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Hello
Iam looking for a marriage for Alice Sale or Seal to an Edwards
in the Manchester Area around 1910/11
Thank you

Can you tell us a little more about Alice please? What year was she born?

Not seeing anything under Sale or Seal. Do you know the ? Edwards first name please?

Are you investigating this birth ?

Births Mar 1916 (>99%)
Edwards Thomas [mms Sale ] Leigh 8c 529


Sadly, his death:

Thomas Edwards
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: Thomas Edwards
Death Age: 0
Birth Date: abt 1916
Registration Date: Mar 1916
Registration district: Leigh
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 8c
Page: 361


If that's where you're getting the names from, it's possible that Alice and Mr Edwards didn't marry.
Or perhaps she'd been married before, and therefore her marriage to Edwards could have been under a different surname.

Sorry she was born 1910/11 ,,,ALICE EDWARDS its her mum I am looking for she was a SALE/SEAL married EDWARDS about 1910 Manchester area
Sorry for the mix up
Someone in the family told me going back they came from north Wales but not sure about that
Thank you

I don't see any birth of an Alice Edwards with mms Sale or similar, from 1907 onwards.

What else can you tell us about either Alice or her mother?


EDIT:

Ah, this one??

EDWARDS, ALICE mms SALE
GRO Reference: 1906 M Quarter in LEIGH Volume 08C Page 389

Might she have been a sister of the Thomas I posted earlier??

Possible marriage of parents:

Marriages Dec 1899 (>99%)
Edwards Thomas Leigh 8c 418
SALE Fanny Leigh 8c 418

could this be alice

England and Wales Census, 1911





Name: Alice Edwards
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1911
Event Place: Stretford, Manchester, Lancashire, England
County: Lancashire
Parish: Stretford
Sub-District: Stretford
Sub-District Number: 3
District Number: 463
Enumeration District: 16
Registration District: Barton Upon Irwell
Gender: Female
Age: 0
Number in Family: 4
Birth Year (Estimated): 1911
Birthplace: Trafford Park Manchester, Lancashire
Relationship to Head of Household: Daughter
Schedule Type: 366
Page Number: 1
Registration Number: RG14
Piece/Folio: 731
Affiliate Record Identifier: GBC/1911/RG14/23638/0731/4
Household Role Sex Age Birthplace
Thomas Edwards Head Male 29 Derby, Derbyshire
Eliza Alice Edwards Wife Female 26 Ardwick Manchester, Lancashire
Annie Edwards Daughter Female 7 Ardwick Manchester, Lancashire
Alice Edwards Daughter Female 0 Trafford Park Manchester, Lancashire

??

Alice Edwards
in the 1911 England Census
Name: Alice Edwards
Age in 1911: 5
Estimated birth year: abt 1906
Relation to Head: Daughter
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Atherton, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Tyldesley with Shakerley
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address: 13 Ashwell St Tyldesley
Registration district: Leigh
Registration District Number: 460
Sub-registration district: Atherton
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Piece: 23244
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Edwards 35 - Llangollen
Fanny Edwards 34 - Cefn Mawr
Annie Edwards 10 - Llangollen
Margaret Edwards 7 - Atherton, Lancs
Alice Edwards 5

Fanny Edwards
in the 1901 England Census
Name: Fanny Edwards
Age: 24
Estimated birth year: abt 1877
Relation to Head: Wife
Gender: Female
Spouse: Thomas Edwards
Birth Place: Ruston, Denbighshire, Wales
Civil Parish: Atherton
Ecclesiastical parish: Hindsford St Anne
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address:
Registration district: Leigh
Sub-registration district: Atherton
ED, institution, or vessel: 01
Neighbors:
Piece: 3595
Folio: 13
Page Number: 18
Household schedule number: 103
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Edwards 25
Fanny Edwards 24
Ann Edwards 11/12

DORA
Last name EDWARDS
Birth year 1908
Birth quarter 2
Registration month -
Mother's maiden name Sale
District Leigh
County Lancashire
Country England
Volume 8C
Page 330

Name: Dora Edwards
Estimated birth year: abt 1908
Registration Year: 1909
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Age at Death: 1
Registration district: Leigh
Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 8c
Page: 193

1911 says Thomas and Fanny had had 6 children but 2 had died.

EDWARDS, MARGARET SALE
GRO Reference: 1902 M Quarter in LEIGH Volume 08C Page 326

Death of the first Margaret:
Deaths Jun 1903 (>99%)
Edwards Margaret 1 Leigh 8c 194

EDWARDS, ALICE SALE
GRO Reference: 1906 M Quarter in LEIGH Volume 08C Page 389

Birth of the Margaret in 1911 census:

EDWARDS, MARGARET GALE
GRO Reference: 1904 M Quarter in LEIGH Volume 08C Page 345

EDWARDS, DORA SALE
GRO Reference: 1908 J Quarter in LEIGH Volume 08C Page 330

Dora's death:

Deaths Jun 1909 (>99%)
EDWARDS Dora 1 Leigh 8c 193

there is this one
ALICE
Last name EDWARDS
Birth year 1906
Birth quarter 1
Registration month -
Mother's maiden name -
District Leigh
County Lancashire
Country England
Volume 8C
Page 339
Record set England & Wales Births 1837-2006

EDWARDS, ALICE SALE
GRO Reference: 1906 M Quarter in LEIGH Volume 08C Page 389

The other children:

EDWARDS, ANN SALE
GRO Reference: 1900 J Quarter in CORWEN Volume 11B Page 354

Possibly?? but that would make three children dead :

EDWARDS, LILY SALE
GRO Reference: 1900 M Quarter in WREXHAM Volume 11B Page 236

Death:

EDWARDS, LILY 0
GRO Reference: 1900 D Quarter in WREXHAM Volume 11B Page 167

THOMAS
Last name EDWARDS
Marriage quarter 4
Marriage year 1899
Registration month -

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THOMAS EDWARDS married one of these people

Fanny Sale, Fanny Gale, Ann Ferris
District Leigh
District number -
County Lancashire
Country England
Volume 8C
Volume as transcribed 8C
Page number 418

1881
Name: Fanny Sale
Age: 4
Estimated birth year: abt 1877
Relationship to Head: Daughter
Father: Charles Sale
Mother: Ann Sale
Gender: Female
Where born: Wales
Civil Parish: Tyldesley cum Shakerley
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address: 42 Green Bank St
Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Leigh
ED, institution, or vessel: 18
Neighbors:
Piece: 3811
Folio: 81
Page Number: 16
Household Members:
Name Age
Charles Sale 27
Ann Sale 28
George Edwards 6 stepson, son of ann
Fanny Sale 4
Mary Kinstyn 41
David Kinstyn 14
Robert Pritchard 28
Richard Hulston 22

Name: Charles Sale
Registration Year: 1875
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Registration district: Wrexham
Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County: Denbighshire
Volume: 11b
Page: 481
Records on Page:
Name
Ann Edwards --------------
Richard Jones
Jane Anne Morris
Charles Sale

Ann Elizabeth
Last name Edwards
Gender Female
Birth year -
Birth place -
Baptism year 1854
Baptism date 14 May 1854
Place Liverpool
County Lancashire
Country England
Father's first name(s) Griffith
Father's last name Edwards
Mother's first name(s) Mary
Mother's last name

1911
Name: Ann Sale
Age in 1911: 57
Estimated birth year: abt 1854
Relation to Head: Wife
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Liverpool
Civil Parish: Atherton
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County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address: 5 Robert St Hindsford Atherton
Marital status: Married
Registration district: Leigh
Registration District Number: 460
Sub-registration district: Atherton
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Piece: 23232
Household Members:
Name Age
Charles Sale 57
Ann Sale 57
Edwin Sale 21
Caroline Sale 19
Charles Henry Sale 13

Name: Annie Elizabeth Sale
Gender: Female
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Spouse: Charles Sale
Child: George William Sale

Surprising what you can find with a bit more info. :-D

1861
Name: Charles Sale
Age: 7
Estimated birth year: abt 1854
Relation: Son
Father's name: John Leek
Mother's name: Francess Leek
Gender: Male
Where born: Ruabon, Denbighshire, Wales
Civil Parish or Township: Ruabon
Ecclesiastical parish: Rhosymedre
County/Island: Denbighshire
Country: Wales
Street address: View image
Condition as to marriage: View image
Education: View image
Employment status: View image
Occupation: View image
Registration district: Wrexham
Sub-registration district: Ruabon
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Household schedule number: 247
Neighbors:
Piece: 4281
Folio: 49
Page Number: 46
Household Members:
Name Age
John Leek 36
Francess Leek 38
Elizabeth Sale 17
Caroline Sale 9
Charles Sale 7
Ann Sale 3
Edwin Leek 5/12
Edward Williams 60


Name: John Leek
Registration Year: 1866
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration district: Wrexham
Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County: Denbighshire
Volume: 11b
Page: 453
Records on Page:
Name
David Jones
John Leek
Frances Seale -------------------
Sarah E Tobin

Name: Frances Williams
Registration Year: 1844
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration district: Wrexham
Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County: Denbighshire
Volume: 27
Page: 343
Records on Page:

Thomas Sale

Thank you everyone

from Lancashire bmd ..............

they either got married in Leigh Registery Office, or in a Catholic or other non-CofE church

Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1899

EDWARDS Thomas SALE Fanny Leigh Register Office or Registrar Attended Wigan & Leigh ROL/56/174