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Ancestry World search - Helen Knobel please

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Rambling

Rambling Report 1 May 2019 11:18

As both of the major sites are playing up today I can't look at the possible record in US I saw last night but don't in any case think it was likely to be the right one.

Just an observation which may well be wrong, but given that Rachael was born 1946 and there does not seem to be a passenger record for Helen coming to the UK , I would guess perhaps that she (Helen) came from Europe either during the war or very shortly after?

The surname also shows up in South Africa so that might be a possible also?

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 1 May 2019 11:00

Name Joachim Knobel
Event Type Draft Registration
Event Date 1917-1918
Event Place Madison County, Montana, United States
Gender Male
Birth Date 21 Mar 1896
Birthplace Glarus, , Switzerland

Name Joachim Knobel
Event Type Draft Registration
Event Date 1942
Event Place Leominster, Worcester, Massachusetts, United States
Residence Place Leominster, Worcester, Massachusetts
Gender Male
Employer Joachim/Knobel
Birth Date 21 Mar 1896


Name Joachim Knobel
Event Type Passport Application
Event Date 1921
Event Place Montana, United States
Birth Date 21 Mar 1896
Birthplace Switzerland
Certificate Number 59423


1930 census

Name Joachin R Knobel
Event Type Census
Event Date 1930
Event Place North Bergen, Hudson, New Jersey, United States
Gender Male
Age 34
Marital Status Married
Race White
Race White
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Birth Year (Estimated) 1896
Birthplace Switzerland
Immigration Year 1911
Father's Birthplace Switzerland
Mother's Birthplace Switzerland
Sheet Letter B
Sheet Number 19
Joachin R Knobel Head M 34 Switzerland
Helen Knobel Wife F 21 New Jersey
Ronald Knobel Son M 1 New Jersey

Name Joachim Knobel
Event Type Immigration
Event Date 22 Jun 1914
Event Place Ellis Island, New York City, New York, United States
Residence Place Glarus, Switzerland
Gender Male
Age 18
Marital Status Single
Nationality Switzerland, German
Birth Year 1896
Departure Port Bremen
Ship Name Prinz Friedrich Wilhelm
Additional Name Rosa Knobel
Departure Contact Name Relationship Mother
Arrival Contact Name G C Mc ???
Arrival Contact Name Relationship Friend
Page Number 131
Affiliate Line Number 0030

ALL from familysearch

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 1 May 2019 10:49

1909 is part of the title of the record set.

You could have found the 1940 census on the FREE site familysearch

Is this her?

Name Helen M Knobel
Event Type Census
Event Date 1940
Event Place Ward 1, Leominster, Leominster City, Worcester, Massachusetts, United States
Gender Female
Age 9
Marital Status Single
Race White
Race White
Relationship to Head of Household Daughter
Relationship to Head of Household Daughter
Birthplace New Jersey
Birth Year (Estimated) 1931
Last Place of Residence Lincoln Park, Morris, New Jersey
Joachim R Knobel Head M 44 Switzerland
Helen L Knobel Wife F 32 New Jersey
Ronald Knobel Son M 11 New Jersey
Helen M Knobel Daughter F 9 New Jersey

EDITED 13.45

Too young

Ronald

Ronald Report 1 May 2019 08:19

Good morning malyon, sorry I missed your post last evening. Can I ask if the record holds any other personal details please? Also, there is a reference to the year 1909 that I'm unsure about. What does this signify?
I'm going to a funeral in a short while and won't be back until late afternoon, so please don't think I'm ignoring you if I don't reply this morning.
Many thanks

malyon

malyon Report 30 Apr 2019 22:19

Helen Knobel
New York, New York Passenger and Crew Lists, 1909, 1925-1957
Name:
Helen Knobel
Event Type:
Immigration
Event Date:
1955
Event Place:
New York City, New York, United States
Gender:
Female
Ship Name:
Hb-Ibo

Ronald

Ronald Report 30 Apr 2019 21:51

Ok Andy, I thought there might be a closure period but wasn't sure for how long. Thanks anyway.

Ronald

Ronald Report 30 Apr 2019 21:49

Helen's child Rachael was born in a 'retreat' for single mothers and subsequently adopted by my aunt and uncle who changed her name. I am trying to discover Rachael's natural birth ancestors.

Andrew

Andrew Report 30 Apr 2019 21:45

I don't think the USA 1950 has been released yet. I think they have a 70 year closure period.

Andy

Ronald

Ronald Report 30 Apr 2019 21:41

Thank you Rambling. I think this is probably not the Helen Knobel I'm searching for, but I'm grateful for your help.

Ronald

Ronald Report 30 Apr 2019 21:38

Thank you Andy, is there any record for her or her family in the 1950 census please?

Rambling

Rambling Report 30 Apr 2019 21:35

Doesn't appear to be on incoming passenger lists.

Andrew

Andrew Report 30 Apr 2019 21:27

1940 United States Federal Census
View 1940 United States Federal Census



Name: Helen Knobel
Age: 12
Estimated birth year: abt 1928
Gender: Female
Race: White
Birthplace: New Jersey
Marital status: Single
Relation to Head of House: Daughter
Home in 1940: Hoboken, Hudson, New Jersey
Map of Home in 1940: View Map
Street: Park Avenue
Inferred Residence in 1935: Hoboken, Hudson, New Jersey
Residence in 1935: Same Place
Sheet Number: 14A
Attended School or College: Yes
Highest Grade Completed: Elementary school, 7th grade
Neighbors:
Household Members:
Name Age
Charles Knobel 32
Catherine Knobel 30
Helen Knobel 12
Margaret Knobel 8


Andy

Ronald

Ronald Report 30 Apr 2019 21:23

I'd be extremely grateful if somebody could let me know the details of the above person in the 1940 US Federal census and any other family members. Also if there is any entry for Helen in the 1950 census please. I am searching for a Helen Knobel b abt 1929. She had a child named Rachael (no father shown on the birth certificate) in November 1946 in South Norwood, London and I'm wondering if she emigrated from America between 1940 and 1946.
Thank you in advance,
Ron