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Dea
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2 May 2019 08:14 |
Re your question above as to who lived at Poltimore House/Manor.
Apparently until 1920 it was occupied by the Bampfylde family :
1911 Census For England & Wales
Poltimore Park Poltimore Exeter, Poltimore, Devon, England First name(s) Coplestone Richard George Warwick Baron Last name Poltimore Relationship Head Marital status Married Sex Male Age 51 Birth year 1860 Birth place Devon Poltimore Park Occupation Peer Of The Realm Street Poltimore Park Address Poltimore Park Poltimore Exeter Parish Poltimore NB - his name was actually Bamfylde - he was 'Baron Poltimore'...
Also living there was his brother:
First name(s) Francis Warwick Last name Bampfylde Honble (Honble probably is his title - Honorable ??) Relationship Brother Marital status Single Sex Male Age 26 Birth year 1885 Birth place Middlesex 77 Eaton Square London Occupation No Occupation
There was also 1 visitor and around 16 servants - none of them was Bessie.
Dea x
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Dea
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2 May 2019 07:50 |
Good morning.
It has taken me nearly an hour but I have found his birth at last with the mmn Lennard !!
Had found:
EBDON, MARK LENNARD GRO Reference: 1846 J Quarter in ST THOMAS UNION Volume 10 Page 240
EBDON, MAHALA MARY LENNARD GRO Reference: 1849 J Quarter in ST THOMAS UNION Volume 10 Page 239 EBDON, WILLIAM THOMAS LENNARD GRO Reference: 1854 J Quarter in ST THOMAS Volume 05B Page 47 Not on GRO ??? - BUT : Births Jun 1860 ***** EBDON John Henry St Thomas 5b 46
Bingo !!! - It was mistranscribed on GRO as :
ELDON, JOHN HENRY LENNARD GRO Reference: 1860 J Quarter in SAINT THOMAS Volume 05B Page 46
Will now take a look at the rest of the thread.............
Dea x
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2 May 2019 04:30 |
This is the death of Ralph Dunn, age 1 on the 1921 Census
Event Type: Death Registration Number: 1994-09-021286 Event Date (YYYY-MM-DD): 1994-10-29 Event Place: VANCOUVER Age at Death: 74 Person: RALPH ST CLAIR DUNN Vital Stat Images(s): DTH_1994021286.jpg DTH_1994021286M.jpg
image of death certificate at .........
http://search-collections.royalbcmuseum.bc.ca/Image/Genealogy/ef47bc59-7b87-4ab0-a062-643f2d71b483
amended version of certificate ..........
http://search-collections.royalbcmuseum.bc.ca/Image/Genealogy/e1481a26-c3f2-4316-8c8c-679f71d9876e
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SylviaInCanada
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2 May 2019 04:27 |
The 1921 Census says Frank Vivian Dunn was 46, that equates to a birth year ca 1875.
A Family Tree on Ancestry has Frank Vivian Dunn born 6 September 1874, Bridgewater, Somerset. His family emigrated to Canada ca 1882.
He seems to have died in 1958, and is buried in Mountain View Cemetery, Vancouver ..........
from Mountain View Cemetery site ............
Google:- Vancouver, British Columbia, Mountain View Cemetery Index, 1887-2007
He was married before Dorothy ............
Marriage 1 November 1903, Windermere, British Columbia, to Annie Mary Welford.
But was shown as Widowed on the 1911 Canadian Census
His WW1 records and censuses, etc can be accessed at
http://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/discover/Pages/a-z-index.aspx#w
from the site ............
http://search-collections.royalbcmuseum.bc.ca/Genealogy
Event Type: Death Registration Number: 1958-09-013412 BC Archives Mfilm Number: B13239 GSU Mfilm Number: 2033180 Event Date (YYYY-MM-DD): 1958-12-07 Event Place: VANCOUVER Age at Death: 88 Person: VIVIEN FRANK DUNN Vital Stat Images(s): 004437867_02451.jpg
you can see the image of his death certificate here .........
http://search-collections.royalbcmuseum.bc.ca/Image/Genealogy/62921819-6bfb-4957-937c-b045be9e3b2c
Buried in the same grave with Vivien Frank at Mountain View Cemetery was the following, died in 1931. Possible his mother????
Event Type: Death Registration Number: 1931-09-454570 BC Archives Mfilm Number: B13142 GSU Mfilm Number: 1952653 Event Date (YYYY-MM-DD): 1931-06-19 Event Place: VANCOUVER Age at Death: 86 Person: CHARLOTTE ELIZA DUNN
yes .............. the copy of his marriage certificate shows his father as Frank S Dunn and mother as Charlotte Eliza Dunn
http://search-collections.royalbcmuseum.bc.ca/Image/Genealogy/afa8b63b-0c08-46df-be7d-ac6d0b0d88a6
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2 May 2019 03:20 |
Dorothy's marriage from Freebmd, if you don't have this record
Marriages Mar 1919 (>99%) Dunn Vivian F Ebdon Hartley W. 2c 442 Ebdon Dorothy F Dunn Hartley W. 2c 442
Hartley W = Hartley Wintney, and is in Hampshire
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MargaretM
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2 May 2019 02:25 |
Dorothy & husband (also using middle name) in 1921, It says he emigrated 1884. Wonder how they met? Edit: He was a Canadian soldier in WW1 where his name is listed as Vivian Frank.
Dorothy Dunn in the 1921 Census of Canada Name: Dorothy Dunn Gender: Female Marital status: Married Age: 22 Birth Year: abt 1899 Birth Place: England Relation to Head of House: Wife Spouse's name: Vivian Dunn Father Birth Place: England Mother Birth Place: England Year of Immigration: 1919 Racial or Tribal Origin: English Province or Territory: British Columbia District: Skeena
Household Members: Vivian Dunn 46 Dorothy Dunn 22 Ralph Dunn 1
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safc
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1 May 2019 23:29 |
hi there's some ebdons on this site don't know if any are yours
https://www.findagrave.com/
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Samantha
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1 May 2019 22:55 |
1911 census Bessie was a servant at the age of 16 yrs 1901 census they wee living at Poltimore square. Im just wondering if Bessie was a servant at Poltimore House/Manor in 1911 and who owned the Manor House in that time of 1901 - 1911
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1 May 2019 22:44 |
Record Transcription: 1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Poltimore House, Poltimore, St Thomas, Devon, England
Household Members Members that resided in the household at the time of the census. First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Annie Scott Head Single Female 54 1847 Housekeeper Crediton, Devon, England Ellen Morse Servant Single Female 28 1873 Laundress Swansea, Glamorganshire, Wales Jeanie Davidson Servant Single Female 23 1878 Laundress Scotland Elizabeth Smyth Servant Single Female 24 1877 Housemaid (Domestic) Devon, England Kate Williams Servant Single Female 19 1882 Housemaid (Domestic) Whipton, Devon, England
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1 May 2019 22:42 |
1891 Census 21 Records found Piece: RG12/1681 Place: St Thomas -Devon Enumeration District: 10 Civil Parish: Poltimore Ecclesiastical Parish: Poltimore Folio: 40 Page: 4 Schedule: 18 Address: The Rectory
Surname First name(s) Rel Status Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks STERRY Francis Head M M 56 Clerk In Holy Orders Essex - Upminster STERRY Augusta Emily Wife M F 48 Surrey - Reigate STERRY Emily Frances Dau S F 26 Devon - Stockland STERRY Ethel Dau S F 22 Somerset - Chilton Cantelo STERRY Maude Augusta Dau S F 20 Devon - Poltimore STERRY Mary Georgina Dau S F 18 Devon - Poltimore STERRY Rachel Dau S F 16 Devon - Poltimore STERRY Hester Dau S F 13 Devon - Poltimore STERRY Dorothy Dau S F 11 Devon - Poltimore STERRY Agnes Nora Dau S F 9 Devon - Poltimore STERRY Francis Middleton Son S M 9 Devon - Poltimore ASHWIN Mary Eliza Servnt S F 33 Governess To Children Overseas - British - New South Wales WHIDDON Lucy Servnt S F 36 Cook Domestic Devon - Broadclyst ELLIOTT Emma Susan Servnt S F 38 Nurse Domestic Somerset - Frome HALFORD Emily Servnt S F 26 Housemaid Domestic Devon - Rewe HOULDSWORTH Mary A Servnt S F 23 Laundry Maid Domestic Middlesex - London ADDICOTT Margaret Ann Servnt S F 15 Housemaid Domestic Devon - Clyst St George STARK Eva Servnt S F 22 Laundry Maid Domestic Devon - Poltimore HANSFORD Ellen Fanny Servnt S F 19 Kitchen Maid Domestic Dorset - Bridport STIRLING Mabel Ethel Servnt S F 17 Kitchen Maid Domestic Somerset - Trent ROUNDEFELL John Jas Servnt S M 21 Foot Man Domestic Devon - Exeter
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Samantha
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1 May 2019 22:23 |
Also looking at the 1901 census info you have supplied says that the address was Poltimore Square I have just gone to google this and Poltimore House has come up. Bessie Ebdon my great grandmother was a servant at a local Manor House, maybe this one? How would I go about finding the owners at that time. All suggestions are welcome.
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Samantha
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1 May 2019 22:20 |
Hi Dea
Mark Ebdon born 1890 could also be Samuel M Ebdon born 1890 as they did tend to use their middle names???
Also are we saying that John h Ebdon in the 1871 census that you have given me is the John my 2x Great grandfather???
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Dea
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1 May 2019 22:11 |
Very probably but I can see his birth reg !!!
He was down as Henry J in 1861 just to confuse:
1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Cemetry Place, Withycombe Rawleigh, St Thomas, Devon, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Samuel Ebdon Head Married Male 42 1819 Agricultural Labourer Devon, England Harriett Ebdon Wife Married Female 42 1819 Lace Maker Aylesbeare, Devon, England Mahala M Ebdon Daughter - Female 12 1849 Lace Maker Withycombe, Devon, England Harriett A Ebdon Daughter - Female 9 1852 Scholar Withycombe, Devon, England William T Ebdon Son - Male 7 1854 Scholar Withycombe, Devon, England Henry J Ebdon Son - Male 1 1860 - Withycombe, Devon, England Jane Lennard Mother In Law Widow Female 83 1778 - Rockbeare, Devon, England Henry J Ebdon's Census Details
Have to go off line now but will take another look in the morning.
Dea x
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Samantha
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1 May 2019 22:09 |
Hi Dea
So Mark Ebdon born 1890 is Samuel M Ebdon born 1890??? As they did sometimes use their middle names is this not the case?
Also are we saying that the 1871 census info that you have given me is that, John H Ebdon aged 11 yrs is my 2x great grandfather John?
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Dea
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1 May 2019 22:01 |
Dorothy Florence's death cert can be seen here:
http://search-collections.royalbcmuseum.bc.ca/Image/Genealogy/bd178830-a3d9-464a-b5af-9fb1af7d2173
Dea x
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Samantha
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1 May 2019 21:56 |
Ok found more...…………….
Dorothy Ebdon married Frank Vivian Dunn Dorothy Florence Dunn Death 19 May 1982 West Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada Widowed 83 yrs
Frank Ebdon Married - Newton Abbot, Devon 1935 oct/nov/dec Spouse - Gladys I Doble
Ivan J Ebdon Married - Plymouth, Devon 1941 apr/may/jun Spouse - Rowena D Whiteway
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safc
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1 May 2019 21:48 |
Bessie Ebdon on the 1939 Register
1939 Register Transcription
Ebdon Household (1 Person) 33 Summerland Street , Exeter C.B., Devon, England Add to tree View original image Print First name(s) Last name(s) Sex DOB Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule Sub Number Bessie Ebdon Female 02 Feb 1863 Old Age Pensioner Widowed 61 1
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Dea
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1 May 2019 21:46 |
1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Bath Road, Exeter, Devon, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place John Ebdon Head Married Male 31 1860 Bricklayer Devon, England Bessie Ebdon Wife Married Female 28 1863 - Devon, England Beatrice A Ebdon Daughter - Female 8 1883 Scholar Devon, England Samuel M Ebdon Son - Male 1 1890 - Devon, England
This looks like a very possible for John and his family?
1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Withycombe Village, Withycombe Raleigh, St Thomas, Devon, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Samuel Ebdon Head - Male 52 1819 - Devon, England Ag. Labr. Harriet Ebdon Wife - Female 52 1819 - Devon, England Mark Ebdon Son - Male 24 1847 - Devon, England - Bricklayer.... W Thomas Ebdon Son - Male 17 1854 - Devon, England John H Ebdon Son - Male 11 1860 - Devon, England
The same names seem to run through the generations............
Dea x
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Samantha
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1 May 2019 21:39 |
Thank you Dea
alviegal I have used the probate page to find a will for another family member back in 2017 long story, someone keeping secrets from my dad.
Bessie Ebdon is on there you say, I wonder what that's all about????
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alviegal
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1 May 2019 21:32 |
There is also this site https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk.
You can generally find someone's death on https://www.freebmd.org.uk (as mentioned by Dea) and then, if you're lucky, you can find their address and date of death. Also who was awarded probate can help with family names.
Bessie Ebdon b 1863 can be found.
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