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Marriage and births in Egypt

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Andrew

Andrew Report 16 Aug 2019 23:11

Can anyone help, possibly with a FMP record?

I'm looking for a marriage for Herbert Haughton Hill, born about 1865. He was in the army. All I know about his wife is her initials, A M A (taken from 1911 Irish census) born c1871. They also had two children in egypt, Herbert James and Arthur.

thanks for any help.

Andy

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 17 Aug 2019 00:03

????

Herbert Houghbond
Last name Hill
Marriage year 1897
Marriage date 13 Dec 1897
Spouse's first name Harriet Mary Ann
Spouse's last name Gerr
Place Sialkot
Presidency Bengal
Groom's father's first name John William
Groom's father's last name Hill
Bride's father's first name James
Bride's father's last name Haggart
Catalogue description Parish register transcripts from the Presidency of Bengal, : 1713-1948
Archive reference N-1-261
Folio number 232
Entry number -
Record set British India Office Marriages

She was a widow.
He was a Sgt Major XI Hussars.
Residence Peshwan & Scalkar?
Married by Licence
Witnesses Thomas G W Spence & D E Young

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 17 Aug 2019 00:08

From his army records his wife's name was Harriet Mary Ann Gerr, a widow. They married at Holy Trinity Church, Sialkot, India on 13th Dec. 1897.
Children Kathleen Mary, born 22-7-1895, Arthur Sidney born 7-10-1900, Herbert James born 4-5-1902 and Daisy Marguerite born 25-10-1904.

Kath. x

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 17 Aug 2019 00:11

Egyptian birth for Herbert James Hill

Herbert James
Last name Hill
Sex Male
Birth year 1902
Place Cairo
Country Egypt
Organisation Armed Forces
Source Gro Army Birth Indices (1881 To 1965)
Archive
General Register Office
Archive reference BARM
Record's year range 1902
Page 432
Line number 104

Could the younger be Arthur Sidney?

Arthur Sidney
Last name Hill
Sex Male
Birth year 1900
Place Cairo
Country Egypt
Organisation Armed Forces
Source Gro Army Birth Indices (1881 To 1965)
Archive
General Register Office
Archive reference BARM
Record's year range 1900
Page 443
Line number 351

Same boy or a different one? Regiment is the same as the marriage posted earlier

Arthur S
Last name Hill
Sex Male
Birth year 1900
Place Egypt
Country Egypt
Regiment 11th Hussars
Organisation Armed Forces
Source Gro Regimental Birth Indices (1761 To 1924)
Archive
General Register Office
Archive reference REG1
Record's year range 1900
Page 91
Volume 274
Line number 66

Could you run to purchasing the BC for Herbert James Hill?

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 17 Aug 2019 00:18

Katheen Mary (Hill) was born before the marriage

Kathleen M
Last name Gerr
Sex Female
Birth year 1895
Place Sealkote
Country India
Regiment Royal Artillery
Organisation Armed Forces
Source Gro Regimental Birth Indices (1761 To 1924)
Archive
General Register Office
Archive reference REG1
Record's year range 1895
Page 1
Volume 331
Line number 75

Her father was in the Royal Artillery
Kathleen M
Last name Gerr
Sex Female
Birth year 1895
Place Sealkote
Country India
Regiment Royal Artillery
Organisation Armed Forces
Source Gro Regimental Birth Indices (1761 To 1924)
Archive
General Register Office
Archive reference REG1
Record's year range 1895
Page 106
Volume 393
Line number 76

safc

safc Report 17 Aug 2019 00:29

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1904/01807/1708101.pdf



SR District/Reg Area - Naas

Birth of DAISY HILL on 25 October 1904

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Name DAISY HILL
Date of Birth 25 October 1904
Group Registration ID 4702167
SR District/Reg Area Naas
Sex N/R
Mother's Birth Surname HAGGART
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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 17 Aug 2019 00:34

Possible earlier birth from first marriage

Henry
Last name Gerr
Birth year 1897
Birth date 15 Jul 1897
Baptism year 1897
Baptism date 29 Sep 1897
Place Sialkot,Holy Trinity
Presidency Bengal
Father's first name(s) Henry
Father's last name Gerr
Mother's first name(s) Harriet Mary Ann
Mother's last name -
Archive reference N-1-259
Folio 146

Father was a Deceased Sergeant.

Death of young Henry
Henry
Last name Gerr
Birth year 1897
Death date 16 Oct 1897
Death year 1897
Age 3M
Burial date 16 Oct 1897
Place Sialkot
Presidency Bengal
Archive
The British Library
Archive Reference N-1-261
Folio -
Page 349

Death of father Henry Gerr
Henry
Last name Gerr
Birth year 1862
Death date 08 May 1897
Death year 1897
Age 35
Burial date 09 May 1897
Place Murree
Presidency Bengal
Archive
The British Library
Archive Reference N-1-258
Folio -
Page 201

He was a Gunner 33rd Btn Dn? R A
Died of Pneumonia aged 20 yrs 5 mths
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Henry
Last name Gerr
Birth year 1863
Birth parish East Farleigh
Birth town Maidston(e)
Birth county Kent
Birth country England
Service number -
Regiment Royal Artillery
Year 1887
Attestation date 26 Jul 1887
Attestation age years 24
Attestation age months 6
Attestation corps Royal Artillery
Discharge corps Royal Artillery
Document type Attestation

Says he was 24yrs 6 mths on enlistment & was a traveller for a Brewery.
Died at Lower Topa, Murrell Hills of "Acute Peritonitis". Wonder if they couldn't read the cause of death? Age doesn't tally with the burial record, but the date of death is the same.
Promoted through the ranks - Bombardier, Corporal & finally Sergeant.

Got it right on the DC

Gro Army Death Indices (1881 To 1955)
Archive reference DARM
War -
Record set British Armed Forces And Overseas Deaths And Burials
First name(s) Henry
Sex Male
Last name Gerr
Death year 1897
Birth year 1863
Type Armed Forces
Country India
Place Murree
Page 147
Age 34
Birth date ? ? 1863
Records year range 1897
Line number 203

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 17 Aug 2019 07:52

Harriet's first marriage:-

First name(s) HARRIET MARY A
Last name HAGGART
Marriage quarter 1
Marriage year 1892
Registration month -
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HARRIET MARY A HAGGART married one of these people

>>>>>Henry Gerr,<<<<< George Monsell

District Woolwich
District number -
County London
Country England
Volume 1D
Volume as transcribed 1D
Page number 1257
Record set England & Wales Marriages 1837-2005

Kath. x

Andrew

Andrew Report 17 Aug 2019 09:47

Many many thanks to everyone who has taken the time to post. This is excellent research!

So their marriage was India not Egypt, they got around in the army. There is a reference to Herbert being in the 11th Hussars in the Chelsea Hospital records in 1905.

Lots to be working on.

Thanks once again.

Andy

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 17 Aug 2019 10:10

Harriet and Herbert are on the electoral registers between 1921 and 1931 at 2 Belmont Villas, Bellevue Road, Aldershot. Herbert James is on some of the records.

Kath. x

Andrew

Andrew Report 17 Aug 2019 10:33

Herbert Hill married a great aunt of my wifes in 1931 in Surrey and thats the link I'm working on. This new info will let me get into the family. There may be a small DNA link.

Andy