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Christine
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10 Jul 2019 11:33 |
I’m trying to find anyone who may be related to my ancestors, JOHN AND MATTHEW BELL of Glasgow They founded BELL’S POTTERY in the 1800’s. I’ know that I’m descended from them but there’s a gap in my knowledge.
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10 Jul 2019 11:38 |
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1851 Census 5 Records found Piece: SCT1851/622 Place: Barony -Lanarkshire Enumeration District: 18 Civil Parish: Blythswood Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: - Folio: 585 Page: 11 Schedule: 33 Address: 245 St Vincent Street
Surname First name(s) Rel Status Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks BELL Jane Head W F 81 Proprietor Of Houses Lanarkshire - Glasgow BELL John Son U M 44 Manuf Of China & Earthenwares Lanarkshire - Glasgow BELL Matthew P Son U M 42 Manuf Of China & Earthenwares Lanarkshire - Glasgow FLEMING Isabella Servnt U F 25 Housemaid Argyllshire - Jura MONTGOMARIE Elisabeth Servnt U F 26 Cook Renfrewshire - Eaglesham
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10 Jul 2019 11:43 |
1841 Census 9 Records found Piece: SCT1841/622 Place: Barony -Lanarkshire Enumeration District: 6 Civil Parish: Barony Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: - Folio: 42 Page: 6 Address: 245 St. Vincent Street
Surname First name(s) Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks BELL John M 75 Merchant Lanarkshire BELL John Jun. M 30 Writer Lanarkshire BELL Matthew P. M 30 Merchant Lanarkshire BELL William J. M 70 Lanarkshire CARSE William M 80 Independent Lanarkshire PAUL Mary F 50 Female Servant Outside Census County (1841) RODAN Janet F 30 Female Servant Outside Census County (1841) MEIKLEHAM Isabella F 25 Female Servant Lanarkshire BINNIE Margret F 20 Female Servant Outside Census County (1841)
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10 Jul 2019 11:49 |
Record Transcription: 1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census
St Vincent Street, Barony, Blythswood, Lanarkshire, Scotland
Household Members Members that resided in the household at the time of the census. First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Matthew P Bell Head Unmarried Male 52 1809 Potter Employing 550 Men Women And Children Gorbals, Lanarkshire, Scotland Robert Reid - Married Male 21 1840 Potter Bowl Maker Ayrshire, Scotland R Reid Servant Married Female 33 1828 Domestic Serv Carluke, Lanarkshire, Scotland Matthew P B Reid - - Male 1 1860 Son Of Mrs Reid Barony, Lanarkshire, Scotland Margaret McMillian Servant Unmarried Female 16 1845 Domestic Serv Campbeltown, Argyllshire, Scotland
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10 Jul 2019 12:28 |
First name(s) Mathew Perston Last name Bell Gender Male Birth year 1808 Birth place - Baptism year 1808 Baptism date 02 Sep 1808 Baptism place GORBALS,LANARK,SCOTLAND Father's first name(s) John Father's last name Bell Mother's first name(s) Jane Mother's last name Perston Place Gorbals County Lanarkshire Country Scotland Record set Scotland Births & Baptisms 1564-1950 Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Subcategory Parish Baptisms Collections from Scotland, Great Britain
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Maddie
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10 Jul 2019 13:16 |
Matthew Perston Bell Birth 24 Aug 1808 Death 18 Feb 1870 (aged 61) Burial Glasgow Necropolis Glasgow, Glasgow City, Scotland Memorial ID 145749489 · View Source Family Members Parents John Bell
1765–1842
Jane Perston Bell
1769–1858
Siblings John Bell
1806–1880
Name: Matthew Perston Bell Birth Date: 24 Aug 1808 Death Date: 18 Feb 1870 Cemetery: Glasgow Necropolis Burial or Cremation Place: Glasgow, Glasgow City, Scotland Has Bio?: N Father: John Bell Mother: Jane Bell URL: https://www.findagrave.com/mem...
wife of brother john
Emma Milner Bell Birth 22 Jan 1832 Death 5 Dec 1855 (aged 23) Glasgow City, Scotland Burial Glasgow Necropolis Glasgow, Glasgow City, Scotland Memorial ID 145749480 · View Source
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The Beloved Wife of John Bell his son Born 22 Jan 1832 Died 5th Dec 1855 in her 24th year
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ArgyllGran
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10 Jul 2019 14:20 |
John with two servants in 1861:
John Bell in the 1861 Scotland Census Name: John Bell Age: 54 Estimated birth year: abt 1807 Relationship: Head Gender: Male Where born: Glasgow, Lanarkshire Registration Number: 471 Registration district: Baldernock Civil Parish: Baldernock County: Stirlingshire Address: Bardowie House Occupation: China & Earthenware Manufacturer Employing 600 Men Women & Children ED: 1 Household schedule number: 2 Line: 7 Roll: CSSCT1861_63 Household Members: Name Age John Bell 54 Charlotte Gill 50 Janet Heddleston 24
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10 Jul 2019 14:26 |
Here's an online book about the pottery and the family:
http://www.bellsglasgowpottery.com/
It seems to tell you everything you could possibly want to know! Apart from present day descendants/relatives, that is.
John died 28 March 1880.
John & Emma's marriage:
Marriages Jun 1855 (>99%) BELL John Scarbro' 9d 479 MILNER Emma Scarbro 9d 479
They went on honeymoon to Italy.
Read the book - it's fascinating!
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ArgyllGran
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10 Jul 2019 14:38 |
Interestingly, the book contains a chapter with a long list of John's next of kin after his death.
One of them was Jean McVean nee McFarlane, wife of John McVean, gamekeeper at Slockavullin, Kilmartin.
I remember that some years ago there was a long thread on here about the McFarlane family.
Yes, here it is: https://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1340347
Jean and husband John come in on page two of that thread.
On reading through it again, I see that there's also info about Elizabeth Brodie nee McFarlane (Jean's sister), wife of Robert Brodie, gamekeeper at Poltalloch, Kilmartin. Elizabeth is another of John Bell's long list of NOK.
However, the thread is about the McFarlanes mainly, and there's no mention of the Bells.
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ArgyllGran
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10 Jul 2019 14:42 |
Christine - you say "there's a gap in my knowledge".
What do you know, and what is the gap?
We may be telling you things you already know.
Neither Matthew nor John had children, so any relatives will be descended from cousins (if any).
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