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ErikaH
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23 Jul 2019 10:46 |
You can’t view your earlier responses because you sent PM’s
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Chris Ho :)
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23 Jul 2019 07:21 |
Below also on FMP...
Chris :)
National Burial Index For England & Wales (Find My Past)
Last name Litlwod Age 0 Birth year 1611 Death year 1611 Burial year 1611 Burial date 02 Oct 1611 Church Almondbury All Hallows
England Births & Baptisms 1538-1975
First name(s) Anna Last name Litlwod Gender Female Baptism year 1612 Baptism date 16 Aug 1612 Place Almondbury County Yorkshire Father's first name(s) Johis. Father's last name Litlwod
You need to see original Parish Registers...
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ArgyllGran
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22 Jul 2019 22:12 |
Val - you say you've found the info on Ancestry/FMP/Familysearch.
I don't have a sub to FMP, so can't say anything about that, but I can find no record of baptism of a Dorothy (of any spelling) in Almondbury, with father John (or other spelling) except the one in 1590, on either Ancestry or FS.
I've found another transcription of Elizabeth's baptism - showing that her mother is Alicia, not Joanne:
. Elizabeth Litlewodde in the West Yorkshire, England, Church of England Baptisms, Marriages and Burials, 1512-1812 Name: Elizabeth Litlewodde Event Type: Baptism Baptism Date: 9 Jul 1570 Baptism Place: Almondbury, All Hallows, Yorkshire, England Parish as it Appears: Almondbury, All Hallows Father: Johes Litlewodde Mother: Alicia Boothe
And I found the burial of an Elizabeth, which I've already posted - though I can't say if she's the same person or not, as the burial record doesn't give her age or father's name.
I can't find burial records for either Dorothy or Isabella.
Similarly, although there definitely was the marriage of a John Littlewoodd and a Joanna Boothe in 1561, so far as I know we have no proof that's the same John who is the father of the three ladies.
Here is another transcription of the marriage Malyon posted - but it shows the marriage was in December 1611, which means this is not the same Elizabeth who died in June 1611:
. Elizabeth Litlewood in the England & Wales Marriages, 1538-1988 Name: Elizabeth Litlewood Gender: Female Marriage Date: 8 Dec 1611 Marriage Place: Almondbury, Yorkshire, England Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Map: View this parish Spouse: Willimus Roback
I apologise if I'm wrong, but it does seem as if you have either assumed that things in other people's trees are correct, without any actual records to back it up, or else have assumed that records are for the same people, when they may be for other people of the same name.
There were several Elizabeth and Dorothy Littlewoods (of various spellings) in Almondbury.at around the same time.
The marriage of Dorothy Littlewood and John Taylor, which Malyon posted, may indeed be your Dorothy's marriage, but equally could be the marriage of one of the other Dorothys. No father's name is given on the original document.
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Valerie
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22 Jul 2019 20:28 |
malyon Hi, thank you for this. This has been a short marriage 1611 for Elizabeth re death also in 1611. Val.
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Valerie
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22 Jul 2019 20:21 |
greyghost Hi, thank you I will look at these links. ( have replied earlier but I cannot view it?) Val.
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Valerie
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22 Jul 2019 20:19 |
ErikaH Hi, the source of the info is from Ancestry/Find my past/Family Search. Elizabeth was born 1570 July 9th. Death 1611 June 6th. Thanks Val. (I have responded earlier to you but I cannot view it?)
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Valerie
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22 Jul 2019 20:05 |
ArgyllGran
HI, that is quite a discrepancy in birth dates for Dorothie especially when the others are correct? As far as I know considering records from the 1600s. According to my ancestry notes their mother Joanna Boothe (Joannae Booth) Married 1561 and died 1577. Val.
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malyon
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22 Jul 2019 19:32 |
Elizabeth Litlewood England Marriages, 1538–1973 Name: Willimus Roback Spouse's Name: Elizabeth Litlewood Event Date: 1611 Event Place: Almondbury, York, England
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malyon
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22 Jul 2019 19:29 |
Dorotheae Litlewodde England Marriages, 1538–1973
Name: Joannes Taylier Spouse's Name: Dorotheae Litlewodde Event Date: 26 Jul 1587 Event Place: Almondbury, York, England
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ArgyllGran
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22 Jul 2019 19:04 |
There are these births on FamilySearch - but no deaths or burials. Doroth*'s birth not in the year you quote, unless there was an earlier child of the same name:
Name: Dorothea Litlewodde Gender: Female Christening Date: 23 Aug 1590 Christening Date (Original): 23 AUG 1590 Christening Place: ALMONDBURY,YORK,ENGLAND Father's Name: Johis. Litlewodde Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C01712-2 System Origin: England-ODM GS Film number: 230649
Name: Elizabeth Litlewodde Gender: Female Christening Date: 09 Jul 1570 Christening Date (Original): 09 JUL 1570 Christening Place: ALMONDBURY,YORK,ENGLAND Father's Name: Johis. Litlewodde Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C01712-2 System Origin: England-ODM GS Film number: 230649
Name: Isabella Lytlewodde Gender: Female Christening Date: 20 May 1565 Christening Date (Original): 20 MAY 1565 Christening Place: ALMONDBURY,YORK,ENGLAND Father's Name: Johis. Lytlewodde Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C01712-2 System Origin: England-ODM GS Film number: 230649
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ArgyllGran
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22 Jul 2019 18:48 |
Where did you find that info, Val?
A tree on Rootsweb gives 6 June 1611 as the burial date of Isabella (not her date of death), but no DOD's for the other two sisters, and in any case there's no proof indicated.
https://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=cks&id=I64516 https://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=cks&id=I55119 https://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=cks&id=I53057
There are also several trees on Ancestry showing the sisters, but again, with no proof of death or burial.
For actual records, there's this burial on Ancestry - not a death date:
Elizabeth Littwod in the West Yorkshire, England, Church of England Baptisms, Marriages and Burials, 1512-1812 Name: Elizabeth Littwod Event Type: Burial Death Date: abt 1611 [ no death date on image ] Burial Date: Jun 1611 [ 6 June on image ] Burial Place: Almondbury, All Hallows, Yorkshire, England Parish as it Appears: Almondbury, All Hallows
The image of the parish record does not show burials of any other Littlewoods (or variant) in June1611.
It also does not show that Elizabeth's age or any NOK info, so no way of knowing if she's the same Elizabeth .
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greyghost
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22 Jul 2019 18:44 |
googled - illnesses in England 1611
One result is this site which shows plague was around in 1611
http://www.fraser-courtman.co.uk/list_of_famines_&_pestilences_england.html
another - http://www.mongenes.org.uk/epidemics_in_bri.html 1602-1631 - Smallpox outbreaks all over the country
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ErikaH
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22 Jul 2019 18:42 |
What is the source of the info about their deaths?
What is the reference to July 9th against Elizabeth ?
If she was born on that date, she couldn’t have been 41 if she died on 6th June
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Valerie
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22 Jul 2019 16:48 |
Hi, Could anyone help please?
There are three Littlewood sisters in my family tree.
Isabella Born 1565 - age 46 Almondbury Dorothie Born 1567 - age 44 Almondbury Elizabeth Born 1570 July 9th age 41 Almondbury
Parents Johnis Littlewood & Joanne Boothe
All died 1611 June 6th in Whitewalls Almondbury, trying to fined out what happened to them all at the same time.
Scance information I can find from 1611.
Fingers crossed.
Many thanks
Val Elson.
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