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8 Jul 2019 21:33 |
Please could someone look on Ancestry at the image of a marriage entry. This is the entry I'm looking for:-
Marriages Dec 1862 Beacham John Clutton 5c 1129 Elmes Maria Clutton 5c 1129
Clutton is in Somerset. Could you look at the image and see what information it has, especially who the Fathers are please.
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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8 Jul 2019 21:46 |
Does it have the certificate or just transcription
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8 Jul 2019 21:53 |
I'm hoping it has the certificate. A lot of the Somerset records do have the certificate, but not all.
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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8 Jul 2019 21:54 |
It’s only the record
View England & Wales, Civil Registration Marriage Index, 1837-1915 Name: Maria Elmes Registration Year: 1862 Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec Registration district: Clutton Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District Inferred County: Somerset Volume: 5c Page: 1129 Records on Page: Name John Beacham Maria Elmes
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8 Jul 2019 22:00 |
Thanks for your help Shirley. It's obviously one of the ones not showing the certificate.
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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8 Jul 2019 22:01 |
Maria was born 1838 so should show on the 1841 census and the 1851
Mariah Beacham Age: 33 Estimated birth year: abt 1838 Relation: Wife Spouse's name: John Beacham Gender: Female Where born: Sutton, Somerset, England Civil Parish: Farmborough County/Island: Somerset Country: England Registration district: Clutton Sub-registration district: Clutton ED, institution, or vessel: 4 Household schedule number: 46 Piece: 2470 Folio: 104 Page Number: 8 Household Members: Name Age John Beacham 34 Mariah Beacham 33 Annie Matilda Beacham 7 Herbert George Beacham 6 Ada Maria Beacham 4 Elizabeth Ann Beacham 2 Charles Beacham 1
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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8 Jul 2019 22:04 |
3 years dif in birth year but maybe
Maria Elms Age: 6 Estimated birth year: abt 1835 Gender: Female Where born: Somerset, England Civil Parish: Chew Magna Hundred: Chew County/Island: Somerset Country: England Street address:
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View image Registration district: Clutton Sub-registration district: Chew Magna Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 938 Book: 1 Folio: 3 Page Number: 6 Household Members: Name Age Charles Elms 35 Charity Elms 31 Elizabeth Elms 12 Harriet Elms 10 Charles Elms 8 Maria Elms 6 Sarah Elms 4 James Elms 3 William Elms 6 Mo
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9 Jul 2019 00:39 |
Thanks Shirley for the census info - just seen that you have posted them. Very helpful - thanks.
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Maddie
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9 Jul 2019 11:52 |
1881 census confirms birth found by shirley
John Beacham Head Married Male 40 1841 Coal Miner Clutton, Somerset, England Maria Beacham Wife Married Female 46 1835 - Chew Magna, Somerset, England ----------------------------- Annie M Beacham Daughter Single Female 17 1864 Servant (Out Of Employ) Farmborough, Somerset, England Herbert G Beacham Son Single Male 16 1865 Coal Miner Farmborough, Somerset, England Elizabeth A Beacham Daughter Single Female 12 1869 Scholar Farmborough, Somerset, England Charles Beacham Son Single Male 11 1870 Scholar Farmborough, Somerset, England Sarah J Beacham Daughter Single Female 8 1873 Scholar Timsbury, Somerset, England Samuel J Beacham Son Single Male 7 1874 Scholar Timsbury, Somerset, England
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ArgyllGran
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9 Jul 2019 12:02 |
Maria Elms in the Somerset, England, Church of England Baptisms, 1813-1914 Name: Maria Elms Baptism Date: 7 Sep 1834 Baptism Place: Chew Magna, Somerset, England Parish as it Appears: Chew Magna Father: Charles Elms Mother: Charity Elms
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Charity Elmes in the Somerset, England, Marriage Registers, Bonds and Allegations, 1754-1914 Name: Charity Elmes Gender: Female Marriage or Bann Date: 23 Jul 1828 Marriage Place: Bath, St Michael, Somerset, England Parish as it Appears: Bath, St Michael Spouse: Charles Elmes <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Bachelor and spinster; no fathers mentioned. Witnesses: Robert Orchard and Martha [Mendenhall ? ]
Robert Orchard was witness to several marriages at that church, so probably not a relative.
Charity Elmes in the Somerset, England, Church of England Burials, 1813-1914 Name: Charity Elmes Age: 78 Birth Year: abt 1807 Burial Date: 22 Nov 1885 Burial Place: Chew Magna, Somerset, England Parish as it Appears: Chew Magna
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9 Jul 2019 12:21 |
Charles Elmes in the Somerset, England, Church of England Baptisms, Marriages, and Burials, 1531-1812 Name: Charles Elmes Event Type: Baptism Baptism Date: 7 Sep 1804 Baptism Place: Chew Magna, Somerset, England Parish as it Appears: Chew Magna Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Map: View this parish Father: James Elmes Mother: Lydia Elmes
James Elems in the Somerset, England, Marriage Registers, Bonds and Allegations, 1754-1914 Name: James Elems Gender: Male Marriage or Bann Date: 2 Aug 1794 Marriage Place: Somerset, England Parish as it Appears: Chew Magna Search Photos: Spouse: Lydia Collins
James was a widower and Lydia a spinster.
It's a long and difficult to decipher document, the gist of which seems to be that James Elems of the parish of Chew Magna, yeoman, and William Robins of the parish of Stowey, yeoman, bind themselves to pay £200 to the Lord Bishop of Bath and Wells. "The condition of this obligation " is that if no lawful impediment is found by reason of any contract entered into before before 25 March 1754 , "James Elems, a widower, and Lydia Collins, a [something] and spinster, may lawfully solemnise marriage together." If the marriage took place, the bond to pay £200 would be null and void; if not, it would remain in "full force and virtue".
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9 Jul 2019 12:52 |
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James Elms in the Somerset, England, Church of England Baptisms, Marriages, and Burials, 1531-1812 Name: James Elms [Jabus Elms] Event Type: Baptism Baptism Date: 1 Jan 1755 Baptism Place: Chew Magna, Somerset, England Parish as it Appears: Chew Magna Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Map: View this parish Father: Samuel Elms Mother: Jane Elms
First marriage, maybe ??
James Elmes in the Somerset, England, Marriage Registers, Bonds and Allegations, 1754-1914 Name: James Elmes Gender: Male Marriage or Bann Date: 20 Aug 1786 Marriage Place: Chew Magna, Somerset, England Parish as it Appears: Chew Magna Spouse: Sarah Fifoot
Witnesses: Samuel Taylor and James Fifoot.
Daughters with first wife ??
Anne Elms in the Somerset, England, Church of England Baptisms, Marriages, and Burials, 1531-1812 Name: Anne Elms Event Type: Baptism Baptism Date: 24 Nov 1787 Baptism Place: Stowey, Somerset, England Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Map: View this parish Father: James Elms Mother: Sarah Elms
Sarah Fifoot in the Somerset, England, Church of England Baptisms, Marriages, and Burials, 1531-1812 Name: Sarah Fifoot Event Type: Baptism Baptism Date: 1 Feb 1789 Baptism Place: Chew Magna, Somerset, England Parish as it Appears: Chew Magna Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Map: View this parish Father: Jas Elmes Mother: Sarah Elmes
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Jan.
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9 Jul 2019 23:05 |
Thank you very much Maddie and ArgyllGran for the extra info you have given me about the family. It is much appreciated.
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9 Jul 2019 23:43 |
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John Beacham in the England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 Name: John Beacham Gender: Male Baptism Date: 31 May 1840 Baptism Place: Clutton, Somerset, England Father: George Beacham Mother: Mary FHL Film Number: 1526552
John Beacham in the 1851 England Census Name: John Beacham Age: 10 Estimated birth year: abt 1841 Relation: Son Father's name: George Beacham Mother's name: Mary Beacham Gender: Male Where born: Clutton, Somerset, England Civil Parish: Clutton Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps: View related Ecclesiastical Parish County/Island: Somerset Country: England Registration district: Clutton Sub-registration district: Clutton ED, institution, or vessel: 6b Neighbors: Household schedule number: 100 Piece: 1939 Folio: 245 Page Number: 27 Household Members: Name Age George Beacham 34 Mary Beacham 33 John Beacham 10 Anna Beacham 8 David Beacham 6 Maria Beacham 4 Enoch Beacham 1
John Beacham in the 1861 England Census Name: John Beacham Age: 20 Estimated birth year: 1841 Relation: Son Father's name: George Beacham Mother's name: Mary Beacham Gender: Male Where born: Clutton, Somerset, England Civil Parish: Clutton County/Island: Somerset Country: England Registration district: Clutton Sub-registration district: Clutton ED, institution, or vessel: 2 Neighbors: Household schedule number: 94 Piece: 1679 Folio: 31 Page Number: 19 Household Members: Name Age George Beacham 45 Mary Beacham 44 John Beacham 20 - coal miner David Beacham 16 Maria Beacham 13 Samuel Beacham 5 Sarah Jane Beacham 3
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9 Jul 2019 23:49 |
Thanks ArgyllGran for John's baptism date and 1861 census info - I hadn't got that info.
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