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13 May 2019 12:55 |
I would suggest that the 1841 found by safc where Thomas is a butcher, is Thomas and Elizabeth Foss.
BICKLEY, HANNAH ELIZABETH FOSS GRO Reference: 1837 S Quarter in TOTNES UNION Volume 09 Page 326
BICKLEY, GEORGE BICKLEY FOSS GRO Reference: 1840 S Quarter in STRAND UNION Volume 01 Page 339
YOUR Thomas and Elizabeth did have a son, George, but not until after the 1841 census.
BICKLEY, GEORGE POTTER GRO Reference: 1842 S Quarter in PLYMOUTH Volume 09 Page 374
and possibly, his death. This one lived in William Lane which is where YOUR family are in 1851.
BICKLEY, GEORGE 1 GRO Reference: 1843 D Quarter in PLYMOUTH Volume 09 Page 241
EDIT When I say YOUR family, I mean the family you are interested in.
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13 May 2019 12:33 |
Thanks for everyones help.Cheers
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13 May 2019 12:29 |
Kerri
You are trying to tie in to ancestry DNA matches, but they had a number of children & you'd need to follow them all and their descendants to see where the connection lies.
Have you tried uploading your ancestry DNA to other sites (eg ftdna or my heritage) both of these accept uploads, and sometimes come up with more matches than ancestry.
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13 May 2019 12:26 |
National archives may also confirm marine - there is this & another couple of records which when you look at the info confirms it as a list of marines.
ADM 158/36/41/29 Description: Name: Thomas Bickley.
Age: 14 years.
Place of birth: St Andrews, Plymouth, Devon.
Date: [1787-1838] Held by: The National Archives, Kew Legal status: Public Record Closure status: Open Document, Open Description
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13 May 2019 12:09 |
Baptism entry While we have made all efforts to correctly record the information in the original document there may be different interpretations of the written words. If you have access to the original document and believe we have made a mistake you are encouraged to report this to us. Report an Error in this Data Field (only fields with a value are shown) Value County Somerset Place Bath Church name St Michael Register type Transcript Baptism date 31 Aug 1832 Person forename Ellen Person sex F Father forename Thomas Mother forename Elisabeth Father surname BICKLEY Person abode 14 Lady Mead Father occupation A Marine Transcribed by David Hartley Credit Carol Mitchell Fiona Tregoiing Sarah Hartland File line number 8038
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13 May 2019 12:05 |
Ellen's christening, on the image it gives either Marine or Marrner as Thomas's occupation at the time - can't quite make out which.
Ellen Bickley Baptism Date: 31 Aug 1832 Baptism Place: Bath, St Michael, Somerset, England Parish as it Appears: Bath, St Michael Search Photos: Search for 'Bath, St Michael' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Map: View this parish Father: Thomas Bickley Mother: Elisabeth Bickley
Looks like Abby has confirmed mariner!
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13 May 2019 12:03 |
Record Transcription: Devon Baptisms
Location: Devon, England
First name(s) Thomas Last name Bickley Birth year 1839 Birth date 08 Mar 1839 Baptism year 1847 Baptism date 08 Dec 1847 Denomination Anglican Place Plymouth, St Andrew Father's first name(s) Thomas Mother's first name(s) Elizabeth Mother's last name - County Devon Country England Archive reference 358/14/b Archive event Baptism registers Page 332 Archive Plymouth & West Devon Record Office Record set Devon Baptisms Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Subcategory Parish Baptisms Collections from England, Great
thomas is a mariner
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13 May 2019 11:51 |
1881 census shows Elizabeth is a widow: Thomas Bickley Age: 42 Estimated birth year: abt 1839 Relationship to Head: Head Spouse: Elizabeth Bickley Gender: Male Where born: Plymouth, Devon, England Civil Parish: Plymouth St Andrew County/Island: Devon Country: England Street address: 4 Claremont Cotts Marital status: Married Education:
Employment status:
View image Occupation: French Polisher Registration district: Plymouth ED, institution, or vessel: 8 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 2197 Folio: 19 Page Number: 31 Household Members: Name Age Thomas Bickley 42 Elizabeth Bickley 42 Thomas A. Bickley 15 Ellen J. Bickley 13 William J.M. Bickley 11 Mary A. Bickley 8 Edith E. Bickley 6 Frederick P. Bickley 4 Elizabeth Bickley 76 Save Cancel
Added, she was still with son Thomas on 1891 census.
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13 May 2019 11:26 |
1861 from FMP - obviously BRickley isn't a recognised variant !!
1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Robins Cottages, 2, William Lane, St Andrew, Plymouth, Devon, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Thomas Brickley Head Married Male 54 1807 Greenwich Pensioner Labourer Mason Plymouth, Devon, England Elizabeth Brickley Wife Married Female 57 1804 Laundress... Falmouth, Cornwall, England Helen Brickley Daughter Unmarried Female 29 1832 - Bath, Somerset, England Thomas Brickley Son Unmarried Male 22 1839 Cabinet Maker And Polisher Apprentice Plymouth, Devon, England Mary Ann Brickley Daughter - Female 15 1846 Scholar Plymouth, Devon, England
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Kerri
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13 May 2019 11:18 |
1851 &1861 same
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13 May 2019 11:16 |
Your 1861 census URL takes me to an Ancestry page asking me if I'd like to join Ancestry. Is it the same family as I posted 1851?
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13 May 2019 11:15 |
1841 Census 8 Records found Piece: HO107/271 Place: Plymouth Borough -Devon Enumeration District: 4 Civil Parish: Charles The Martyr Ecclesiastical Parish: Charles The Martyr Folio: 11 Page: 16 Address: Catdown
Surname First name(s) Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks BICKLEY Thomas M 35 Butcher Devon BICKLEY Elizth F 35 Devon BICKLEY George M 10m Outside Census County (1841) BICKLEY Anna F 3 Devon LORD Margarett F 15 Females Ervant Devon HORN Charles M 35 Waterman Devon HORN Sophia F 25 Devon HORN John M 2 Devon
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13 May 2019 11:15 |
Yes thats the one. So we now know he married Elizabeth Potter in 1827
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13 May 2019 11:11 |
??this family
1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Robins Cottages, 1, William Lane, St Andrew, Plymouth, Devon, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Thomas Bickley Head Married Male 44 1807 Greenwich Pensioner Plymouth, Devon, England Elizabeth Bickley Wife - Female 47 1804 - Falmouth, Cornwall, England Ellen Bickley Daughter Unmarried Female 17 1834 - Bath, Somerset, England Thomas Bickley Son - Male 11 1840 Scholar Plymouth, Devon, England Mary Ann Bickley Daughter - Female 6 1845 Scholar Plymouth, Devon, England
---------------- Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: BICKLEY, MARY ANN POTTER GRO Reference: 1845 J Quarter in PLYMOUTH Volume 09 Page 385
BICKLEY, THOMAS POTTER GRO Reference: 1839 M Quarter in PLYMOUTH Volume 09 Page 431
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13 May 2019 11:11 |
1861 census https://search.ancestry.com.au/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&dbid=8767&h=16027928&ssrc=pt&tid=46295775&pid=6885994325&usePUB=true
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13 May 2019 11:07 |
Record Transcription: Devon Baptisms
First name(s) Thos Last name Bickley Baptism year 1803 Baptism date 17 Apr 1803 Denomination Anglican Place Plymouth, St Andrew Father's first name(s) Mattw Mother's first name(s) Jane Mother's last name - County Devon Country England Archive reference 358/6 Archive event Composite registers Page 37 Archive Plymouth & West Devon Record Office Record set Devon Baptisms Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Subcategory Parish Baptisms Collections from England, Great Britain
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greyghost
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13 May 2019 11:04 |
Not seeing a baptism in Devonshire from FMP.
Have you picked the family up on a census with a place of birth for Thomas?
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13 May 2019 11:02 |
baptism?
Report a transcription error. First name(s) Thomas Last name Bickley Birth year 1807 Birth date 27 Feb 1807 Baptism year 1811 Baptism date 18 Jun 1811 Denomination Anglican Place Plympton St Mary Father's first name(s) James Mother's first name(s) Hannah Mother's last name - County Devon Country England Archive reference 414/4 Archive event Composite registers Page 11 Archive Plymouth & West Devon Record Office Record set Devon Baptisms Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Subcategory Parish Baptisms Collections from England, Great Britain
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13 May 2019 11:02 |
Or
First name(s) Thomas Last name Bickley Marriage year 1827 Marriage date 21 Aug 1827 Parish East Stonehouse Place East Stonehouse Spouse's first name(s) Elizabeth Spouse's last name Potter Denomination Anglican County Devon Archive Plymouth & West Devon Record Office Record set Devon Marriages Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Subcategory Parish Marriages Collections from England, Great Britain
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13 May 2019 11:01 |
?? Devon Marriages
First name(s) Thomas Last name Bickley Marriage year 1827 Marriage date 21 Aug 1827 Parish East Stonehouse Place East Stonehouse Spouse's first name(s) Elizabeth Spouse's last name Potter Denomination Anglican County Devon Archive Plymouth & West Devon Record Office Record set Devon Marriages Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Subcategory Parish Marriages Collections from England, Great Britain
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