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Think it's more likely to be the Skipton Lewis Preston in 1869 than the Lewis Preston in 1860 from Worcester but you never kniw.

I found a Lewis Preston born in Worcester and one born in Yorkshire not a common name Lewis Preston. If its the Worcester one then that woukd be good

Ah ah. Just found a wedding of Lewis Preston and Mary Rowling in 1896 think on Knaresborough which is nearish to Skipton. I think thst often happened didn't it thst the witnesses were an engaged couple.
So think it is definately Rowling. Rowling is a Durham name I think anyway. Think? Preston is maybe Yorkshire as it coukd be from long Preston. I'm fascinated with names. Ignore me ha ha.
Does this help dea? To know that their witnesses were an engaged couple called Lewis Preston and Mary Rowling who married shortly after?

This will be 'our' Emma !!

1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census

1, Henwick Road, Worcester St Clement, Worcester, Worcestershire, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
James Bannister Father Head Married Male 35 1846 Laborer Stanford Bishop, Herefordshire, England
Fanny Bannister Mother Married Female 29 1852 - Leigh, Worcestershire, England
Emma Mitchal Daughter Single Female 6 1875 - Powick, Worcestershire, England
James Mitchal Son Single Male 4 1877 - Herefordshire, England
George Bannister Son Single Male 0 1881 - St Clement, Worcestershire, England

Dea x

Witnesses were Lewis Preston and Mary Rowling or ramping. It's hard to read marys surname I'm afraid. Maybe Rowling. Definately Lewis Preston though
Hope that helps

Thanks dea. Will just check now. Noticed a James Wilkinson aged 51 in hartlepool dying in 1880 so this may he possibly his dad, long shot but woukd explain maybe why no trace of him

Here he is:

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Lynn Street, Stranton, Hartlepool, Durham, England

Members that resided in the household at the time of the census.
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
James Turnbull Head Single Male 41 1850 Draper Scotland
James Wilkinson Boarder Single Male 30 1861 Draper Assistant Durham, England
Thomas R Buck Boarder Single Male 25 1866 Draper Assistant Yorkshire, England
Samuel T Cockburn Boarder Single Male 24 1867 Draper Assistant Wales
Joseph Allen Boarder Single Male 20 1871 Draper Assistant Yorkshire, England
William Wilson Boarder Single Male 21 1870 Drapers Apprentice Yorkshire, England
John H Calverley Boarder - Male 17 1874 Drapers Apprentice Yorkshire, England
Albert Milner Boarder - Male 15 1876 Drapers Apprentice Kirby Knowle, Yorkshire, England
Elizabeth Turnbull Sister Single Female 29 1862 Milliner Scotland
Isabella Turnbull Sister Single Female 23 1868 Mantle Saleswoman Scotland
Rose Fraser Boarder Single Female 24 1867 Dressmaker Scotland
Mary H Wilson Boarder Single Female 30 1861 Mantle Saleswoman Lancashire, England
Sarah Steptoe Servant Single Female 24 1867 Housekeeper Durham, England
Charlotte Rewis Servant Single Female 20 1871 Domestic Servant Durham, England

Dea x

I am looking ................

Frank was a drapers apprentice but I haven't found James yet.............

In the meanwhile - I still need the details of those marriage witnesses please?

Dea x

If we can get James closer to Skipton in 1891 then I'll think it's all good. His father was deceased on his wedding certificate in 1895 in Skipton. Wonder if they are on the 1891.maybe James dad had to travel as an innkeeper to new pubs like they do now

I'm thinking it's still odd that they married in Skipton Yorkshire. And on wedding certificate it has him as 33 and her as 22. A bit out ThT I think. That for him. Unless he was pretending to be younger.. Not unusual to lie about age though I guess. I think you have hit home with this.
Are you able to find James on the 1891 at all?
Thanks

Interesting. Maybe that's why went towards Yorkshire if he is from Durham. I'll look more closely at that then. Perhaps if they had children who died before birth that woukd explain why no child until 1901 if they married in 1895. Maybe met in Yorkshire then moved back towards her place of birth here then back to near Skipton again after marriage to have edward

1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census
High Street, Willington, Durham, Durham, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
James Wilkinson Head - Male 41 1830 - Yorkshire, England
Jane Wilkinson Wife - Female 40 1831 - Durham, England
Mary A Wilkinson Daughter - Female 19 1852 - Durham, England
Elizabeth Wilkinson Daughter - Female 18 1853 - Durham, England
William Wilkinson Son - Male 18 1853 - Durham, England
**James Wilkinson Son - Male 11 1860 - Durham, England
**Francis Wilkinson Son - Male 9 1862 - Durham, England
Jane Wilkinson Daughter - Female 2 1869 - Durham, England

YES !!! - father James is an Innkeeper !!!!!!!!!!

Dea x

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census
14, Warwick Road, Sparkhill, Yardley (Worcs), Solihull, Worcestershire, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
James Wilkinson Head Married Male 42 1859 Hosier Willington, Durham, England
Emma Wilkinson Wife Married Female 27 1874 - Powick, Worcestershire, England
Frank Wilkinson Visitor Married Male 41 1860 Hosier Wellington, Durham, England


It certainly 'could' be them - the occupation is very similar !

I will see if I can link Frank.....................

Dea x

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Births Jun 1874

MITCHELL Emma Upton 6c 346




https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/

MITCHELL, EMMA -
GRO Reference: 1874 J Quarter in UPTON UPON SEVERN Volume 06C Page 346

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1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census

14, Warwick Road, Sparkhill, Yardley (Worcs), Solihull, Worcestershire, England


James Wilkinson Head Married Male 42 1859 Hosier Willington, Durham, England
Emma Wilkinson Wife Married Female 27 1874 - Powick, Worcestershire, England
Frank Wilkinson Visitor Married Male 41 1860 Hosier Wellington, Durham, England

Is there anyone out there able to post details of the James Wilkinson born 1859 in Worcester and Emma Wilkinson born 1874 in Solihull Worcester pkease on the 1901 census in Solihull to see if these two are the correct pair? As she wS definately born in Worcester and it seems that when she is with James she is known as Emma then it may be them.
Thanks

Not unlikely that he woukd maybe move to Burnley to do business if he was doing well. Emma or Katherine Emma remarried in 1905 to Frederick George. She married in Sussex I think so she did a quick move and married if he died in 1905. Her family were possibly in Worcester maybe so why she went to Sussex goodness only knows. Worth a try though

16 Vernon Street. Nelson. Padiham Road HD many many shops as well as pubs. Especially on the same side as the pubs eg Union pub, Derby Arms, barracks tavern etc. Vernon Street is in Nelson. His business was in Nelson Market Hall. I'd say Nelson and Burnley are about 20 miles or less apart. Next towns to each other

Was there any street number for the Vernon St address please?

Who were the witnesses on that marriage cert?

The Padiham address came from a little newspaper snippet I found relating to the sale of "STOCK-IN-TRADE of Draper and Milliner Business" at 141 Padiham Rd
owing to the 'death of the proprietor'. - This was in the 04 March 1905 issue of the Burnley Gazette and I thought it might help us trace your James' death if it had been 'his' business stock up for sale. - Probably no connection here though but everything is worth following until discounted !

Dea x

Hi again
Someone said they had found maybe them on the 1901 in Solihull. Yardley. James Wilkinson being 42 and Emma or Katherine Emma being 27. Can anyone find this census entry?
I know she is supposed to be born in 1877 but I think perhaps she is pretending to be four years older when with James. On her wedding to James in Skipton she is 22 she says, that's in 1895.
Can anyone find a birth in Worcester for Katherine Emma, Catherine Emma or even just Emma Mitchell in 1877, 1873 with father William Mitchell a farmer?
Thanks
Shirley