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Deaths Mar 1958
BATTY Francis 82 Marylebone 5d 443

Probate site keeps returning N surnames when I search for Batty.

Rose

If the OP returns, perhaps she will enlighten us

Re Bessie /Elizabeth's possible death 1938 Kensington - yes, I'd looked at that and thought it was probably the right one.

But not the 1921 marriage, unless they were living together before that as man and wife - they're together on 1919 ER.

But I've completely lost track of all these Franks, and have no idea if Bessie is relevant or not!

Yorkshire Baptisms

First name(s) George Edward Boyd
Last name Batty
Birth year 1896
Birth date 18 May 1896
Baptism year 1896
Baptism date 03 Jun 1896
Baptism place Hull, St Mark
Denomination Anglican
Father's first name(s) Frank
Father's last name -
Mother's first name(s) Sophia
County Yorkshire (East Riding)


First name(s) GEORGE EDWARD B
Last name BATTY
Gender Male
Birth day 18
Birth month 5
Birth year 1896
Age -
Death quarter 2
Death year 1972
District Hull
County Yorkshire
Volume 2A
Page 416

This might help................

Name: George Edward Batty
Age in 1911: 14
Estimated birth year: abt 1897
Relation to Head: Grandson
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Hull, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Sculcoates
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County/Island: Yorkshire-East Riding
Country: England
Street address: 50 York Street Wincolmlee Hull
Marital status: Single
Occupation: Earles Ship Yard (Labourer)
Registration district: Sculcoates
Registration District Number: 521
Sub-registration district: East Sculcoates
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Piece: 28696
Household Members:
Name Age
James Percy Goodman 60
Francis Goodman 63 Married 2 years
George Edward Batty 14

Marriages Dec 1909 (>99%)
BIBBY Frances Sculcoates 9d 251
GOODMAN James Pearson Sculcoates 9d 251

This COULD be the boy's birth

BATTY, GEORGE EDWARD BOYD WITTY
GRO Reference: 1896 S Quarter in SCULCOATES Volume 09D Page 118

1939
2 Irene Avenue Durham Street, Kingston-Upon-Hull C.B., Yorkshire (East Riding), England
George E B Batty 18 May 1896 Male Oil Millers Pressman Heavy Worker Married 58 1
Emily Batty 16 Sep 1891 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 58 2
John E B Batty 23 May 1922 Male Oil Mill Labourer Heavy Worker Single 58 3


First name(s) George Edward
Last name Batty
Birth year 1896
Birth day 18
Birth month May
Address 50, York Street, Wincolmlee, Hull
Service number R/5067
Service Royal Naval Division
National Archives Reference ADM339
Record set Royal Naval Division Service Records 1914-1920
Names grandmother as his N.O.K.

Height: 5'5"
Hair: Fair
Eyes: Blue

Going round in circles a bit ( a lot!) wondered about this one for Bessie and Frank?

Marriages Sep 1921 (>99%)
Batty Frank Briggs Kensington 1a 528
Briggs Elizabeth Batty Kensington 1a 528

but I did wonder about this death as 'a' Frank is with Bessie in 1937

First name(s) ELIZABETH
Last name BATTY
Gender Female
Birth day -
Birth month -
Birth year 1880
Age 58
Death quarter 2
Death year 1938
District Kensington
County London
Volume 1A
Page 185

1891
Name: Sophia Bibby
Gender: Female
Age: 16
Relationship: Daughter
Birth Year: 1875
Father: James Bibby
Mother: Frances Bibby
Birth Place: Newcastle on Tyne
Civil Parish: Sutton [with Stoneferry]
Residence Place: Kingston upon Hull, Sutton [with Stoneferry], Yorkshire, England
Sub registration district: Sutton
ED, Institution or Vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3913
Folio: 125
Household Members:
Name Age
James Bibby 43
Frances Bibby 42
George E Bibby 21
Sophia Bibby 16
Edith Bibby 14
Frances Bibby 12


1901 showing a child of Frank and Sophia (can't see a birth)

Name: George Batty
Age: 5
Estimated birth year: abt 1896
Relation to Head: Grandson
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Hull, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Sculcoates
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mark
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Street address:

Registration district: Sculcoates
Sub-registration district: Sutton
ED, institution, or vessel: 09
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4467
Folio: 69
Page Number: 37
Household schedule number: 197
Household Members:
Name Age
James Bibby 54
Frances Bibby 53
George Batty 5

Catherine has posted 1955 ER for Frank Batty at 25 Lockton Street.

Adding to that:

He's there 1945 to 1955, and various other people at same address (different flats ??), but no Maisie in any year.


Frank & Bessie:
1919 & 1920 - 14 Bolton Road
1925 - 56 Sirdar Road
1928 & 1930 - 44 Sirdar Road
1932 - 9 Bangor Street
1935 & 1936 - 114 Portobello Road
1937 - 9 Bolton Road
1938 - 9 Portobello Street

Not necessarily the same Frank.

Can't see Sophia in 1901

She had a child in 1898

BATTY, FRANCES (MMN) BIBBY
GRO Reference: 1898 D Quarter in SCULCOATES Volume 09D Page 122

Baptism
14 Sep 1898 • Hull, Yorkshire, England
St. Marks Church.


Sadly, she didn't survive

Deaths Mar 1900 (>99%)
Batty Frances 1 Sculcoates 9d 108

Oh yes, so it seems! There are so many Frank Battys, it's confusing.



???
Deaths Jun 1960 (>99%)
BATTY Bessie 70 Ealing 5e 157

Though if that's the right Bessie, she's not Maisie, at least going by her age, and assuming DOB in 1939 was correct.


EDIT:
But the Guisborough marriage in 1920 isn't the correct one.

This is probably Bessie Watson in 1911:

Bessie Watson
in the 1911 England Census
Name: Bessie Watson
Age in 1911: 13
Estimated birth year: abt 1898
Relation to Head: Daughter
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Askrigg, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Skelton
County/Island: Yorkshire-North Riding
Country: England
Street address: Stanghow Lane Skelton In Cleveland
Occupation: School
Registration district: Guisborough
Registration District Number: 534
Sub-registration district: Skelton
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Piece: 29168
Household Members:
Name Age
Charles Edwin Watson 45
Jane Watson 50
Albert Norman Watson 18
Bessie Watson 13

Bessie Watson
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Birth Index, 1837-1915
Name: Bessie Watson
Registration Year: 1897
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration district: Aysgarth
Inferred County: Yorkshire North Riding
Volume: 9d
Page: 706



Bessie Batty
in the 1939 England and Wales Register
Name: Bessie Batty
Gender: Female
Marital status: Married
Birth Date: 31 Jul 1897
Residence Year: 1939
Address: 32
Residence Place: Darlington, Durham, England
Occupation: Unpaid Domestic Duties
Schedule Number: 135
Sub Schedule Number: 2
Enumeration District: FACD
Registration district: 543-1
Inferred Spouse: Frank Batty
Household Members:
Name
Frank Batty - 4 July 1898 - Chief Controller Railway
Bessie Batty

The Frank in Kensington seems to be the one, and if so he was there after the war.

Frank certainly doesn't appear to have been killed in the Blitz in 1940 - unless this is him:

Deaths Dec 1940
Unknown (Unknown) Man * Kensington 1A 267

That's a handwritten addition to the Index, and the man's age is given as "Abt 60" .

The marriage to Emmeline has already been shown to be a different Frank.

Record Transcription:
Yorkshire Marriages

First name(s) Emmeline
Last name James
Age 26
Birth year 1871
Residence 4 Vane Street
Marriage year 1897
Marriage date 06 Sep 1897
Marriage place Hull, Newland, St Augustine of Hippo
Spouse's first name(s) Frank
Spouse's last name Batty
Spouse's age 24
Spouse's residence 26 Prince Road
Father's first name(s) William Augustus
Father's last name James
Spouse's father's first name(s) Frank
Spouse's father's last name Batty
County Yorkshire (East Riding)
Country England
Archive East Riding Archives & Local Studies Service
Archive reference PE 163/11
Page 10
Record set Yorkshire Marriages
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Parish Marriages
Collections from England, Great Britain

Marriages Sep 1897 (>99%)
BATTY Frank Sculcoates 9d 252
James Emmeline Sculcoates 9d 252

Sophia, that married Frank in 1896 ??

Name: Sophia Batty
Estimated birth year: abt 1874
Registration Year: 1908
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Age at Death: 34
Registration district: Sculcoates
Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County: Yorkshire East Riding
Volume: 9d
Page: 127

Marriages Mar 1920 (>99%)
Batty Frank Watson Guisbro' 9d 1003
Marriages Sep 1920 (>99%)
Batty Frank Watson Guisbro' 9d 1330

both entries to Bessie

appear to have had a child 1924, Guisbro'

???

Deaths Dec 1933 (>99%)
Batty Minnie 45 Sculcoates 9d 152

In 1939 she says she's a widow.

???

Deaths Dec 1935 (>99%)
Batty Frank 47 Sculcoates 9d 193

Therefore seems to be a different Frank .

Frank Batty with Bessie
Year: 1930
County or Borough: Kensington and Chelsea
Ward or Division/Constituency: Kensington
Street address: 44 SIRDAR ROAD-O

The Frank Batty, living 25 Lockton Street, Kensington :-

Name: Frank Batty
Year: 1955
County or Borough: Kensington and Chelsea
Ward or Division/Constituency: Kensington
Street address: 25 Lockton Street

living at same address:-
Daniel and Margaret Miller

...............so still alive in 1955