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William O Turk

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supercrutch

supercrutch Report 29 Mar 2019 23:28

Help please.

There are two entries for his marriage in Westbury on Severn Q3 1884
6a 309 and 6a 379

Am I being completely daft? I cannot locate his wife's name. I know people have added someone on another site but I don't take anyone's word for it.

Please put me out of tonight's misery.

Thanks Sue

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 30 Mar 2019 00:06

Maybe one of these?

Marriages Sep 1884 (>99%)
Babb Charles Westbury 6a 399 Scan available - click to view
Bubb Charles Westbury S 6a 399 Scan available - click to view
DEAN Elizabeth Westbury S. 6a 399 Scan available - click to view
Turk William Oliver Westbury S. 6a 309 Scan available - click to view
Turk William Oliver Westbury 6a 379 Scan available - click to view
Wilkes Annie Westbury S. 6a 399 Scan available - click to view


Have you found him on any census please? Do you have a year of birth for him?

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 30 Mar 2019 00:20

From the 1891 census, Charles Bubb is with Annie so looks like William married Elizabeth Dean?

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 30 Mar 2019 00:57

Here they are. Check the GRO index for births using mmn Dean.

Transcription:
1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Albert Street, Lydney, Chepstow, Gloucestershire, England


First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place

William O Turk Head Married Male 27 1864 Gas Stoker Newham, Gloucestershire, England
Elizabeth Turk Wife Married Female 28 1863 - Gloucestershire, England
Alfred H Turk Son Single Male 3 1888 - Cinderford, Gloucestershire, England
Elsie E Turk Daughter Single Female 2 1889 - Cinderford, Gloucestershire, England
Edgar U Turk Son Single Male 0 1891 - Lydney, Gloucestershire, England

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 30 Mar 2019 01:00

Record Transcription:
1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census
53, Newerne Street, Lydney, Lydney (Gloucs), Chepstow, Gloucestershire, England


First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place

William Turk Head Married Male 37 1864 Gas Fitter Newnham, Gloucestershire, England
Elizabeth Turk Wife Married Female 38 1863 - Littledean, Gloucestershire, England
Alfred Turk Son Single Male 13 1888 Pickler At Tin Works Cinderford, Gloucestershire, England
Elise Turk Daughter Single Female 12 1889 - Cinderford, Gloucestershire, England
Florence Turk Daughter - Female 7 1894 - Lydney, Gloucestershire, England
Albert Turk Son - Male 2 1899 - Lydney, Gloucestershire, England

supercrutch

supercrutch Report 30 Mar 2019 01:03

1871 and 1881 he was living with his grandpa also William Turk.

1901 he was living with his wife Elizabeth who died in 1908

1911 he was living with his wife of 1 year Ann.

I have yet to tie down his Father's name.

I guess I will have to add Dean (thanks rootgatherer) I didn't spot the page no 399 which doesn't match William :-(

Thanks again :-D

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 30 Mar 2019 09:12

Don’t guess! Check the births of the children on the FREE Glosbmd site. MMN is recorded.

http://ww3.gloucestershire.gov.uk/bmd/

The GRO site is also FREE - if your enquiries are for other counties.

https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/Login.asp

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 30 Mar 2019 09:35

William was illegitimate

Name: William Oliver Turk
Event Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 22 Mar 1864
Baptism Place: Newnham, Gloucestershire, England
Parish as it Appears: Newnham
Parent : Ellen Turk

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 30 Mar 2019 09:46

Grandfather

Name: William Turk
Age: 69
Birth Year: abt 1812
Burial Date: 10 Oct 1881
Burial Place: Newnham, Gloucestershire, England
Parish as it Appears: Newnham


Name: William Turk
Event Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 10 Mar 1811
Baptism Place: Minsterworth, Gloucestershire, England
Father: John Turk
Mother: Sophia Turk

William O's Mother

Name: Ellen Turk
Event Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 4 Nov 1838
Baptism Place: Westbury on Severn, Gloucestershire, England
Father: William Turk
Mother: Mary Turk

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 30 Mar 2019 09:46

Name: Ellen Turk
Gender: Female
Marriage Age: Full Age
Event Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 19 Mar 1865
Marriage Place: Newnham, Gloucestershire, England
Father: William Turk
Spouse: Richard Hilo Matthews
Father: Hilo Matthews

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 30 Mar 2019 10:03

Name: Richard H. Matthews
Age: 51
Estimated birth year: abt 1830
Relationship to Head: Head
Spouse: Ellen Matthews
Gender: Male
Where born: Yazor, Hereford, England
Civil Parish: Lydney
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England
Street address: Newern
Marital status: Married

Occupation: Butcher
Registration district: Chepstow
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 5221
Folio: 82
Page Number: 39
Household Members:
Name Age
Richard H. Matthews 51
Ellen Matthews 42
Hilo John Matthews 14
Mary Jane Matthews 12
Ruth Elizth. Matthews 6
George Wilkins 31


Name: Richard Hilo Matthews
Age: 76
Birth Year: abt 1830
Burial Date: 8 Dec 1906
Burial Place: Lydney, Gloucestershire, England
Parish as it Appears: Lydney with Aylburton

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 30 Mar 2019 10:16

Name: William Turk
Gender: Male
Event Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 14 Feb 1831
Marriage Place: Gloucester, St Mary de Lode, Gloucestershire, England
Spouse: Mary Bick


1851
Name: William Turk
Age: 40
Estimated birth year: abt 1811
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Mary Turk
Gender: Male
Where born: Minsterworth, Gloucestershire, England
Civil Parish: Newnham
Ecclesiastical parish: Forest
Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps:
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Town: Newnham
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England

Registration district: Westbury On Severn
Sub-registration district: Newnham
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 145
Piece: 1959
Folio: 76
Page Number: 45
Household Members:
Name Age
William Turk 40
Mary Turk 47
Mary Turk 16
Ellen Turk 12
John Turk 10
Elizabeth Turk 5
Alfred Henry Turk 1


TURK Alfred Henry (MMN) BICK 1849 Forest of Dean Westbury on Severn, Newnham 10 44

supercrutch

supercrutch Report 30 Mar 2019 10:37

Thanks for replies, I’ll answer when I’m home later

X

supercrutch

supercrutch Report 30 Mar 2019 18:03

Thank you ErikaH that information is great. I did realise William was illegitimate but hadn't found a parent when I logged off last night.

I have a lot more work to do now, thank you again.

Sue

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 30 Mar 2019 18:08

You’re welcome :-)