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ERNEST HERBERT HERBERT

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ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 17 Jun 2019 20:34

Ancestry suggests this is his death - have you investigated this one?:

Ernest H Herbert
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: Ernest H Herbert
Death Age: 51
Birth Date: abt 1876
Registration Date: Oct 1927
[Nov 1927]
[Dec 1927]
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration district: Richmond
Inferred County: Surrey
Volume: 2a
Page: 617

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 17 Jun 2019 20:20

Beatrice Annie (widowed) in 1939 with 3 of her children, and another 3 closed records (on ancestry - maybe FMP will show more of them open:


Annie Herbert
in the 1939 England and Wales Register
Name: Annie Herbert
Gender: Female
Marital status: Widow
Birth Date: 3 May 1885
Residence Year: 1939
Address: 4 Wood St Leigh
Residence Place: Leigh, Lancashire, England
Occupation: Unpaid Domestic Duties
Schedule Number: 41
Sub Schedule Number: 1
Enumeration District: NVQA
Registration district: 460-2
Household Members:
Name
Annie Herbert
Charles F Herbert - 14 Nov 1909
Nora Herbert - 9 Nov 1913
Ernest Herbert - 26 Nov 1915

November was a busy month for birthdays in the Herbert family.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 17 Jun 2019 20:14

Death of Frank, also in Leigh:

Charles Franklyn Herbert
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: Charles Franklyn Herbert
Death Age: 79
Birth Date: 14 Nov 1909
Registration Date: Jan 1989
Registration district: Leigh
Inferred County: Greater Manchester
Volume: 39
Page: 2130

Philip

Philip Report 17 Jun 2019 20:14

They remained married and had other children in Leigh Lancashire but couldn't find a death for Ernest Herbert Herbert.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 17 Jun 2019 20:07

If he married Annie Bunce, that would mean he and Beatrice had separated;

??
Beatrice A Herbert
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: Beatrice A Herbert
Death Age: 70
Birth Date: abt 1884
Registration Date: Oct 1954
[Nov 1954]
[Dec 1954]
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration district: Leigh
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 10d
Page: 32

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 17 Jun 2019 19:55

Cecil's birth is posted above.
Here's his baptism:

Cecil Edward Herbert
in the England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
Name: Cecil Edward Herbert
Gender: Male
Baptism Date: 12 Jun 1906
Baptism Place: Frimley, Surrey, England
Father: Ernest Herbert
Mother: Beatrice Herbert
FHL Film Number: 2232875

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 17 Jun 2019 19:55

Did he marry Annie E. Bunce in 1912?


Marriages Jun 1912 (>99%)

BUNCE Annie E Herbert Edmonton 3a 968
Herbert Ernest H Bunce Edmonton 3a 968

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 17 Jun 2019 19:51

Son Frank, as in 1911 census ??

Charles Franklin Herbert
in the India, Select Births and Baptisms, 1786-1947
Name: Charles Franklin Herbert
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 14 Nov 1909
Baptism Date: 30 Nov 1909
Baptism Age: 0
Baptism Place: Lahore, Bengal, India
Father: Ernest Herbert
Mother: Annie ????????????????? [Beatrice Annie ]
FHL Film Number: 528127

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 17 Jun 2019 19:47

A son?


All Results
George Ernest Herbert Herbert

in the British Army WWI Service Records, 1914-1920
View British Army WWI Service Records, 1914-1920

View Packet Cover

Name: George Ernest Herbert Herbert
Birth Date: 21 Feb 1913
Birth Place: Wood Green
Document Year: 1917
Relationship to Soldier: Child
Form Title: Information Supplied By Recruit
Other Records:
Family Members:
Name Relation to Soldier
Ernest Herbert Self (Head)
Annie Elizabeth Bunce Spouse
George Ernest Herbert Herbert Child
Ernest Henry Herbert Child

Edit: Oops! Wrong wife.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 17 Jun 2019 19:45

He must have left the Army after he got married (1910-11-ish) , and then joined up again when war began. He had served in India for a while - see sons William and Frank's birthplace below:

Ernest Herbert
in the 1911 England Census
Name: Ernest Herbert
Age in 1911: 35
Estimated birth year: abt 1876
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Birkenhead, Cheshire, England
Civil Parish: Warrington
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address: 55 New Road Warrington
Marital status: Married
Occupation: Time Keeper [at iron foundry ]<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Registration district: Warrington
Registration District Number: 459
Sub-registration district: Warrington
ED, institution, or vessel: 42
Piece: 23172
Household Members:
Name Age
Ernest Herbert 35
Beatrice Herbert 27
Cecil Herbert 5
William Herbert 3 - born in India
Frank Herbert 1 - Lahore Puigaub, India


HERBERT, CECIL EDWARD mms WHITNALL
GRO Reference: 1906 J Quarter in FARNHAM Volume 02A Page 121


William Onslow Herbert
in the India, Select Births and Baptisms, 1786-1947
Name: William Onslow Herbert
Gender: Male
Race: White
Birth Date: 17 Jan 1908
Baptism Date: 2 Feb 1908
Baptism Age: 0
Baptism Place: Ranikhet, Bengal, India
Father: Ernest Herbert Herbert
Mother: Beatrice
FHL Film Number: 528115

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 17 Jun 2019 19:40

Ernest Herbert Herbert
in the UK, WWI Pension Ledgers and Index Cards, 1914-1923
View Original Image on Fold3.
Name: Ernest Herbert Herbert
Rank: CSM
Birth Date: 1878
Residence Place: Bournemouth
Military Service Region: South West, England
Discharge Date: 25 Mar 1919
Service Number: 6583
Regiment: S. Lancs
Title: Pension Record Cards
Description: Pension Record Ledger
Reference Number: 8/MH/8354
Next of Kin:
Name Relation to Soldier
Ernest Herbert Herbert

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 17 Jun 2019 19:40

Ernest Herbert Herbert
in the UK, WWI Service Medal and Award Rolls, 1914-1920
Name: Ernest Herbert Herbert
Military Year: 1914-1915
Rank: Sergeant
Medal Awarded: 1914-15 Star
Regiment or Corps: Prince of Wales's Volunteers (South Lancashire) Regiment
Regimental Number: 6583

Philip

Philip Report 17 Jun 2019 19:33

I have found Ernest Herbert Herbert getting married in Frimley Surrey to a Beatrice Annie Whitnall in 1906. Ernest states he is a Corporal in the South Lancs Regiment on the certificate. Any suggestions or help relating to his military career would be appreciated
Thanks
Phil