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Ellen
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6 Oct 2019 06:57 |
It has been awhile since I was last on this wonderful site. I found that James Sedgwick Stewart was born to James Stewart & Eleanor Margaret Fletcher 16th July 1906 Castle Street Brechin William Irons Stewart was born to Ann Stewart ( Illegitimate) 18th August 1910 at Bridge Street Brechin Alexander Milne Stewart was born 12th May 1911 to a Margaret Stewart ( Illegitimate)
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alviegal
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30 Jun 2019 18:11 |
Ah sorry Ag. I noticed a lot of different surnames being used for the children. Margaret had Mackenzie I think as did Ann?
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ArgyllGran
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30 Jun 2019 17:53 |
I risked a look at Alexander Milne Stewart - and he's not one of Mary's.
His mother was an unmarried Margaret Stewart.
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30 Jun 2019 17:22 |
So that narrows the possible Duncan deaths down to:
Margaret Johnston Duncan Nellie Mowat Duncan (though gut feeling says not) George Hetherington Duncan Archibald Buchan. . . Duncan
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ArgyllGran
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30 Jun 2019 13:55 |
As all Mary's children seem to have middle names, I'll assume any deceased ones did too.
So these are the possible Duncan deaths, 1891-1911.
DUNCAN [EDIT: No, I had a look at his birth - wrong parents.] DAVID HUTCHEON 0 1892 275/ 118 Brechin
DUNCAN ARCHIBALD BUCHA 1 1893 275/ 81 Brechin
DUNCAN GEORGE HETHERIN 0 1895 275/ 180 Brechin
DUNCAN (probably not this one, as Charles Thomas was born 1896 - though not impossible, depending on exactly when the births were. NELLIE MOWAT 0 1896 275/ 162 Brechin
DUNCAN [ Born 1890 - so too early ] DAVID MACRAE 7 1898 275/ 102 Brechin
DUNCAN MARGARET JOHNTO [mis-spelling of Johnston ] 0 1904 275/ 86 Brechin
DUNCAN [EDIT: No, she was born in Logie Pert, not Brechin ] MARY MOIR 4 1907 275/ 92 Brechin
DUNCAN [EDIT: Not this one - he was born in Kincardineshire.] JOSEPH ROBB 7 1909 275/ 20 Brechin
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ArgyllGran
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30 Jun 2019 13:34 |
I agree with Alviegal about Mary Fenton, Ellen. She's not your Mary's daughter.
Unfortunately Mary Fenton's birth cert wouldn't help prove it either way, as it would only say "mother Mary Duncan, unmarried" or words to that effect.
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30 Jun 2019 11:46 |
My money's on the last one AG seeing he has Milne as a middle name. That was Mary Ann's middle name on her MC.
Looking up an Isabella Fenton in Brechin, I came across this one.
1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census
44, Montrose Street, Brechin, Forfarshire (Angus), Scotland
James Fenton Head Married Male 28 1853 Slater Brechin, Forfarshire (Angus), Scotland >>Isabella Fenton Wife Married Female 30 1851 - Huntly, Aberdeenshire, Scotland >>>Mary Duncan Step Daughter - Female 7 1874 Scholar Brechin, Forfarshire (Angus), Scotland John Fenton Son - Male 2 1879 - Brechin, Forfarshire (Angus), Scotland James Fenton Son - Male 1 1880 - Brechin, Forfarshire (Angus), Scotland Peter D Fenton Son - Male 0 1881 - Brechin, Forfarshire (Angus), Scotland
I think this Mary Duncan is the mother of Mary Fenton Duncan. The 1881 I posted above has Simona Duncan in it as has the 1901 posted so I would think that is the correct family for the poster's Mary Ann Duncan.
1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Montrose Street, Brechin, Forfarshire (Angus), Scotland
James Fenton Head Married Male 38 1853 Slater Forfarshire (Angus), Scotland >>Isabella Fenton Wife Married Female 40 1851 Slaters Wife Aberdeenshire, Scotland >>Mary Duncan Fenton Step Daughter Unmarried Female 17 1874 Steam Loom Linen Weaver Forfarshire (Angus), Scotland John Fenton Son - Male 12 1879 Stationers Message Boy Forfarshire (Angus), Scotland James Fenton Son - Male 11 1880 Scholar Forfarshire (Angus), Scotland Peter Fenton Son - Male 10 1881 Scholar Forfarshire (Angus), Scotland Isabella Fenton Daughter - Female 6 1885 Scholar Forfarshire (Angus), Scotland Jessie Fenton Daughter - Female 4 1887 Scholar Forfarshire (Angus), Scotland
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ArgyllGran
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30 Jun 2019 09:24 |
Scotlands People is working properly again this morning, thank goodness.
These are the only Stewart children born 1904-1911, who died in Brechin 1904-1911 - have you checked them all out?
STEWART JAMES SEDGWICK 0 1906 275/ 106 Brechin
STEWART WILLIAM IRONS 0 1910 275/ 133 Brechin
STEWART ALEXANDER MILNE 0 1911 275/ 87 Brechin
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Ellen
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30 Jun 2019 01:23 |
Just found another Illegitimate child for Mary Ann Duncan born 1875 Mary Fenton Duncan born 13/4/1904 died 18/4/1904, eight months before she married David Stewart, strangest thing is Isabella Fenton the childs grandmother was the informant 1911 census says that David & Mary had 6 children 2 have died I have to now find who the other child is. Maybe between Charles Thomas Duncan born 1896 & Mary Fenton born 1904 or after she married David Stewart 1904 before David Duncan Stewarts birth in 1908?
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alviegal
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29 Jun 2019 19:45 |
How frustrating!! I keep getting No results to all my searches.
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ArgyllGran
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29 Jun 2019 19:38 |
Aagh! I can't look anything up on SP - all afternoon it's been saying that "the website had encountered an unexpected error" .
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alviegal
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29 Jun 2019 18:53 |
So this is Mary Ann with her family.
1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census
17, Middlegate Street, Kirkden, Kirkden Parish, Forfarshire (Angus), Scotland
James Duncan Head Married Male 31 1850 Labourer Forfarshire (Angus), Scotland Margaret Duncan Wife Married Female 27 1854 - Forfarshire (Angus), Scotland Margaret Duncan Daughter - Female 8 1873 Scholar Forfarshire (Angus), Scotland >>Mary Duncan Daughter - Female 6 1875 Scholar Forfarshire (Angus), Scotland Ann Duncan Daughter - Female 4 1877 - Forfarshire (Angus), Scotland Simona Duncan Daughter - Female 2 1879 - Forfarshire (Angus), Scotland William Duncan Son - Male 0 1881 - Forfarshire (Angus), Scotland
1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census
River Street, Brechin, Forfarshire (Angus), Scotland
Margaret Duncan Head Widow Female 36 1855 - Forfarshire (Angus), Scotland Margaret Duncan Daughter Unmarried Female 18 1873 Linen Weaver Forfarshire (Angus), Scotland >>Maryann Duncan Daughter Unmarried Female 16 1875 Linen Weaver Forfarshire (Angus), Scotland Annie Duncan Daughter - Female 14 1877 Millworker (Reeler) Forfarshire (Angus), Scotland Simona Duncan Daughter - Female 12 1879 Millworker (Reeler) Forfarshire (Angus), Scotland William Duncan Son - Male 10 1881 Scholar Forfarshire (Angus), Scotland Lizzie Duncan Daughter - Female 8 1883 Scholar Forfarshire (Angus), Scotland Steward Duncan Son - Male 4 1887 - Forfarshire (Angus), Scotland David Duncan Son - Male 2 1889 - Forfarshire (Angus), Scotland
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Ellen
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28 Jun 2019 15:42 |
An update on my research Mary Ann Duncan married David Stewart 30/12/1904. Their children were David Duncan Stewart born 30/3/1908 & Alexander Duncan Stewart born 7/10/1910
Mary Ann Duncan had 2 illegitimate sons James Crocket Gibson Duncan born 13/6/1894 Charles Thomson Duncan born 9/2/1896.
1911 Census states they had 6 children 2 died ,this must have been between 1904 (their marriage ) & David Duncan Stewarts birth in 1908 impossible to know who they were as to many on Scotlands People
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Ellen
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12 Jun 2019 13:32 |
I have just found out the father was indeed David born abt 1876, Thanks everyone I am so grateful for all of your help I could not have done it myself Ellen
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Dea
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12 Jun 2019 13:11 |
David Duncan Stewart was born on 30th March 1908 at 99 River St., Brechin to David Stewart (General Labourer) and Mary Ann Stewart (maiden name Duncan). They were apparently married in 1904 on 30th December in Brechin. (That is what it says on David's 1908 birth registration).
Dea x
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12 Jun 2019 12:33 |
James listed as tenant occupier at same address in 1914:
JAMES STEWART Tenant Occupier HOUSE 12B CITY ROAD BRECHIN 1914 -------------------------
Dundee Courier - Monday 21 September 1914
BRECHIN The following members of the Nation Reserve (class II), enlisted in 5th Black Watch have left Brechin to take up their duty:-....James Stewart 12b City Road
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ArgyllGran
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12 Jun 2019 12:23 |
Looks like the children James and Charles in 1901:
James Duncan in the 1901 Scotland Census Name: James Duncan Age: 6 Estimated birth year: abt 1895 Relationship: Grandson Gender: Male Where born: Brechin, Forfarshire Registration Number: 275 Registration district: Brechin Civil Parish: Brechin Town: Brechin County: Angus Address: 13 Bridge St Occupation: Scholar ED: 8 Household schedule number: 82 Line: 12 Roll: CSSCT1901_88 Household Members: Name Age Margaret Duncan 46 Simona Duncan 22 - daughter Lizzie Duncan 18 - daughter David Duncan 11 - son Ina Duncan 8 - daughter James Duncan 6 - grandson Charles S Duncan 5 - grandson Christina Weston 9mo - grand-daughter
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ArgyllGran
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12 Jun 2019 12:14 |
Maybe possibly David's death - I don't know what the second middle name is - you'd have to buy a copy of the cert to see that, unfortunately.
STEWART DAVID DUNCAN RA. . . . . . 68 mms DUNCAN 1975 367/ 143 Montrose
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Dea
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12 Jun 2019 12:06 |
Had a few credits on that site so took a look but I don't know how to get a transcription ??
This is what it shows but I can't quite read all the birthplaces - all the children are Brechin - Mary A is Forfar ? and David looks like Lei?? somewhere in Forfarth??
1911: 12 b. City Rd., Brechin David Stewart Head 35 surfaceman on Railway Mary Ann Stewart wife 37 mar. 7 yrs. 6 children born, 4 still alive. James Duncan son 17 Bleacher at Bleachfield Charles Duncan son 16 Bobbin Whipper? at Spinning Mill David Stewart son 4 Alexander Stewart son 6 months
I will try to save the image to keepsakes later and post you the link.
Hope this helps,
Dea x
Well, You ALL beat me to it but that's 'coz I don't know how to work that silly site !!!! ;-) :-D :-D <3
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ArgyllGran
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12 Jun 2019 11:58 |
Possible marriage ?? Note Mary Ann's maiden surname.
STEWART DAVID DUNCAN MARY ANN MILNE 1905 275/ 2 Brechin
When you say "husband unknown", do you mean that no father is named on the children's birth certs, or just that you personally don't know his name?
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