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Denise
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1 Mar 2019 18:12 |
Thank you both. So Winifred was married before and a widow at 24 then she married Edward Beaman.
Regarding Margaret, the 1911 census has her birth as 1897, but 1901 census as 1894.
Definitely know that John Edward was 1899. Wish he would have talked about his family, but you couldn't draw him on anything. When he died in 1970, understand that a brother came to the funeral but not Margaret.
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1 Mar 2019 18:12 |
Could this possibly be Winifred and Family in 1851?? Irish accent talking to a Yorkshireman
1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census 9, Back York Street, Leeds, Yorkshire & Yorkshire (West Riding), England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place John Tansey Head Married Male 50 1801 Labourer Ireland Yeaney Tansey Wife Married Female 42 1809 - Ireland Charles Tansey Son Unmarried Male 23 1828 None (Criple) Leeds, Yorkshire, England Lawrence Tansey Son Unmarried Male 11 1840 None (Criple) Leeds, Yorkshire, England Michael Tansey Son Unmarried Male 9 1842 None (Criple) Leeds, Yorkshire, England Ann Tansey Daughter Unmarried Female 15 1836 Labourer Lame Leeds, Yorkshire, England Young Fett Tansey Daughter Unmarried Female 1 1850 - Leeds, Yorkshire, England
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1 Mar 2019 18:00 |
Winifred born a bit earlier than the 1881 census suggests
Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: TANSEY, WINIFRED ARMSTRONG GRO Reference: 1850 M Quarter in LEEDS Volume 23 Page 419
--------------------------- 1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Back of York Street, Leeds, Yorkshire & Yorkshire (West Riding), England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Thomas Peacock Head - Male 20 1851 - Yorkshire, England Winifred Peacock Wife - Female 20 1851 - Yorkshire, England
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1 Mar 2019 17:57 |
1871 Name: Winifred Peacock Age: 20 Estimated birth year: abt 1851 Relation: Wife Spouse's name: Thomas Peacock Gender: Female Where born: Leeds, Yorkshire, England Civil Parish: Leeds Ecclesiastical parish: Leeds Town: Leeds County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Registration district: Leeds Sub-registration district: North Leeds ED, institution, or vessel: 2 Household schedule number: 25 Piece: 4551 Folio: 19 Page Number: 6 Household Members: Name Age Thomas Peacock 20 Winifred Peacock 20
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1 Mar 2019 17:56 |
If this is the correct birth reg. for Clara and the marriage posted by ErikaH is correct then Winifred was previously married?
Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: BEAUMONT, CLARA TANZEY GRO Reference: 1879 D Quarter in LEEDS Volume 09B Page 432
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Surname First name(s) District Vol Page Marriages Dec 1870 (>99%) CROWTHER Joe Leeds 9b 641 PEACOCK Thomas Leeds 9b 641 SELLERS Emma Leeds 9b 641 TANSEY Winifred Leeds 9b 641
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1 Mar 2019 17:56 |
Name: Winifred Tansey Marriage Age: 20 Event Type: Marriage Birth Year: abt 1850 Marriage Date: 24 Dec 1870 Marriage Place: Leeds, St Peter, Yorkshire, England Father: John Tansey Spouse: Thomas Peacock
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ErikaH
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1 Mar 2019 17:53 |
Margaret was born 1894 at the latest
Winifred was married BEFORE she married Edward
Name: Winifred Peacock********WIDOW Marriage Age: 24 Event Type: Marriage Birth Year: abt 1853 Marriage Date: 19 Mar 1877 Marriage Place: Batley, All Saints, Yorkshire, Englan
Father: John Tansey Spouse: Edward Bamen
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Denise
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1 Mar 2019 17:37 |
Possibly be Margaret's mother as in 1897 she would have been 17/18. Wonder if the marriage had to be due to pregnancy. definitely not mother of Thomas. Found that Edward Beaman married a Winifred (according to birth of Sarah, mother's maiden name was Tanzie but could be a Tansey if misspelt).
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1 Mar 2019 17:32 |
For info - and to help others
Name: Edward Bamen Marriage Age: 20 Event Type: Marriage Birth Year: abt 1857 Marriage Date: 19 Mar 1877 Marriage Place: Batley, All Saints, Yorkshire, England
Father: John Bamen Spouse: Winifred Peacock
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ErikaH
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1 Mar 2019 17:30 |
1881
Balaclava Terrace, West Ardsley, Wakefield, Yorkshire & Yorkshire (West Riding), England
Edward Beaman Head Married Male 24 1857 Coal Miner Stafford, Staffordshire, England Winifred Beaman Wife Married Female 28 1853 - Leeds, Yorkshire, England Clara Beaman Daughter Single Female 1 1880 - Leeds, Yorkshire, England
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1 Mar 2019 17:26 |
Neither Thomas nor Margaret can be Clara's children unless she was giving birth at the age of approx 13
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Denise
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1 Mar 2019 17:18 |
Yes she was born in 1879/1880, so 1891 census would be correct. Looks like the 1901 census filled in wrongly' maybe to make Thomas look legitimate?
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Denise
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1 Mar 2019 17:16 |
Hi ErikaH 1901 Census. Ah, spellings make all the difference! Thank you so much.
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1 Mar 2019 17:13 |
Clara's age is wrong in 1901, if this is correct
1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Australia Street, Seaham, Easington, Durham, England
Edward Beaman Head Married Male 34 1857 Coal Miner Staffordshire, England Winifred Beaman Wife Married Female 38 1853 - Yorkshire, England William Beaman Son - Male 17 1874 Coal Miner Yorkshire, England Clara Beaman Daughter - Female 11 1880 - Yorkshire, England Sarah Beaman Daughter - Female 2 1889 - Northumberland, England
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1 Mar 2019 17:07 |
Marriages Sep 1896 (>99%) Beaman Clara Sunderland 10a 922 DAVISON John Sunderland 10a 922
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1 Mar 2019 17:03 |
FMP version of 1901
1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census 8, Fourth Street, Crofton, Wakefield, Yorkshire & Yorkshire (West Riding), England
John Davinson Head Married Male 28 1873 Coal Miner Hewer (Below) Durham, England Clara Davinson Wife Married Female 27 1874 - Leeds, Yorkshire, England Thomas Davinson Son Single Male 11 1890 - Durham, England Margaret Davinson Daughter - Female 7 1894 - Royston, Yorkshire, England John E Davinson Son - Male 5 1896 - Yorkshire, England William Davinson Son - Male 3 1898 - Crofton, Yorkshire, England Edward Beman Boarder Married Male 46 1855 Coal Miner Hewer Staffordshire, England Winifred Beman Boarders Wife Married Female 47 1854 - Leeds, Yorkshire, England Sarah Beman Boarders Daur Single Female 14 1887 - Bingley, Yorkshire, England William Driscol Boarder Single Male 23 1878 Coal Miner Hewer -
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Denise
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1 Mar 2019 16:53 |
Thank you. Will have a look at both of them. Ancestry seems good with the trial period. If you are willing to help (but please don't go out of your way) then any info on: John Davison b1873, Seaham Harbour. Think he died in 1907 in Tynemouth. Know about his parents, Matthew and Isabella and siblings. Mainly info on: He married Clara Beaman in Sunderland in 1896. They had Thomas (b1890 or 1894 Seaham Harbour or Nostel) (think to a different wife as Cara would be too young at 11/15 and unmarried or maybe?). Margaret Ann Davison (b1897 Royston, Barnsley). William Davison (b1898 Crofton, Wakefield). John Edward Davison (b1899, Monk Bretton, Barnsley). Know about John Edward as grandfather but he wouldn't talk about his family, so all a blank about others. They don't come up on Genes on any searches we've done and visited Rotherham archives and no mention there. Only know as a child that Aunty Maggie used to visit, so assume it was Margaret Ann Davison. Have written down the 1901 census for the family, but it doesn't come up on Genes at all. There was John, Clara, Thomas, Margaret, John Edward, William, Edward Beaman (father in law), Winifred Beaman (mother in law), Sarah Beaman (eventual Sarah Roper). Know in 1911 that John Edward was living with Edward Beaman and Winifred Beaman (though she died in April 1911) at 2 Tusmore St, Rotherham. We've info on 1911 for Clara and family. Don't know what happened to John and Clara after 1901 except they were no longer together and think John went back to the North East (possibly parents). Clara married a John Edward Trueman (lots of info on this now from another member). Much appreciated what you have done so far. Just a point in the right direction will do. Don't expect you to do all the work.
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ErikaH
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1 Mar 2019 16:07 |
I use both Find my Past and Ancestry.co.uk
Both cost over £100 per year, although you can get a two week free trial with Ancestry if you register your credit card with them. Don't forget to cancel if you go down that route!
But people on here love to help, so unless you particularly want to find the info yourself, (many people do) post your specific queries and see what happens
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Denise
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1 Mar 2019 15:55 |
Hi ErikaH Anything you would recommend that is better than Genes?
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ErikaH
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1 Mar 2019 15:49 |
Genes is not the best place for research Most people just have basic membership here and use it as a sounding board.
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