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Looking for a needle in a haystack, but can't hurt to ask.

If anyone has access to parish records in Ireland could you please look for these two sisters.

Trying to find baptisms for Bridget (c1828) & Catherine (c1819) Noon. Father John.

Born Ireland but no idea of area.

I have found them on the 1851 census, but not on 1841, so possibly came over to England during the famine.

1851 census for reference....
Name: Catherine Roach
[Catherine Noon]
Age: 32
Estimated birth year: abt 1819
Relation: Head
Father's name: John Noon
Gender: Female
Where born: Ireland
Civil Parish: Manchester
Ecclesiastical parish: St Michaels
Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps:
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Town: Manchester
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address: 9 Pleasant Place

Occupation: Small wares dealer

Condition as to marriage: Widow

Registration district: Manchester
Sub-registration district: St George
ED, institution, or vessel: 1cc
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 124
Piece: 2230
Folio: 544
Page Number: 43
Household Members:
Name Age
Catherine Roach 32
Mary Roach 9
Bridget Roach 7
John Roach 3
Bridget Noon 23....small wares dealer
John Noon 77....formerly farmer...Pauper

All born in Ireland.

Just a possibility - no idea if this is the correct family - very common names:

Bridgida Noon
in the Ireland, Catholic Parish Registers, 1655-1915
Name: Bridgida Noon
Baptism Age: 0
Event Type: Baptism
Birth Date: 1827
Baptism Date: 22 Jan 1827
Baptism Place: Killian, Galway, Ireland
Parish Variants: Ballygar, Killeroran, Killian and Kilronan, Kilronan, Newbridge
Diocese: Elphin
Father: Joannes Noon
Mother: Catherina Gavin


There's absolutely no reason to think this is a relevant record, and I can't find anything for Catherine.

Nor any marriage in Ireland or England for Catherine to a Roach.

The family presumably went to England between 1848 and 1851, as all the Roach children were born in Ireland.

Can't see the Roach children's births/baptisms, either.

Thank you ArgyllGran

Is this the family in 1861- older children with different surname?

1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census

Freeths Yard, 6, High Street, Walsall, Staffordshire, England

Catherine Roach Head Widow Female 50 1811 Laundry Woman Ireland
Mary Kneafsey Daughter Unmarried Female 20 1841 House Servant Ireland
Bridget Kneafsey Daughter Unmarried Female 18 1843 House Servant Ireland
John Roach Son Unmarried Male 12 1849 Scholar Ireland
Julia Roach Daughter Unmarried Female 5 1856 Scholar Walsall, Staffordshire,
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Birth:
ROACH, JULIA (mother's maiden name: NOON)
GRO Reference: 1856 D Quarter in WALSALL Volume 06B Page 491

Posting just in case:

Found one possible marriage after all - but just another stab in the dark, I'm afraid.


Area - DUBLIN (RC) , Parish/Church/Congregation - ST. MARY, PRO CATHEDRAL
Marriage of PATK ROACH of N/R and CATHARINE BUTARIDGE of N/R on 9 August 1840
Husband Wife
Name PATK ROACH CATHARINE BUTARIDGE
Address N/R N/R
Occupation N/R N/R
Father N/R N/R
Mother N/R N/R
Further details in the record
Witness 1 JOHN HICKEY
Witness 2 CATHE ROACH

Surely we're looking for a marriage between Catherine Noon and Mr Kneafsey, and a later marriage after 1843/44 to a Mr Roach

This is possibly the baptism of Catherine's son John?:

Name: John Roach (also Sara Roach baptised same day)
Baptism Age: 0
Event Type: Baptism
Birth Date: 1848
Baptism Date: 25 Jun 1848
Baptism Place: Swineford, Mayo, Ireland
Parish Variants: Kilconduff, Kilconduff and Meelick, Meelick, Meelick and Kilconduff, Swinford
Diocese: Achonry
Father: Pat Roach
Mother: Kitty Roach

Sponsors: John Noon & Biddy Noon

Name: Patrick Roach
Date of Registration: 1870
Registration district: Swineford, Ireland
Volume: 4
Page Number: 674
FHL Film Number: 101251
Records on Page:
Name
Peter Mulligan
Mary Hughes
James Horkan
Patrick Roach
Catherine Henry
Catherine Henry
Anne Durkan
Owen Moran
Catherine Neafsy -------

but too late

Think this is her second marriage:

Name Cathe. Noon
Gender Female
Event Type Marriage
Marriage Date Jan 1845
Marriage Place Swineford, Ireland, Ireland
Parish Variants Kilconduff, Kilconduff and Meelick, Meelick, Meelick and Kilconduff, Swinford
Diocese Achonry
Spouse Patt Roach

Re above marriage...

26 Jan 1845.
Witnesses' John Henry and Honor Divine
Townland looks to be Castleheenaghan…

cross ref. with Townland shows Kneafsy/Neafsy surnames

Oh wow.

AustinQ I hadn't seen the 1861 census and the baptism and marriage are really great finds. Now I have an area to work on. Many thanks.

ArgyllGran, thank you for the Dublin marriage and other info. It's more than I could find.

Maddie, thank you for the marriage it does seem such a coincidence.

Eringobragh, thank you for the additional marriage info and pinpointing the town.

Thank you all so much. Honestly chuffed to bits!!

Christina,if the marriage found by AQ is the correct one - and it certainly looks as if it is - you can disregard what I found. Wrong part of the country!

This looks like Catherine's daughter, Bridget:

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/196696393/bridget-jennings

So much info on that memorial. Thanks again AustinQ. Brilliant!