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10 Mar 2019 09:49 |
Great work Choccy,
Looks like Mary Jane was in the workhouse in 1911 (in 1891 she's with Charles and gives her birth place as Shepton Mallett):
Name: Mary Mills Age in 1911: 48 Estimated birth year: abt 1863 Relation to Head: Inmate Gender: Female Birth Place: Somerset, England Civil Parish: Islington County/Island: London Street address: Islington Workhouse, St John's Road, Upper Holloway N Marital status: Married Years Married: 22 Estimated Marriage Year: 1889 Occupation: FORMERLY HOUSEMAID DOMESTIC Registration district: Islington Registration District Number: 10 Sub-registration district: Upper Holloway ED, institution, or vessel: 21-26 Piece: 820 ---------------------------------------
Looks like Mary and John Stanley (listed under Mills were in and out the workhouse for a time:
London, England, Workhouse Admission and Discharge Records
Name: Mary J Mills age 50 Name: John S Mills age 12 Record Type: Admission Birth Date: abt 1899 Admission Date: 11 Dec 1911 Admission Place: Islington, Islington, London, England --------------------------
Mary's baptism:
Name: Mary Jane Maslen Birth Date: 13 Mar 1861 Baptism Date: 7 Apr 1861 Baptism Place: Shepton Mallet, Somerset, England Father: Joseph Maslen Mother: Jane Maslen --------------------------------
Possible death of Joseph (he's listed as Joseph Thomas on the marriage of son Joseph Thomas):
Name: Joseph T Wood Estimated birth year: abt 1868 Registration Year: 1910 Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep Age at Death: 42 Registration district: Islington Inferred County: London Volume: 1b Page: 109
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10 Mar 2019 08:02 |
British Army WWI Pension Records 1914-1920
Name John Stanley Wood
Gender Male Birth Place Islington, Middlesex, England Document Year 1915 Regimental Number 15489 Regiment Name Duke of Cambridge's Own (Middlesex) Regiment Form Title Short Service Attestation Number of Images 12 Other Records John Stanley Wood
Name John Stanley Wood
>>>>>>>>>>>Name Mrs Mary Jane Hills (mother)
Address - 53 Woodland Place, Muswell Hill
MADE A MIS-STATEMENT AS TO AGE ON ENLISTMENT AND DISCHARGED!
NB I can find no record of a marriage between Joseph Wood and Mary Maslen, but there is this -
London, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1932
Name: Mary Jane Maslen
Gender: Female
Marriage Age: 26
Record Type: Marriage
Birth Date: abt 1862
Marriage Date: 17 Jun 1888
Marriage Place: All Saints, Walworth, Southwark, England
Father: Joseph Maslen
>>>>>>>Spouse: Charles James Mills
Register Type: Parish Register
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Dea
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10 Mar 2019 07:56 |
Looking at the death record posted by Erika above, there seem to be 2 deaths for people with that name and date of birth?
Robert Burns in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007 England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007 No Image
Name: Robert Burns Death Age: 86 Birth Date: 6 Dec 1899 Registration Date: Mar 1986 Registration district: Barrow In Furness Inferred County: Cumbria Volume: 1 Page: 129
Robert John S Burns in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007 View England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: Robert John S Burns Death Age: 78 Birth Date: 6 Dec 1899 Registration Date: Sep 1978 Registration district: Aylesbury Inferred County: Buckinghamshire Volume: 19 Page: 0738
The other one in 1986 does not have the middle names but it is in Barrow in Furness ??
Do you know when and where he died please Gerry?
Dea x
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10 Mar 2019 07:28 |
London, England, Church of England Births and Baptisms, 1813-1917
Name: John Stanley Wood
Baptism Age: 6
Record Type: Baptism
Birth Date: 22 Jan 1900
Baptism Date: 20 Jan 1907
Baptism Place: St Mary, Islington, Islington, England
Father: Joseph Wood
Mother: Mary Wood
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10 Mar 2019 07:24 |
Could this be him? (Wood was an alternative surname on his marriage)
WOOD, JOHN STANLEY MASLEN GRO Reference: 1900 M Quarter in ISLINGTON Volume 01B Page 333
London, England, London Transport Staff Registers, 1863-1931
Name John Stanley Wood
Age 16
Occupation Temporary Jun Porter
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Birth Date 22 Jan 1900<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Employment Date 7 Nov 1916
Employment Place London, England
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SylviaInCanada
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10 Mar 2019 03:35 |
To teat Kay's find .................
from GRO Index ........
BURNS, ROBERT mmn SHARP GRO Reference: 1900 M Quarter in ULVERSTON Volume 08E Page 823
or there is also this one ............
Births Sep 1899 (>99%) Burns John Robert Ulverston 8e 810
BURNS, JOHN ROBERT mmn GREENWOOD GRO Reference: 1899 S Quarter in ULVERSTON Volume 08E Page 810
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10 Mar 2019 00:56 |
Births Mar 1900 (>99%)
Burns Robert Ulverston 8e 823.
Ulverston is about 25miles from Barrow-in Furness.
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ArgyllGran
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9 Mar 2019 18:29 |
VERY long shot that he might have born in Scotland! This man didn't die in Scotland.
Birth:
BURNS ROBERT JOHN M 1900 639/ 45 Dalziel
But it's not an uncommon name.
That's probably this child:
Robert J Burns in the 1901 Scotland Census Name: Robert J Burns Age: 1 Estimated birth year: abt 1900 Relationship: Son Father's name: Robert Burns Mother's name: Frances Burns Gender: Male Where born: Lanarkshire, Motherwell Registration Number: 639 Registration district: Dalziel Civil Parish: Dalziel Town: Motherwell County: Lanarkshire Address: 35 Roman Rd ED: 7 Household schedule number: 24 Line: 4 Roll: CSSCT1901_259 Household Members: Name Age Robert Burns 37 Frances Burns 31 Arthur C Burns 3 Robert J Burns 1
Robert John Burns in the British Army WWI Service Records, 1914-1920 Name: Robert John Burns Gender: Male Birth Date: abt 1900 Enlistment Age: 18 Document Year: 1918 Residence Place: Glengonnar North St, Mobberwell Lanarkshire Regimental Number: 54739 Number of Images: 15 Form Title: Record of Service Family Members: Name Relation to Soldier Robert John Burns Self (Head) France Burns Mother
Occupation: apprentice pattern maker
EDIT:
NO, this isn't your Robert.
This one emigrated to the USA in 1923, and is on US censuses 1930 and 1940.
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9 Mar 2019 18:25 |
The 1939 correction also includes the initial A:
Robert John Stanley A Burns
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Gerry
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9 Mar 2019 14:23 |
Yes Gwyn that his the marriage I think the correction must have been attributed to the father as otherwise there would have been no need for it
Looks like I am going to have to get marriage cert and hope it helps
Thank you all for your input
Gerry
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9 Mar 2019 14:11 |
Looking at the image for 1939 it may be they have amended the wrong record - his son was listed as Robert J S Burns (1923 birth) - father Robert provided no further initials or names on his entry. However the later correction was attributed to the father?
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9 Mar 2019 14:03 |
No birth in Barrow under Wood or Burns according to Cumbriabmd (which is quite comprehensive) - or at least not with the additional christian names - which he didn't use when he married. Maybe he added the other names later?
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Gwyn in Kent
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9 Mar 2019 13:59 |
Is this the marriage?
From freebmd
Marriages Mar 1923
Burns Robert .. Mitchell .. Pancras 1b 111
Mitchell Lilian E ..Burns ..Pancras 1b 111
Mitchell Lilian E .. Wood Pancras 1b 111
Wood Robert ..Mitchell .. Pancras 1b 111
If this is the correct marriage, it would seem that he was also known as WOOD at some time.
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9 Mar 2019 13:51 |
Name: Robert John S Burns Death Age: 78 Birth Date: 6 Dec 1899 Registration Date: Sep 1978 Registration district: Aylesbury Inferred County: Buckinghamshire Volume: 19 Page: 0738
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ErikaH
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9 Mar 2019 13:48 |
His marriage cert will tell you his father's details - if he knew him
Presumably, you've looked for his birth on freebmd?
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Gerry
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9 Mar 2019 13:37 |
Robert was born, according to 1939 census, 22/1/1900. He married Lilian Mitchell 1923
However, I cannot find/identify Robert in order to move on. The family THINK he was born in Barrow in Furness. He also, apparently, frequently lied about his age!
Can anyone please find what I am obviously missing?
Gerry
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