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Victoria, just so you know for the future it's safer not to put an exact date of birth ( for protection against identity theft and privacy reasons) unless you know the person has died. This is an open site and anything one posts can in theory be found via Google.

it looks likely that the Kathleen found by AustinQ might be the one, so buying her death cert might confirm that the DOB matches?

Good luck :-)

Hello,

Apologies if I have been incorrect in my asking of question I’m not sure on etiquette of this and Thank you all for your input, it’s more to decipher.
I was unaware of the 1939 register so that was something new to look at.
It’s a real learning curve, and I’m hoping to find more information on Kathleen and any children she might of had.
But I do appreciate all your help Shirley, AustinQ, Rambling,EricaH and Argyllgran.
So thank you very much :-)

May be this is the Kathleen that Victoria is looking for- DOB on 1939 register is unclear- although looks like August?

Marriages Mar 1952
HOLMES Sidney D JONES Ealing 5e 13
Jones Kathleen C Holmes Ealing 5e 13
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1939 register:
10 Acacia Avenue, Heston and Isleworth M.B., Middlesex, England

William H Jones 20 Aug 1905 General Labourer
Ellen Jones 10 Sept 1905 Home duties
Kathleen Holmes (Jones) aug? 1926 at school
Closed Record
Closed Record
Dorothy Hardman (Jones) 16 April 1932 at school
Closed Record
Closed Record
Closed Record
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Death:
First name(s) KATHLEEN C
Last name HOLMES
Gender Female
Birth year 1927
Age 25
Death quarter 2
Death year 1952
District Surrey North Eastern
County Surrey
Volume 5G Page 445
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Burial (other Homes family registered at same grave)

Name: Kathleen Clara Holmes
Age: 26
Birth Date: abt 1926
Death Date: abt 1952
Burial Date: 30 Jun 1952
Burial Place: Ealing, Greater London, England
Cemetery: Ealing & Old Brentford Cemetery
Cemetery Section: Ground P Division
Grave number: 3. M
Interment Number: 789
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Notice in paper from parents:

Kensington Post - Friday 11 July 1952
JONES. Mr. and Mrs. Jones, of 10. Acacia Avenue. Brentford. wish to thank relatives, friends and neighbours for the sympathy and floral tributes sent in their recent sad bereavement
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Birth of sister:
Births Jun 1932
Jones Dorothy M Ball Brentford 3a 225
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Marriage of sister:
Marriages Dec 1952
HARDMAN Thomas G JONES Ealing 5e 298
JONES Dorothy M HARDMAN Ealing 5e 298

Possibly the same lady Rose. My post was to cast doubt over the marriages being for the Kathleen born 1926- as the obit gives her date of birth as 1932.

The son and grandaughter on the obit are from her first marriage.

I daren't give anymore information in case the GR police jump on my back

Not entirely sure on that One AustinQ ? as there as this mention of a Kathleen who was 70 in 2002,

https://www.kentonline.co.uk/deal/news/deal-dip-a68619/

Think this could be the Kathleen for those marriages. Easy to follow as unusual name of grandaughter.

Obit:

http://www.kmannouncements.co.uk/group/view/310399/kathleen-gisby

Info for the Garlinge man

Name: Walter John R Garlinge
Death Age: 61
Birth Date: 10 Jun 1930
Registration Date: Jun 1991
Registration district: Dover
Inferred County: Kent
Volume: 16
Page: 1074

1939
Name: Walter J R Garlinge
Gender: Male
Marital status: Single
Birth Date: 10 Jun 1930
Residence Year: 1939
Address: 4
Residence Place: Deal, Kent, England
Occupation: at School
Schedule Number: 157
Sub Schedule Number: 3
Enumeration District: DHIY
Registration district: 64/4
Inferred Father: Arthur H Garlinge
Inferred Mother: Ethel E Garlinge
Household Members:
Name
Arthur H Garlinge
Ethel E Garlinge
Walter J R Garlinge

Ah there is a possiblity that the marriage which took place same time as Kathleen's 1977 is that of her daughter.

In which case I will PM some info and may be worth trying to contact?

for ref this is the 2nd marriage

GARLINGE KATHLEEN C GISBY DOVER 16 651
GISBY EDWARD F M GARLINGE DOVER 16 651
GISBY EDWARD F M GISBY DOVER 16 651
GISBY KATHLEEN C GISBY DOVER 16 651


Edward F M is deceased

there is another Gisby/Garlinge marriage same date, at least one of that couple ( see freebmd.org.uk) is still on eroll.

HOWEVER may not be yours as there are potential children, which there wouldn't be for someone born 1926

edit children probably belong to a couple with same surnames married 1960s.

The Kathleen who married Garlinge remarried in 1977 to Gisby , was on erolls to 2010

Possible birth of Ellen:

Births Dec 1904 (>99%)
Ball Ellen Strood 2a 659

But still don't see her in 1939.

Thank you Austin, for deleting - no need to be offensive.

Just admit you made a mistake

I see the possible marrige on freebmd and presume you think it could be her as it's still kent

You would have to take the chance and get the cert to see her age and fathers name on the cert to see if it the one you are looking for

Have you found actual birth dates for the parents

Not seeing them on the 1939 register or picking up deaths that could be them

Kathleen could be the informant on one of the death certs

Victoria

Unfortunately, you've actually given all the info needed for identity theft.

It is unwise to post such info if there is any possibility that the person may be living.

Why post the birth info?

The DOB is in the OP

Unnecessary - and inconsiderate - to highlight the circumstances of her birth

Deleted. :-P

Helps to pinpoint an area

William Henry Jones
Registration Date: Oct 1926
[Nov 1926]
[Dec 1926]
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration district: Strood
Inferred County: Kent
Spouse: Ellen Ball
Volume Number: 2a
Page Number: 1552

Have you found them on the 1939 register