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They did not marry until 1944.

Marriages Jun 1944 (>99%)
THOMPSON Lilian M Walker Basford 7b 480
WALKER James Thompson Basford 7b 480

I was born in England and before we left he found his sister and called on her. I know he didn’t see his mum again. What is sad is that we didn’t get to meet her. I would have loved to have heard her side of things. It seems from that newspaper article that she was with and married Mr Walker later in life. Did Dad have a happy life? Well he married my mum and they had 12 children.. he was always looking for something over the next hill. I know he tried to find his brothers. Like him maybe they changed their names as well.
Dawnie.

What a very sad and unpleasant childhood he must have had - I hope he managed some happiness in later life............

Did he manage to have any later contact with his siblings?

Dea x

Thank you for that link.. wow it is there in print.. my Dad would have been 7. That is his family..he said he had to live in empty houses and rooms. I think the family have been in that part of England for some time. Dawnie..

Looks like this newspaper article from the Nottingham Journal 22 October 1937 could be about your family?

https://www.genesreunited.co.uk/keepsafe/asset/details/90859961

Dea x

What I would really like to know was why were the children put in into care and my fathers opion of his mother so bad. I know the times were hard but it really affected him. Maybe no one can answer that question now. Just the fact that James Alwyn and Lillian bean have so many descendants not living in England. Dawnie

Yes - he was registered as Leonard Thompson and also as Leonard Annable - the mother's maiden name for both being Binkley.

Dea x

Wow..I am now really confused. I was just looking for family members of my dad side of my family. He left England and didn’t really talk much about his life in England. I am not sure if his family even remember him. I was so long ago. He was put up for adoption and the brothers and sister were split up. I know Mum and dad spoke of Sutton in Ashfield where they used to live.. I have not known grand parents or cousins. I know James had more children after he was born. He was born in 1930. Thanks Dawnie.

This is her then - daughter of Edith and George just before their marriage:

Which brings us back to this birth posted above by Alviegal :

BEAN, LILIAN MAY BINKLEY -
GRO Reference: 1899 J Quarter in MANSFIELD Volume 07B Page 120

and Erika's previously posted 1916 marriage for Lilian M B Bean to Ambrose Thompson.

Dea x

Marriages Sep 1899 (>99%)
Bean Edith Mansfield 7b 153 Scan available - click to view
BERRY George Binkley Mansfield 7b 153 Scan available - click to view

This is SUCH a confusing family - I have quite forgotten what it is I am looking for :-S :-D

What is it that you already know Dawnie and what exactly do you hope to find out please?

Dea x

Ah yes! - this is the family:

1911 Census For England & Wales

46 Huthwaite Road Sutton in Ashfield, Sutton in Ashfield, Nottinghamshire, England
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Ida Binkley's Household Members
Members that resided in the household at the time of the census.
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
G Binkley Head Married Male 33 1878 Miner Onsetter Below Ground Notts Sutton I0n Ash
E Binkley Wife Married Female 31 1880 - Notts Sutton in Ash
Nelly Binkley Daughter - Female 13 1898 Hosiery Factory Hand Seamer Notts Sutton in Ash
Lilly Binkley Daughter - Female 11 1900 - Notts Sutton in Ash
Ida Binkley Daughter - Female 9 1902 - Notts Sutton in Ash
Gerty Binkley Daughter - Female 7 1904 - Notts Sutton in Ash
Herbert Binkley Son - Male 5 1906 - Notts Sutton in Ash
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Births Mar 1902 (>99%)
Berry Ida Binkley Mansfield 7b 117 Scan available - click to view
Births Dec 1903 (>99%)
BERRY Alfred Binkley Mansfield 7b 139 Scan available - click to view
Births Jun 1904 (>99%)
Berry Gertrude Binkley Mansfield 7b 116 Scan available - click to view
Births Mar 1906 (>99%)
Berry Herbert Binkley Mansfield 7b 125 Scan available - click to view
Births Sep 1906 (>99%)
Berry Jesse Binkley Mansfield 7b 131 Scan available - click to view
Births Dec 1908 (>99%)
Berry Emma Binkley Mansfield 7b 125 Scan available - click to view


BERRY, IDA BINKLEY BEAN
GRO Reference: 1902 M Quarter in MANSFIELD Volume 07B Page 117


They are called 'Berry' in 1902:

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census

Litchfields Yard, Forest Street, Sutton in Ashfield, Mansfield, Nottinghamshire, England
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Lily Berry's Household Members
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First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
George Berry Head Married Male 24 1877 Coal Hewer Under Ground Sutton in Ashfield, Nottinghamshire, England
Edith Berry Wife Married Female 21 1880 - Sutton in Ashfield, Nottinghamshire, England
Lily Berry Daughter - Female 1 1900 - Sutton in Ashfield, Nottinghamshire, England
Lesley B Berry Son - Male 0 1901 - Sutton in Ashfield, Nottinghamshire, England
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Dea x

Well, there is obviously some connection to this family as it has all the names in it :

BERRY, JOHN WILLIAM BINKLEY THOMPSON
GRO Reference: 1881 J Quarter in MANSFIELD Volume 07B Page 87



1911 Census For England & Wales
16 Lougden Terrace Stanton Hill Nottinghamshire, Skegby, Nottinghamshire, England

John Willie Binkley Berry's Household Members
Members that resided in the household at the time of the census.
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
John Willie Binkley Berry Head Married Male 29 1882 Coal Miner Hewer Sutton in Ashfield Notts
Lily Binkley Berry Wife Married Female 27 1884 - Sutton in Ashfield Notts
John George Binkley Berry Son - Male 9 1902 - Sutton in Ashfield Notts
Jess Binkley Berry Son - Male 4 1907 - Sutton in Ashfield Notts
Emma Binkley Berry Daughter - Female 2 1909 - Skegby Notts
John Willie Binkley Berry Son - Male 1 1910 - Skegby Notts

I have lost the 'Bean' connection at the minute - I will go and find it again.


Dea x

What I find interesting is the occupation of the families.. mining is in the blood.

Thank you for the info. My dad was born Leonard Annable Thompson. His mother had other babies named with other surnames.. Brinkley berry or bean along side Thompson. He changed his name when he was older..I don’t think he liked his Mum because he never spoke of her much. Thank Dawnie..

LILIAN MAY B
Last name BEAN
Birth year 1899
Birth quarter 2
Registration month -
Mother's maiden name -
District Mansfield
County Nottinghamshire
Country England
Volume 7B
Page 120


or from the gro.

BEAN, LILIAN MAY BINKLEY -
GRO Reference: 1899 J Quarter in MANSFIELD Volume 07B Page 120

Any thoughts, Dawnie, on the info found for you?

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Your editing, alviegal, makes my posts look faintly ridiculous

Deaths Dec 1981 (>99%)
ANNABLE BEATRICE MAY 8AP1914 BELPER 6 130

I have tracked down a couple of relatives. I know James and Lillian were not married to each other but between all of them had at least 21 children. I know james had ex wives and Lillian had other husbands. I would like to know more about what their lives and their parents lives would have been like. Who my relatives are and who do I look like.. Thanks Dawnie

1939

Annable Household (4 People)
25 Meden Bank , Sutton-in-Ashfield U.D., Nottinghamshire, England


James A Annable 19 Nov 1884 Male Colliery Drift Worker Underground Married 107 1
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Olive Waterfield 14 Dec 1917 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Single 107 3
John G Thompson 27 Jan 1874 Male Colliery Haulage Hand Unemployed Underground Widowed 107 4