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Cyril Atherton

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Skyflash

Skyflash Report 29 Jun 2019 11:01

I am trying to trace my family history I am looking for a Cyril Atherton who was born in Dec 1920 I'm am looking for his father and mother. I have found two births for him one in Stretford which has no mothers name and one in Barton upon Irwell with mothers name Whitfield and am unsure which is the correct one if either. His Father was a Samuel Atherton. I have found his wedding to Norma Warburton but unable to find anything else on Cyril Atherton. I would be grateful for any help.

Dea

Dea Report 29 Jun 2019 11:14

Cyril Atherton's life in 1939
42 Chester Street, Swinton and Pendlebury M.B., Lancashire, England

Atherton household
(4 people)
First name(s) Last name(s) DOB Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule Sub Number
Samuel Atherton 05 Jul 1892 Male Bus Driver Married 377 1
May A Atherton 19 Mar 1894 Female House Wife Married 377 2
Cyril Atherton 27 Nov 1920 Male Apprentice Fitter Engineering Single 377 3
Charles Atherton 07 Sep 1922 Male Apprentice Butcher Single 377 4

Dea x

Dea

Dea Report 29 Jun 2019 11:17

This confirms that his father Samuel was a Bus driver as on the above census - the address is also the same:

Marriage: 6 Nov 1943 Market Street Congregational, Farnworth, Lancashire, England
Cyril Atherton - 22, Petty Offocer DMX 509927 Royal Navy (Fitter Electrical Engineers), Bachelor, 42 Chester St Swinton
Norma Warburton - 19, Lathe Operator Munition Works (Machinist Shirt Manufacturers), Spinster, 9 Tulip Avenue Farnworth
Groom's Father: Samuel Atherton, Bus Driver
Bride's Father: Norman Warburton, Lead Moulder
Witness: Charles Atherton; Hilda Walker
Source: Church Registers transcribed by Bolton Genealogy Group

Dea x

Rambling

Rambling Report 29 Jun 2019 11:19

Births Sep 1922 (>99%)
Atherton Charles mmn Whitfied Barton I. 8c 1073

Rambling

Rambling Report 29 Jun 2019 11:20

Marriages Dec 1916 (>99%)
Atherton Samuel Whitfield Barton I. 8c 963
Whitfield Mary A Atherton Barton I. 8c 963

Dea

Dea Report 29 Jun 2019 11:20


Marriages Dec 1916 (>99%)
Atherton Samuel Whitfield Barton I. 8c 963 Scan available - click to view
Whitfield Mary A Atherton Barton I. 8c 963 Scan available - click to view

Dea x

Skyflash

Skyflash Report 29 Jun 2019 11:30

Thanks For all your help would anyone be able to find Samuel Atherton's Birth I'm having trouble with this and also finding Samuel Atherton on the Census to see his family. We are trying to find out if we are related to any Atherton's who fought in the ww1. Also how do I access Cyril Atherton Navy records as we never even knew our grandfather was in the Navy very interesting. Thanks again.

Rambling

Rambling Report 29 Jun 2019 12:11

Alan, as there are a number of Samuel Athertons born around the same time ( 2 in same qtr 1892) you will probably need to buy the marriage cert for Samuel 1916, hopefully his father will be named on it and then you can find family on the 1911 census.

If the birth date for him is accurate on the 1939 register then he is likely to be one of these 2
Births Sep 1892 (>99%)
Atherton Samuel Ashton 8d 505
Atherton Samuel Leigh 8c 291

Rambling

Rambling Report 29 Jun 2019 12:14

Re WW2 service records for Cyril see

https://www.gov.uk/get-copy-military-service-records/apply-for-someone-elses-records

malyon

malyon Report 29 Jun 2019 12:20

Samuel Atherton
England and Wales Census,Name:
Samuel Atherton
Event Type:
Census
Event Date:
31 Mar 1901
Event Place:
Lowton, Lancashire, England, United Kingdom
County:
Lancashire
Civil Parish:
Lowton
Ecclesiastical Parish:
St Luke
Sub-District:
Lowton
Registration District:
Leigh
Gender:
Male
Age:
8
Relationship to Head of Household:
Son
Birth Year (Estimated):
1893
Birthplace:
Lowton, Lancashire
Schedule Type:
108
Page Number:
19
Household Role Sex Age Birthplace
Samuel Henry Atherton Head Male 43 St Helens, Lancashire
Mary Ann Atherton Wife Female 47 Lowton, Lancashire
William Atherton Son Male 22 Lowton, Lancashire
John Atherton Son Male 20 Lowton, Lancashire
Thomas Atherton Son Male 19 Lowton, Lancashire
Lily Atherton Daughter Female 12 Lowton, Lancashire
Rachel Atherton Daughter Female 10 Lowton, Lancashire
Samuel Atherton Son Male 8 Lowton, Lancashire
James Atherton Son Male 6 Lowton, Lancashire

malyon

malyon Report 29 Jun 2019 12:30

have you found cyril in the 1939 reg.

Rambling

Rambling Report 29 Jun 2019 12:37

Malyon the 1939 register is posted .

Rambling

Rambling Report 29 Jun 2019 13:17

As the person may still be alive I've left the exact date of birth off this for data protection, but you can find it at http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/

Baptism: **** 1944 Market Street Congregational, Farnworth, Lancashire, England
Jack Atherton - Child of Cyril Atherton & Norma (formerly Warburton)
Born: ****1944
Abode: 9 Tulip Ave Farnworth
Occupation: Engine K Artfcer Fitter RN
Notes: [Born in Farnworth]
Source: Church Registers transcribed by Bolton Genealogy Group

also a later birth is listed, you'll probably know that already, but it might be of interest for occupation and address.

Maddie

Maddie Report 29 Jun 2019 14:51

is this the other samuel

First name(s) Last name(s) DOB Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule Sub Number
Samuel Atherton 09 Aug 1892 Male Gas Meter Inspector Married 128 1
Mabel Atherton 17 Jan 1894 Female Box Tenter Cott? Married 128 2
Enid King (Atherton) 02 Feb 1922 Female Instrument Inspector (Communications) Single 128 31939 Register logo
The National Archives logo
Samuel Atherton's life in 1939
67 Oldham Road, Limehurst R.D., Lancashire, England

SAMUEL
Last name ATHERTON
Birth year 1892
Birth quarter 3
Registration month -
Mother's maiden name Morris
District Ashton under Lyne
County Lancashire
Country England
Volume 8D
Page 505

SAMUEL
Last name ATHERTON
Marriage quarter 4
Marriage year 1916
Registration month -

MarriageFinder ™


SAMUEL ATHERTON married one of these people

Mabel Wilkinson
Spouse's last name Wilkinson
District Ashton under Lyne
District number

ENID
Last name ATHERTON
Birth year 1922
Birth quarter 1
Registration month -
Mother's maiden name Wilkinson
District Ashton under Lyne

Rambling

Rambling Report 29 Jun 2019 15:04

EDIT NOT this one,
I was looking at that one Maddie, this was the family in 1901, mmn Morris

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census
11, Canning Street, Ashton under Lyne, Lancashire, England


James Atherton Head Married Male 38 1863 Gas Works Stoker Lancashire, England
Charlotte Atherton Wife Married Female 37 1864 - Ashton under Lyne, Lancashire, England
Bertha Atherton Daughter Single Female 15 1886 Cotton Mill Setter In Card Room Ashton under Lyne, Lancashire, England
James Atherton Son Single Male 14 1887 Cotton Spinners Piecer Ashton under Lyne, Lancashire, England
Elizabeth A Atherton Daughter Single Female 12 1889 - Ashton under Lyne, Lancashire, England
Samuel Atherton Son Single Male 8 1893 - Ashton under Lyne, Lancashire, England
Martha Atherton Daughter Single Female 6 1895 - Ashton under Lyne, Lancashire, England
Alfred Atherton Son Single Male 4 1897 - Ashton under Lyne, Lancashire, England
Charlotte Atherton Daughter Single Female 2 1899 - Ashton under Lyne, Lancashire, England

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 29 Jun 2019 15:49

Not sure where the 1922 birth came from

This is the one referred to by the OP

Births Dec 1920 (>99%)
Atherton Cyril Whitfield Barton I. 8c 1145

To find ACCURATE info about Samuel, you need his marriage cert, which will name his father (if known)

Maddie

Maddie Report 29 Jun 2019 16:03

the ashton samuel is not the one as the one on the 1939 with cyril

Name: Samuel Atherton
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 9 Aug 1892 -----------------
Baptism Date: 24 Mar 1893
Baptism Place: Christ Church, Ashton-under-Lyne, Lancashire, England
Father: James Atherton
Mother: Charlotte
FHL Film Number: 1737080

Rambling

Rambling Report 29 Jun 2019 16:18

Good that eliminates that one then.

As Erika says the only way to be sure of father of Samuel is to buy the marriage cert.

Alan you can order online at https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/menu.asp

Marriages Dec 1916 (>99%)
Atherton Samuel Whitfield Barton I. 8c 963
Whitfield Mary A Atherton Barton I. 8c 963

Skyflash

Skyflash Report 30 Jun 2019 09:09

Many Thanks to all for the info given :-)