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Frank Batty born. Kingston-upon-Hull

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Rambling

Rambling Report 23 Apr 2019 21:34

There's Frank batty showing up at Lockton st as per the 1939 reg 1949 but not with Maisie so that one definitely survived the blitz.

1937 possible with Bessie batty

Frank Batty
Year: 1937
County or Borough: Kensington and Chelsea
Ward or Division/Constituency: Kensington
Street address: 9 Bolton Road
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ErikaH

ErikaH Report 23 Apr 2019 21:31

Yorkshire Marriages

First name(s) Sophia
Last name Bibby
Age 22
Birth year 1874
Residence 8 Stowards Road, Chapman Street
Marriage year 1896
Marriage date 29 Feb 1896
Marriage place Hull, St Mark
Spouse's first name(s) Frank
Spouse's last name Batty
Spouse's age 21
Spouse's residence 6 New Parade Dansom Lane
Father's first name(s) James
Father's last name Bibby
Spouse's father's first name(s) Daniel***************************************
Spouse's father's last name Batty

Catherine

Catherine Report 23 Apr 2019 21:20

Looks like Emmeiline died in 1940

Name: Emmeline Batty
Death Age: 69
Birth Date: abt 1871
Registration Date: Sep 1940
Registration district: Hull
Inferred County: Yorkshire East Riding
Volume: 9d
Page: 497

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 23 Apr 2019 21:20

???????

Yorkshire Banns

First name(s) Frank
Last name Batty
Banns year 1896
Banns date ? ? 1896
Marriage year 1896
Marriage date 29 Feb 1896
Place Hull, St Mark
Residence Hull
Spouse's first name(s) Sophia
Spouse's last name Bibby
Spouse's residence Hull

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 23 Apr 2019 21:16

NOT with family in 1901

Name: Daniel Batty
Age: 50
Estimated birth year: abt 1851
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Spouse: Elizabeth Batty
Birth Place: Hull, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Sculcoates
Ecclesiastical parish: St Andrew
Town: Kingston upon Hull
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Registration district: Sculcoates
Sub-registration district: Drypool
ED, institution, or vessel: 15
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4484
Folio: 47
Page Number: 24
Household schedule number: 135
Household Members:
Name Age
Daniel Batty 50
Elizabeth Batty 48
Charles Henry Batty 4
William Batty 17
Frances Batty 15
Harold Batty 11
George Batty 9
Elizabeth Batty 7
Robert C W Batty 4

Andrew

Andrew Report 23 Apr 2019 21:14

Could this be the marriage??

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Sep 1911 (>99%)
Batty Frank Sculcoates 9d 288
Booth Minnie Sculcoates 9d 288

EDIT.

NO. She is still in Yorkshire with a son in 1939.

Andy

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 23 Apr 2019 21:13

1881

Name: Frank Batty
Age: 5
Estimated birth year: abt 1876
Relationship to Head: Son
Father: Daniel Batty
Mother: Elizabeth Batty
Gender: Male
Where born: Hull
Civil Parish: Drypool
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Street address: 14 East St
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4753
Folio: 18
Page Number: 32
Household Members:
Name Age
Daniel Batty 30
Elizabeth Batty 28
John P. Batty 7
Frank Batty 5
Margaret B. Batty 3
Charles H. Batty 1

1891

Name: Frank Batty
Gender: Male
Age: 15
Relationship: Son
Birth Year: 1876
Father: Daniel Batty
Mother: Elizabeth Batty
Birth Place: Hull, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Southcoates
Residence Place: Kingston upon Hull, Southcoates, Yorkshire, England
Sub registration district: Drypool
ED, Institution or Vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3923
Folio: 113
Household Members:
Name Age
Daniel Batty 40
Elizabeth Batty 38
Frank Batty 15
Margaret B Batty 13
Charles H Batty 11
Edith Batty 9
William Batty 7
Frances Batty 5
Harold Batty 1
John Stokell 42

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 23 Apr 2019 21:07

The Ancestry tree is wrong - as so many of them are.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 23 Apr 2019 21:06

There is NO marriage in England/Wales to match the 'couple' on 1939 register

Rambling

Rambling Report 23 Apr 2019 21:06

This is the one born 1873 married to Emmeline

23 Prince's Road, Kingston-Upon-Hull C.B., Yorkshire (East Riding), England

Frank Batty 05 Sep 1873 Male Iron-Moulder Labourer Married 157 1
Emmeline Batty 28 Jun 1871 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Retied Single 157 2

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 23 Apr 2019 21:05

Emmeline died in 1940

Deaths Sep 1940 (>99%)
Batty Emmeline 69 Hull 9d 497

The 'other' Frank?

Name: Francis Batty
Death Age: 83
Birth Date: abt 1874
Registration Date: Mar 1957
Registration district: Hull
Inferred County: Yorkshire East Riding
Volume: 2a
Page: 220



Marriages Sep 1897 (>99%)
BATTY Frank Sculcoates 9d 252
James Emmeline Sculcoates 9d 252

Rambling

Rambling Report 23 Apr 2019 21:04

BATTY, FRANCIS BINNING
GRO Reference: 1873 D Quarter in SCULCOATES Volume 09D Page 159

BATTY, FRANK STOKELL
GRO Reference: 1875 D Quarter in SCULCOATES Volume 09D Page 166

or

BATTY, FRANK ANDREW
GRO Reference: 1896 S Quarter in SCULCOATES Volume 09D Page 203

SueBrewer

SueBrewer Report 23 Apr 2019 21:02

Sorry ErikaH Taken from friends granddads records Rambling Has got it right so far may be smudged I would also like to thank Rambling and you good self and Catherine for your interest and time.

Catherine

Catherine Report 23 Apr 2019 21:02

this looks to be the Frank that married Emmeline

1939
Name: Frank Batty
Gender: Male
Marital status: Married
Birth Date: 5 Sep 1873
Residence Year: 1939
Address: 23
Residence Place: Kingston-upon-Hull, Yorkshire (East Riding), England
Occupation: Iron-moulder labourer retired
Schedule Number: 157
Sub Schedule Number: 1
Enumeration District: JAMH
Registration district: 522-3
Inferred Spouse: Emmeline Batty
Household Members:
Name
Frank Batty
Emmeline Batty

not same birth date


1911 for same couple
Name: Frank Batty
Age in 1911: 39
Estimated birth year: abt 1872
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Hull, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Sculcoates
Search Photos: Search for 'Sculcoates' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection
County/Island: Yorkshire-East Riding
Country: England
Street address: 5 Orchard View Newland Av Hull
Marital status: Married
Occupation: Labourer Molder
Registration district: Sculcoates
Registration District Number: 521
Sub-registration district: West Sculcoates
ED, institution, or vessel: 35
Piece: 28746
Household Members:
Name Age
Frank Batty 39
Emmeline Batty 39
Ivy May Batty 12
Harold Batty 11
Norman Batty 9
Gordon Batty 8
Constance Batty 8/12

Catherine

Catherine Report 23 Apr 2019 21:00

maybe?

Name: Frank Batty
Age: 5
Estimated birth year: abt 1876
Relationship to Head: Son
Father: Daniel Batty
Mother: Elizabeth Batty
Gender: Male
Where born: Hull
Civil Parish: Drypool
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Street address: 14 East St
Education:
Registration district: Sculcoates
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4753
Folio: 18
Page Number: 32
Household Members:
Name Age
Daniel Batty 30
Elizabeth Batty 28
John P. Batty 7
Frank Batty 5
Margaret B. Batty 3
Charles H. Batty 1

Rambling

Rambling Report 23 Apr 2019 20:59

It does look like Balty on the image,but there's nothing else coming up in that name?

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 23 Apr 2019 20:57

A tree on Ancestry says that the Frank born 2/10/1875 was born in Hull, parents Daniel Batty 1850-1925 and Elizabeth Stokell 1853-1901.

But he married Emmeline James 1871-1940, according to the tree.
Emmeline died in Hull.


So if that's the same man, and if the tree's info is correct, then maybe he had separated from Emmeline and taken up with Maisie ??


EDIT:

the tree gives no date of death for Frank.

Andrew

Andrew Report 23 Apr 2019 20:57

Ancestry version

Name: Massie Balty
Gender: Female
Marital status: Married
Birth Date: 7 Jul 1885
Residence Year: 1939
Address: 25
Residence Place: Kensington, London, England
Occupation: Cook
Schedule Number: 108
Sub Schedule Number: 2
Enumeration District: AMPB
Registration district: 2. 2 33b
Inferred Spouse: Frank Balty
Household Members:
Name
Frank Balty
Massie Balty

Andy

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 23 Apr 2019 20:54

Twenty years out on the birth. Where did your friend get his/her info?

Rambling

Rambling Report 23 Apr 2019 20:51

Not seeing a death on CWGC or for Maisie, does your friend have any details of family?