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20 Jul 2019 08:28 |
Dave & Matilda's son Mick (Micheal) died in 1995 and is buried at Bunbury: http://www.ozburials.com/CemsWA/Bunbury/bunbury_l.htm
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19 Jul 2019 11:59 |
Another thread posted now................
https://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1378566
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6 Jul 2019 18:25 |
Edward William J Leverentz in the Australia, World War II Military Service Records, 1939-1945 Name: Edward William J Leverentz Birth Date: 25 May 1903 Birth Place: London England Year Range: 1939 - 1948 Enlistment Place: Kalgoorlie Western Australia Service Number: W72432 Next of Kin: Edward Leverentz Series Description: B884: Army Citizen Military Forces
Edward William David Leverentz in the UK, Royal Navy Registers of Seamen's Services, 1848-1939 Name: Edward William David Leverentz Gender: Male Birth Date: 25 May 1903 Birth Place: St Pancras, London First Service Date: 5 Dec 1918 First Ship Served On: Ganges II Last Service Date: 30 Nov 1921 Last Ship Served On: Pembroke I Service Number: J94005
On joining, he was 4' 9", with a 30 in chest. At age 18 he was 5' 5.5", with a 34" chest. Brown hair, blue eyes, Fresh complexion. White ensign on left wrist.
Reason for discharge: Invalided (CSOM)
As a child, Edward was also in and out of London workhouses, along with Edmund, Alice Ethel, and Albert Thomas.
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6 Jul 2019 12:07 |
Edward William David (Edmund's son, and the man who is buried in Kalgoorlie) going to Australia
Mr E W D Leverentz in the UK, Outward Passenger Lists, 1890-1960 Name: Mr E W D Leverentz Gender: Male Age: 19 Birth Date: abt 1903 Departure Date: 27 May 1922 Port of Departure: London, England Destination Port: Fremantle, Australia Ship Name: Orvieto Shipping Line: Orient Line Official Number: 129628 Master: W S Shelford
Address in UK: Church Army Training Farm, Hempstead Hall, near Saffron Walden.
Occupation: Farm hand.
Re Church Army: http://www.childrenshomes.org.uk/CA/ The Church Army's Social Department aimed to "raise the hopeless outcasts of society"
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Mr E W D Leverentz in the Fremantle, Western Australia, Passenger Lists, 1897-1963 Name: Mr E W D Leverentz Departure Place: London, United Kingdom Arrival Date: 29 Jun 1922 Arrival Place: Fremantle, Western Australia, Australia Vessel: Orvieto
Address in Australia: c/o Immigration Office, Perth, WA
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6 Jul 2019 11:50 |
I suspect that Edmund is this son of Pehr and Lucy:
Births Sep 1881 (>99%) Leverentz Pehr Edmond G Westminster 1a 490
Pher Edmund Gustave Leverentz in the England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 Name: Pher Edmund Gustave Leverentz Gender: Male Baptism Date: 21 Mar 1888 Baptism Place: St. Luke's Church, Westminster, Middlesex, England Father: Pher Leverentz Mother: :Lucy FHL Film Number: 1468963
Pehr Edmund Gustave Leverentz in the Web: UK, Burial and Cremation Index, 1576-2014 Name: Pehr Edmund Gustave Leverentz Register Type: Cremation Death Date: 21 Feb 1955 Burial or Cremation Date: 28 Feb 1955 Burial or Cremation Place: Southwark, London, England
?? Peter E G Leverentz in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007 Name: Peter E G Leverentz Death Age: 73 Birth Date: abt 1882 Registration Date: Jan 1955 [Feb 1955] [Mar 1955] Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar Registration district: Lambeth Inferred County: London Volume: 5c Page: 1490
Pehr Edmund Gustave Leverentz in the Web: UK, Burial and Cremation Index, 1576-2014 Name: Pehr Edmund Gustave Leverentz Register Type: Cremation Death Date: 21 Feb 1955 Burial or Cremation Date: 28 Feb 1955 Burial or Cremation Place: Southwark, London, England
Peter Leverentz in the 1891 England Census Name: Peter Leverentz Gender: Male Age: 9 Relationship: Son Birth Year: 1882 Father: Peter Leverentz Birth Place: St James, London, England Civil Parish: St James Westminster Residence Place: Westminster, St James Westminster, London, England Sub registration district: St James Westminster ED, Institution or Vessel: 16 Neighbors: Piece: 87 Folio: 70 Household Members: Name Age Peter Leverentz 54 Chrithera Leverentz 21 Emily Leverentz 17 Martha Leverentz 16 Oscar Leverentz 14 Sarah Leverentz 13 Peter Leverentz 9 Thomas Leverentz 5 Rose Leverentz 3
Edmund was in and out of the workhouse - various workhouse records So was son Albert (haven't checked for other family members) - 1905, 1906, 1907
1911:
Edmund Leverentz in the 1911 England Census Name: Edmund Leverentz Age in 1911: 32 Estimated birth year: abt 1879 Relation to Head: Inmate Gender: Male Birth Place: St James Civil Parish: St Anne within the Liberty of Westminster County/Island: London Country: England Street address: Westminster Union Workhouse, 49 Poland St, Oxford St W Marital status: Married Years Married: 8 Estimated Marriage Year: 1903 Occupation: COOPER Registration district: Westminster Registration District Number: 6 Sub-registration district: St James and St Anne ED, institution, or vessel: 20-23 Piece: 514 Household Members: Name Age Edmund Leverentz 32 Alice Leverentz 31
Looks as if Ethel Howes was really Alice Ethel Howes.
Births Sep 1880 (>99%) Howes Alice Ethel Fulham 1a 248
She was a casualty of WW2. Death registration record already posted.
Here's the Civilian Death record:
Alice Ethel Leverentz in the UK, WWII Civilian Deaths, 1939-1945 Name: Alice Ethel Leverentz Estimated birth year: abt 1882 Death Date: 15 Oct 1940 Death Place: Southwark, London, England Age at Death: 58 Spouse: Edmund Leverentz
Alice Ethel Leverentz, age 58; of 30 Elsted Street. Wife of Edmund Leverentz. 15 October 1940, at Flint Street Shelter.
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6 Jul 2019 11:30 |
Sorry - I'm hooked. Will delete if it turns out to be the wrong family!
Looks like Edmund and son Thomas E in 1939. New wife for Edmund ?? Can't see a marriage.
Ernest and Ethel have been listed first as Leverentz, then changed to Wright. Deed poll ?
Births Sep 1921 (>99%) Leverentz Ernest W (mms Howes) Southwark 1d 148
Births Sep 1923 (>99%) Leverentz Ethel R L (mms Howes) Southwark 1d 138
Ethel (as Wright ) married a Marsden in 1974.
Edmund Leverentr in the 1939 England and Wales Register Name: Edmund Leverentr Gender: Male Marital status: Married Birth Date: 1 Aug 1880 Residence Year: 1939 Address: 30 Elsted Str. Residence Place: Southwark, London, England Occupation: General Labourer Schedule Number: 55 Sub Schedule Number: 1 Enumeration District: AUKL Registration district: 20/2 Inferred Spouse: Alice E Leverentr Inferred Children: Thomas E Leverentr Ernest W Leverentr Ethel R L Leverentr Household Members: Name Edmund Leverentr Alice E Leverentr - 18 Aug 1880 Thomas E Leverentr - 3 Nov 1915 - single Ernest W Leverentr [Wright ] - 6 June 1921 - single Ethel R L Leverentr [ Wright] - 17 June 1923 - single
Deaths Dec 1940 (>99%) Leverentz Alice E 58 Southwark 1d 78
Ethel Rosita L Marsden in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007 Name: Ethel Rosita L Marsden Death Age: 64 Birth Date: 11 Jun 1923 Registration Date: Aug 1987 Registration district: Bromley Inferred County: Greater London Volume: 11 Page: 896
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6 Jul 2019 11:04 |
Just in case that family is correct, and just because I came across it;
Another sibling:
LEVERENTZ, ALBERT THOMAS ms HOWES GRO Reference: 1905 M Quarter in WESTMINSTER Volume 01A Page 497
Albert Thomas Leverentz in the London, England, Church of England Births and Baptisms, 1813-1917 Name: Albert Thomas Leverentz Gender: Male Record Type: Birth Birth Date: 24 Dec 1905 Birth Poor Law Union: Westminster Birth Place: Westminster, Westminster, England Mother: Alice Ethel Leverentz Register Type: Parish RegistersAnd here are Edward and Albert in 1911, with ages a couple of years out:
[Note: Ethel Howes is Alice Ethel - see also later posts.]
Edward Leverence in the 1911 England Census Name: Edward Leverence Age in 1911: 10 Estimated birth year: abt 1901 Relation to Head: Boarded Out Children <<<<<<<<< Gender: Male Birth Place: London, England Civil Parish: Heacham County/Island: Norfolk Country: England Street address: 2 Bolivia Terrace, Phoenix House, Caley Street, Heacham, Norfolk Registration district: Docking Registration District Number: 234 Sub-registration district: Snettisham ED, institution, or vessel: 14 Household schedule number: 107 Piece: 11606 Household Members: Name Age Albert James Jackson 36 Emily Louisa Jackson 33 Priscilla Jackson 30 Ethel Lilian Jackson 10 Charles Jackson 6 Edward Leverence 10 Albert Leverence 8 - London, boarded out child
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6 Jul 2019 09:59 |
Message opened yesterday. Let’s hope that the OP has the time & is able to respond.
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5 Jul 2019 12:02 |
Plenty of other records relating to the Leverentz/Howes family, who seemed to have fallen on to hard times.
For instance, Edward W D's marriage in WA
Leverence Edward W D Male Nazzari Matilda Female Wellington Reg no 56 Year 1936
However, rather than spend time disappearing down the 'wrong' rabbit hole, it might be better to wait to hear from Phyllis.
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5 Jul 2019 11:36 |
PM sent to Phyllis asking for feedback.
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5 Jul 2019 11:31 |
Probable Birth for Edward William David Leverence, Australian burial found by ArgyllGran
LEVERENTZ, EDWARD WILLIAM DAVID (mothers maiden name) HOWES GRO Reference: 1903 J Quarter in ST. PANCRAS Volume 01B Page 44
Either it was a shotgun wedding if his parents were Edmund Leverentz & Ethel Howes, or he was the son of a different Leverentz/Howes couple.
Siblings? LEVERENTZ, HARRY EDMUND mmn HOWES GRO Reference: 1907 M Quarter in ST MARYLEBONE Volume 01A Page 498
LEVERENTZ, SYDNEY mmn HOWES GRO Reference: 1912 J Quarter in WESTMINSTER Volume 01A Page 827
LEVERENTZ, THOMAS EDMUND mmn HOWES GRO Reference: 1915 D Quarter in SOUTHWARK Volume 01D Page 213
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4 Jul 2019 13:58 |
Deaths:
LEVERENCE , Dave. Husband of Pat . 11 March 1984 . Aged 81 years LEVERENCE , Matilda. Mother of Pat, Ted, Dot, Les, Mick (dec) and Linda . 9 April 2006 . Aged 91 years http://www.ozburials.com/CemsWA/Kalgoorlie/boulder_l.htm
Burial: LEVERENCE Edward William David 81 13/Mar/1984 Anglican http://www.outbackfamilyhistory.com.au/records/record.php?record_id=882
and also on that site, presumably a mistranscription:
LEVERETT Matilda 91 09/Apr/2006 Anglican
LEVERENCE, Matilda (Pat) 10-03-1915 – 09-04-2006 Burial: 18-04-2006 Funeral Director: Espernace Funeral Service Service held in Star of the Sea Catholic Church. Inscription: ‘In Loving Memory of Matilda (Pat) 91 years Loved wife of Dave. Loving mother of Pat, Ted, Dot, Les, Mick and Linda. Loved grandmother of 18. loved great-grandmother of 28 ~Our Mum~ Rest peacefully with dad & Mick’ http://www.australiancemeteries.com.au/wa/esperance/esperancedatal.htm
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4 Jul 2019 13:38 |
http://ryersonindex.org/search.php Has 3 entries for the surname published in a WA paper. Considering the 2006 dates of publication, it could be for the same death.
The Western Australian Ask a Librarian Service should be able to send you a copies of the text.
https://slwa.wa.gov.au/contact-us
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4 Jul 2019 11:52 |
There were Leverences on Kalgoorlie Electoral Rolls in the 1970's and 1980.
And by Googling "Leverence, Kalgoorlie" there are more recent mentions of Leverences in Kalgoorlie.
Unfortunately the Australian White Pages isn't letting me access their website: https://www.whitepages.com.au/residential
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4 Jul 2019 09:53 |
What research have you done yourself? Do you know the name of the son who went to Australia? It's always possible that he further anglicised the spell of his names.
For our benefit, are these your ancestors? - 1881 England Census Pehr Leverentz Age: 42 Estimated birth year: abt 1839 Relationship to Head: Head Spouse: Lucy Leverentz Gender: Male Where born: (F), Sweden Civil Parish: St James County/Island: London Country: England Street address: 6 Marshall St Marital status: Married Education:
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Occupation: Tailor Registration district: Westminster Sub registration district: Golden Square ED, institution, or vessel: 8 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 123 Folio: 68 Page Number: 17 Household Members: Name Age Pehr Leverentz 42 Lucy Leverentz 36 Cailsa Leverentz 14 Lucy Leverentz 12 Anna Leverentz 11 Minnie Leverentz 9 Emily Leverentz 7 Martha Leverentz 6 Osker Leverentz 4 Sarah Leverentz 3
An alternative family could be the one featured in this marriage Name: Edmund Leverentz Gender: Male Marriage Age: 21 Record Type: Marriage Birth Date: abt 1882 Marriage Date: 6 May 1903 Marriage Place: St John the Evangelist, Charlotte Street, Camden, England Father: Pehr Leverentz - occupation Sailor Spouse: Ethel Howes
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4 Jul 2019 09:44 |
Phyllis, beside yourself, 2 other people have a Pehr Leverentz listed in their trees. Have you sent them a message?
Tina has 2 people of that name, 1834, Sweden & 1881, London - father & son? Rachel lists only the younger man. Rachel's account was opened more recently than Tina's.
https://www.genesreunited.co.uk/messages/7865783/discover?rk=346819588 https://www.genesreunited.co.uk/messages/11826017/discover?rk=528154543
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Phyllis
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4 Jul 2019 08:09 |
I am hoping to contact any descendants of Pehr and Lucy Leverentz/Leverence. I believe one of the the grandsons emigrated to Kalgoorlie. Western Australia. My great grandfather was Pehr Leverentz born in Sweden.
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