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Thank you all for the above, the newspaper item was especially interesting.

This man's details have been scored through. The name may be Morton - it's hard to read.
Can this be Arthur Ernest ??


Arthur E Morten
Canada Passenger Lists
Name Arthur E Morten
Event Type Immigration
Event Date Sep 1917
Event Place Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada
Gender Female
Ship Name Carmania

He was on a Nominal Roll of Men to be Discharged in Canada: Party of Medically Unfits sailing from Liverpool on strength of CCAC. [ Canadian Casualty Assembly Centre ]

Rank: Sgt
Number: might be 71126
Reason for Discharge: Section 25.
Residence: Winnipeg.
Occupation: Machinist.


EDIT -
but there's at least one other Arthur Morton from Winnipeg in the army.

So the first son Arthur (4th qr 1909 Middlesborough) must have died in Canada, in 1911 or 1912, and then Arthur Cecil was born in Canada and named after his brother.

The first Arthur is with his family on the 1911 Canada census, and the second on the 1916 census - both posted on page 1.

ADDED:

Arthur Morton
in the Web: Manitoba, Death Index, 1871-1947
Name: Arthur Morton
Age: 2
Birth Date: abt 1909
Death Date: 4 Nov 1911
Death Place: Wpg, Manitoba, Canada


Arthur Morton
in the Canada, Find A Grave Index, 1600s-Current
Name: Arthur Morton
Death Date: 4 Nov 1911
Cemetery: Brookside Cemetery
Burial or Cremation Place: Winnipeg, Greater Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
Has Bio?: N

A nice article mentioning the Morton boys here (Also has photo of Harold):

Buxton Advertiser - Friday 09 November 1951

Peakland Bandsmen: Mr Harold Morton

WHEN BROWN EDGE HAD ITS OWN BRASS BAND

M'EMBER of Buxton British Legion Band, Mr. Harold Morton, of 144, Brown Edge Road, began his musical career in a rather unusual way. He started in 1932 at the age 17 when a dozen interested Brown Edge men got together and decided to form a Brown Edge Band. They bought second-hand instruments on the hire purchase system as many a struggling band has had to do. When the instruments arrived they were laid out in the Morton's family garage and all made their choice.
Unfortunately young Harold was not there at the time and when he arrived all that was left was a bass trombone.
Couched by Mr F Harris, a musician well known locally, Harold persevered and the band, conducted by the late J T Davies prospered. In the summer they rehearsed in the garden and in the winter in the garage.
In the band were the four brothers of the Morton family, with Arthur on tenor horn, Roy cornet, Tommy cornet and, of course, Harold bass trombone.
With the coming of hard times in Buxton some members lost their jobs, money was short, the installments not paid, and the firm took the instruments back.
The Morton brothers joined Buxton Borough Band, which was also at that time in a precarious position. When the band broke up at the outset of war Mr. Morton and bandmaster Mr. Arthur Slack joined the Home Guard Band. Recalling his service with the Home Guard Band, Mr. Morton says that when the band had an engagement the motor coach used to pick him up at Brook House comer. One fateful -summer’s day the coach lor Chinjgy came an hour earlier than he expected. In full uniform and under a blazing sun, he hitch-hiked to Chapel, then walked to Chinley and then attempted to find Bux worth. He finally staggered on to the field just in time to join in playing the last march. While playing for the Home Guard Band Mr. Morton also helped train ’teen-age players in the former Buxton Sea Cadets’ Band. He played in the band itself on public occasions. was fitted out with a uniform and became “The oldest Sea Cadet in Buxton.’* After the war Mr. Morton moved to Falmouth for two years and played with Falmouth Town Band. On his return to Buxton he joined the British Legion Band, for whom he plays the double bass and bass trombone. A regular attender at rehearsals ("They send out a search party if I don’t turn up"), Mr. Morton is aged 38. and as a change from blowing an instrument likes to play the piano accordian.

deaths:

First name(s) LOUISA
Last name MORTON
Birth year 1875
Death year 1957
Age 82
Place Buxton
County Derbyshire
Country England
Register entry BD/G1-10/047
Register office High Peak
Record set Derbyshire Registrars Death Index

First name(s) ARTHUR ERNEST
Last name MORTON
Birth year 1871
Death year 1921
Age 50
Place Buxton
County Derbyshire
Country England
Register entry -
Register office 395
Record set Derbyshire Registrars Death Index

1939 register:

144 Brown Edge, Buxton M.B., Derbyshire, England

Louisa Morton 14 Aug 1874 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Widowed
Arthur Morton 02 Jun 1912 Male Weigh Clerk Single
The record for this person is officially closed.
The record for this person is officially closed.
------------------------------

Death of this Arthur:
First name(s) ARTHUR CECIL
Last name MORTON
Gender Male
Birth 2 June 1912
Death quarter 2
Death year 1972
District Chapel En Le Frith
County Derbyshire
Volume 10A Page 1786/S
Country England

Commonwealth War Graves Commission Debt Of Honour

name(s) Thomas Morton
Birth year 1920
Age 22
Death year 1942
Death date 24 Jul 1942
Number 4461965
Rank Private
Unit 11th Bn.
Regiment Durham Light Infantry
Grave reference Grave 3334.
Cemetery or Memorial Buxton Cemetery
Burial country United Kingdom
Additional information Son of A. E. Morton and Louisa Morton, of Buxton.
Link
https://www.cwgc.org/find/find-war-dead
War Second World War, 1939-1945

If you look at the immigration record, as I advised, you will see that Arthur was to be deported

Margaret, thank you also, seem to have missed you out.

Just logged back on. Thank you so much. So they did all come back to England, brill.

Deaths Sep 1957 (>99%)
MORTON Louisa 82 Chapel-le-F. 10a 667


???
Deaths Jun 1921 (>99%)
Morton Arthur E 50 Chapel-le-F. 7b 737

There's only the one Morton/Byers marriage 1900-1939, so can't be a coincidence.

This must be Roy's death, with DOB a year out:

Roy Gordon Morton
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: Roy Gordon Morton
Death Age: 59
Birth Date: 14 Dec 1919
Registration Date: Jul 1979
[Aug 1979]
[Sep 1979]
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration district: Stoke on Trent
Inferred County: Staffordshire
Volume: 30
Page: 1485

I don't see him in 1939.

Hello, as a reminder, Roy Gordon Morton born Dec q 1918 at Chapel en le Frith (Derbyshire) maiden name Byers and a Thomas, March q 1920 maiden name Byers. This would make Louisa 45 ish when Thomas was born. Now wondering if names are just a coincidence. Thanks for the above.

To save confusion:

Harold in Derbyshire in 1939 is NOT this Harold with same DOB:

Births Sep 1914 (>99%)
Morton Harold H Dent Aston 6d 1141

That one's in Essex in 1939:

Harold H Morton
in the 1939 England and Wales Register
Name: Harold H Morton
Gender: Male
Marital status: Single
Birth Date: 14 Jun 1914
Residence Year: 1939
Address: 142
Residence Place: Ilford, Essex, England
Occupation: Heavy Lorry Driver
Schedule Number: 105
Sub Schedule Number: 3
Enumeration District: CCXO
Registration district: 191-2
Household Members:
Name
Fred Taylor
Gladys M Taylor
Harold H Morton

Re Louisa's son Harold, born 4/07/1915 per Maddie's post -

??? I don't see a birth in England for this Harold below, so he may be Louisa's son, with DOB a year out:


Harold Morton
in the 1939 England and Wales Register
Name: Harold Morton
Gender: Male
Marital status: Married
Birth Date: 4 Jul 1914 <<<<<<<<<<<<<
Residence Year: 1939
Address: 8 Brown Edge
Residence Place: Buxton, Derbyshire, England
Occupation: Minestone Quarrying (Filler) Above Ground (H W
Schedule Number: 122
Sub Schedule Number: 4
Enumeration District: RBFD
Registration district: 440-1
Household Members:
Name
Susan E Mock
Phyllis Smeeds
Joan Morton - 2 Dec 1918
Harold Morton



Marriages Dec 1938 (>99%)
Mock Joan W Morton Chapel-le-F. 7b 2219
Morton Harold Mock Chapel-le-F. 7b 2219

There are births of two Morton/Mock daughters, one in Chapel-le-Frith in 1939, and one in Falmouth in 1951.


On the 1939 register, Joan's surname was changed to Rodger - change noted 27/9/55 GLW.

Marriages Mar 1953 (>99%)
MOCK Joan W RODGER Falmouth 7a 73
MORTON Joan W RODGER Falmouth 7a 73
Rodger James Morton Falmouth 7a 73
Rodger James Mock Falmouth 7a 73


Joan Winifred Rodger
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: Joan Winifred Rodger
Death Age: 72
Birth Date: 2 Dec 1918
Registration Date: May 1991
Registration district: Truro
Inferred County: Cornwall
Volume: 21
Page: 594


???
James Rodger
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: James Rodger
Death Age: 63
Birth Date: 5 Aug 1927
Registration Date: Oct 1990
Registration district: St Austell
Inferred County: Cornwall
Volume: 21
Page: 434



Harold Morton
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: Harold Morton
Death Age: 64
Birth Date: 4 Jul 1914
Registration Date: Apr 1979
[May 1979]
[Jun 1979]
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Registration district: High Peak
Inferred County: Derbyshire
Volume: 6
Page: 1016

Unfortunately, I don't have the marriage certificate. I don't know anything about him. I am now assuming he stayed in Canada and Louisa probably went back there after her visit home.

The birth record that I posted for Harold in Winnipeg was from this site:

https://vitalstats.gov.mb.ca/Query.php

Sorry, I should have noted that when I posted.

Maddie posted 1939 for Arthur E Morton, widowed, gas clerk, born August 1873 .

[ There's no child Arthur with that man in 1939 - did you mean that there was, Maddie ? ]

His birth:

Births Sep 1873 (>99%)
Morton Arthur Ernest Halifax 9a 480



So this looks like him in 1911 :

in the 1911 England Census
Name: Arthur Ernest Morton
Age in 1911: 37
Estimated birth year: abt 1874
Relation to Head: Son
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Halifax, Yorkshire, England <<<<<<<<<<
Civil Parish: Hunslet
County/Island: Yorkshire-West Riding
Country: England
Street address: 42 Moor Croscent Hunslet Leeds
Marital status: Single
Occupation: Mechanical Draughtsman
Registration district: Hunslet
Registration District Number: 501
Sub-registration district: Hunslet
ED, institution, or vessel: 27
Piece: 27144
Household Members:
Name Age
Emily Morton 58
Arthur Ernest Morton 37

Therefore not Louisa's husband, who is in Canada in 1911.

Do you have Louisa's marriage cert to see what her husband's father's name was - to try to track down her husband's birth ? Or do you know his birth date?

Thanks Argyl, bit of a long shot that it would be a relative. I don't have the above in my tree anywhere.

George Henry Milburn
in the 1911 England Census
Name: George Henry Milburn
Age in 1911: 34
Estimated birth year: abt 1877
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Middlesbro, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Middlesbrough
County/Island: Yorkshire-North Riding
Country: England
Street address: 21 Haddon St Middlesbro <<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Marital status: Married
Occupation: French Polisher
Registration district: Middlesbrough
Registration District Number: 535
Sub-registration district: Middlesbrough East
ED, institution, or vessel: 19
Piece: 29257
Household Members:
Name Age
George Henry Milburn 34
Alice Grace Milburn 34
Marjorie Milburn 5



Marriages Sep 1902 (>99%)
Milburn George Henry Middlesbro' 9d 907
Richardson Alice Grace Middlesbro' 9d 907



By 1915 the Milburns had moved to Kildare Street:

Alice Grace Richardson
in the British Army WWI Service Records, 1914-1920
Name: Alice Grace Richardson
Gender: Female
Marriage Date: 19 Aug 1902
Marriage Place: Middlesbro
Document Year: 1915
Residence Place: 37 Kildare St, Middlesbro <<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Relationship to Soldier: Spouse
Form Title: Descriptive Report Enlistment
Other Records:
Family Members:
Name Relation to Soldier
George Henry Milburn Self (Head)
Alice Grace Richardson Spouse
Marjorie Milburn Child