMP) not a baptism
1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census Stair Brow, Wigan, Lancashire, England
First name(s) Last name Sex Age Birth year Birth place John Yates Male 55 1786 Lancashire, England Tailor Elizabeth Yates Female 20 1821 Lancashire, England Edmund Yates Male 14 1827 Lancashire, England Jane Yates Female 9 1832 Lancashire, England John Nevil Male 15 1826 Lancashire, England
Tailor to Labourer or vice versa is a bit of a change
So which baptism are you looking at.
Have you found him 1851 to give a place of birth and perhaps a more accurate year of birth. Above could make him 55-59 years of age
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Thank you greyghost for your message I will take a look at 1851
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Are you sure about the 1841?
1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census Duke Street, Wigan, Lancashire, England
Jane Yates Female 60 1781 Lancashire, England Alice Yates Female 15 1826 Lancashire, England Alice Appleton Female 75 1766 Lancashire, England
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First name(s) Alice Last name Yates
Gender Female Birth year 1825 Birth place Wigan Lane Baptism year 1825 Baptism date 20 Nov 1825 Residence Wigan, Lancashire, England Place Wigan County Lancashire Country England Father's first name(s) John Father's last name Yates Mother's first name(s) Jane Mother's last name Yates Record set England Births & Baptisms 1538-1975 Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Subcategory Parish Baptisms Collections from England, Great Britain
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I do have a Alice 1825 a sibling to Edmund. Another Alice died at birth 1820
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CAn't get onto Family Search at the moment - Error messages !!
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It appears to be working greyghost
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Baptism: 17 Dec 1826 St Thomas the Martyr, Upholland, Lancashire, England Edmund Yates - daughter of John Yates & Jane Abode: Holland Occupation: Tailor <<<<< Baptised by: Jno. Bird Register: Baptisms 1825 - 1841, Entry 275 Source: LDS Film 1657546
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Baptism: 25 Jun 1820 St Thomas, Upholland, Lancashire, England Elizabeth Yates - daughter of John Yates & Jane Abode: UpHolland Occupation: Taylor Baptised by: Jno. Bird Register: Baptism 1813 - 1825, Page 179, Entry 1428 Source: LDS Film 1657546
Baptism: 8 Feb 1818 St Thomas, Upholland, Lancashire, England Ellen Yeats - daughter of John Yeats & Jane Abode: UpHolland Occupation: Tailor Baptised by: Jno. Bird Register: Baptism 1813 - 1825, Page 125, Entry 994 Source: LDS Film 1657546
Burial: 2 Sep 1819 St Thomas the Martyr, Up Holland, Lancashire, England Ellen Yates - Daughter of John Yates & Jane Age: 1 Abode: Upholland Buried by: Rev. Wiliam Bird Curate Register: Burials 1813 - 1825, Page 167, Entry 2 Source: LDS Film 1657546
Marriage: 11 Jun 1843 All Saints, Wigan, Lancashire, England Henry Pell - (X), 27, Stonemason, Bachelor, Upholland Elizabeth Yates - (X), 22, Spinster, Upholland Groom's Father: William Pell, Stonemason Bride's Father: John Yates, Tailor & Draper Witness: John Sevill; Ann Pell, (X) Married by Banns by: John Lomas Curate Register: Marriages 1842 - 1844, Page 137, Entry 273 Source: LDS Film 1885694
Baptism: 31 Oct 1813 St Thomas, Upholland, Lancashire, England Sarah Yates - Daughter of John Yates & Jane Abode: UpHolland Occupation: Tailor Baptised by: Revd. Jno. Bird A.B. Curate Register: Baptism 1813 - 1825, Page 21, Entry 161 Source: LDS Film 1657546
Baptism: 1 Jan 1811 All Saints, Wigan, Lancashire, England Richard Yates - first Son of John Yates & Jane (formerly Apperton) Born: 6 Dec Abode: Scholes Occupation: Labourer Mother's Parents: William & Mary Apperton Register: Baptisms 1799 - 1812, Page 358 Source: Original register at Wigan Archives
Marriage: 25 Jan 1808 All Saints, Wigan, Lancashire, England John Yates - (X), this town [Wigan] Jane Appleton - (X), this town [Wigan] Witness: Wm. Bancks; Margt. Appleton, (X) Married by Banns by: C D Wray Curate Register: Marriages 1803 - 1812, Page 207, Entry 786 Source: LDS Film 1885690
Baptism: 7 Jan 1787 All Saints, Wigan, Lancashire, England Jane Appleton - first Daur. of William Appleton & Mary (formerly Heyes) Born: 20 Dec Abode: Woodhouses Occupation: Weaver Mother's Parents: James & Margt. Heyes Register: Baptisms 1779 - 1799, Page 168
Baptism: 26 Jan 1823 St Thomas, Upholland, Lancashire, England John Yates - son of John Yates & Jane Abode: UpHolland Occupation: Tailor Baptised by: Jno. Bird Register: Baptism 1813 - 1825, Page 238, Entry 1897 Source: LDS Film 1657546
Burial: 3 Apr 1823 St Thomas the Martyr, Up Holland, Lancashire, England John Yates - Son of John Yates & Jane Age: 3 months Abode: Upholland Buried by: Rev. Wiliam Bird Curate Register: Burials 1813 - 1825, Page 245, Entry 8 Source: LDS Film 1657546
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Burial: 8 Jan 1841 St Thomas the Martyr, Upholland, Lancashire, England Jane Yates - Age: 56 Abode: Holland Register: Burials 1825 - 1847, Page 430, Entry 3433 Source: LDS Film 1657555
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Thank you for the above Maddie
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1841 ??? Name: John Yates Age: 55 Estimated birth year: abt 1786 ------------- a tailor Gender: Male Where born: Lancashire, England Civil Parish: Wigan Hundred: West Derby County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address:
Occupation: View image Registration district: Wigan Sub-registration district: Upholland Neighbors: Piece: 522 Book: 20 Folio: 50 Page Number: 28 Household Members: Name Age John Yates 55 Elizabeth Yates 20 Edmund Yates 14 Jane Yates 9
Baptism: 17 Dec 1826 St Thomas the Martyr, Upholland, Lancashire, England Edmund Yates - daughter of John Yates & Jane Abode: Holland Occupation: Tailor Baptised by: Jno. Bird Register: Baptisms 1825 - 1841, Entry 275 Source: LDS Film 1657546
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Best place to look for Lancashire baptisms/marriages/burials is Lancashire Online Parish Records ............. lancsopc
http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/Search/indexp.html
It's free, and that is where Maddie got those records.
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Yes I have used this site and I was having a few problems finding the information ? required.
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Marriage: 2 Feb 1806 All Saints, Wigan, Lancs. John Yates - (X), Upholland Jane Glover - (X), Upholland Witness: Wm. Bancks; John Glover Married by Banns by: C Wray Curate Register: Marriages 1803 - 1812, Page 114, Entry 561 Source: LDS Film 1885690
Marriage: 25 Jan 1808 All Saints, Wigan, Lancs. John Yates - (X), this town [Wigan] Jane Appleton - (X), this town [Wigan] Witness: Wm. Bancks; Margt. Appleton, (X) Married by Banns by: C D Wray Curate Register: Marriages 1803 - 1812, Page 207, Entry 786 Source: LDS Film 1885690
In Jan/Feb 1806, there were 51 marrs at Widan All Saints, and 45 in Jan/Feb 1808. Wm Bancks is a witness on 50 of these in 1806, and 43 in 1808. I would term him a "professional witness".
A search at: https://www.ancestry.co.uk/search/collections/wiganmarriages/ should get the original images - I don't have a sub so can't verify this
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