william is listed as henry
England and Wales Census, 1911
Name: Bertie Seale Event Type: Census Event Date: 1911 Event Place: Southport, Lancashire, England, United Kingdom County: Lancashire Parish: Southport Sub-District: North Meols Sub-District Number: 6 District Number: 457 Enumeration District: 34 Registration District: Ormskirk Gender: Male Age: 15 Marital Status: Single Marital Status: SINGLE Occupation: TRAIN BOOKER Industry: L AND Y RY CO Number in Family: 8 Birth Year (Estimated): 1896 Birthplace: Southport, Lancashire Relationship to Head of Household: Son Schedule Type: 28 Page Number: 1 Registration Number: RG14 Piece/Folio: 57 Affiliate Record Identifier: GBC/1911/RG14/22900/0057/3 Household Role Sex Age Birthplace HARRY Head Male 41 Weobley, Herefordshire Fannie Seale Wife Female 40 Bertie Seale Son Male 15 Southport, Lancashire HENRY Son Male 12 Southport, Lancashire PALMER Daughter Female 10 Southport, Lancashire ALEXANDER Son Male 7 Southport, Lancashire PALMER Daughter Female 0 Southport, Lancashire Alfred Kelsall Boarder Male 32 St Helens, Lancashire ELLEN Visitor Female 29 Wigan, Lancashire
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Births Mar 1896 (>99%) Seale Bertie Ormskirk 8b 811
Births Dec 1898 (>99%) Seale William Henry Ormskirk 8b 850
Births Jun 1901 (>99%) Seale Elsie Palmer Ormskirk 8b 824
SEALE Thomas Alexander Ormskirk 8b 905
Births Jun 1910 (>99%) SEALE Lilian Palmer Ormskirk 8b 900
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Elsie Palmer Seale View Tree Sex Female Birth 29 March 1901 Southport, Ormskirk, Lancashire 5 Death 3 April 1974 Bradford, City and Borough of Bradford, England, United Kingdom 2 Residence 2 April 1911 4 Hart Street, Southport, Lancashire, England 1 Residence 1901 4 Hart Street, Southport, Lancashire, England 1 PARENTS Father William Henry Seale Mother Fannie Smith MARRIAGES (1) Spouse 4.Walter Parkinson Marriage 2 July 1923 St Lukes, Southport, Lancaster, Ormskirk, West Lancashire District, Lancashire, England
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Name: Fanny Seale Sex: Female Husband: William Henry Seale Child: Lilian Palmer Seale Other information in the record of Lilian Palmer Seale from England, Lancashire, Parish Registers 1538-1910
Name: Lilian Palmer Seale Event Type: Christening Event Date: 03 Jul 1910 Event Place: St Luke's Church, Southport, Lancashire, England Gender: Unknown Father's Name: William Henry Seale Mother's Name: Fanny Seale
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fmp version Fannie Last name Smith Age 21 Birth year 1870 Marital status Spinster Residence Douglas (Parbold) Father's first name(s) Thomas Father's last name Smith Father's occupation Traveller ----------------------- Year 1891 Marriage year 1891 Marriage date 15 Dec 1891 Denomination Church Of England Place Douglas in Parbold, Christ Church Diocese Blackburn County Lancashire Country England Spouse's first name(s) William Henry Spouse's last name Seale Spouse's age 23 Spouse's birth year 1868 Spouse's marital status Bachelor Spouse's occupation Pointsman Spouse's residence Douglas (Parbold) Spouse's father's first name(s) Thomas Spouse's father's last name Seale Spouse's father's occupation Corn Miller Licence or banns Banns Witness 1 Gerald James Bold Witness 2 Hotty Steele Archive Lancashire Record Office Archive reference PR 2982/1/6 Register type Marriages Register year range 1862-1934
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Deaths Dec 1956 (>99%) SEALE Fanny 85 Bradford 2b 71
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Update - I have found on 1939 Census in Southport -
With Lillian P Buck born 1910 (Daughter) Then also listed after her is Elsie and Margaret Parkinson who I know I am related to 100%. This Fanny Seale DOB is 18th Nov(I think) 1870.
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Births Mar 1870 Smith Frances Wigan 8c 39
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Hi,
Please could anyone offer any advice on this one? Fanny or Fannie Smith
What I know for sure - - Married 15th December 1891 to William Henry Seale. Age listed as 21 - abt 1870, Living Douglas (Parbold) Father - Thomas Smith Occupation - Possibly says Trowller? - Census 1911 - Living at 4 Hart Street Lancashire, Age 40 - abt 1871 birthplace not listed, Married 19 years - abt 1892 with 5 children and 5 surviving. - Census 1901 - Living at 4 Hart Street Southport, Age 32 - abt 1869 place of birth Shropshire Parkgate
I have found 2 possible births one in 1869 Shrewsbury MMN Palmer and one 1870 Church Stretton MMN Bromley. Looked on Census and option in 1891 in West Derby but living with a step sister surname Stubbs which I haven't been able to trace yet to see if they are connected. Found both Fanny's from the birth records in 1871 and neither have Thomas as the father I think I found one in 1891 with a family member listed as stepson and surname stubbs.
My gut tells me the MMN Palmer is probably correct as lots of Fanny and Williams children include the middle name Palmer however I also thought Williams Mother was called Ann Palmer (Just waiting birth certificate at the moment for him) It seems strange they would both have fathers called Thomas and MMN Palmer?!?!
Anyway any help as to where to go that might narrow things down would be fab. Thanks
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