Find Ancestors

Looking at the year of birth for the grandchildren, I wonder if they could be great grandchildren?

On the Ellison family tombstone in Killeshill, Dungannon - http://prntscr.com/mphiff - there are a couple of Bleakley children. I can't find them, or their connection to the Ellisons. Any ideas please?

Well, if you really mean it. I will start a new thread for Johann Karl Wilhelm Gobel.

Always look forward to a challenge Jan :-)

That is so kind of you, I was worried I had been asking too much of you. If you're not careful, I'll ask you to help with my German great grandfather :-)

That's good Jan. Hope it comes soon, looking forward to another Kelly hunt :-D

I sent them a copy of what it showed on FreeBMD, and have received a reply which looks as if they are going to send the certificate after all. Fingers crossed.

It's 915 on FindMyPast

MONTAGUE D
Last name HARRINGTON
Marriage quarter 1
Marriage year 1916
Registration month -

MarriageFinder ™
MONTAGUE D HARRINGTON married one of these people
Agnes M Kelly
Spouse's last name Kelly
District Chelsea
District number -
County London
Country England
Volume 1A
Volume as transcribed 1A
Page number 915
Record set England & Wales Marriages 1837-2005
Category Birth, Marriage & Death (Parish Registers)
Subcategory Civil Marriage & Divorce
Collections from Great Britain, England
© brightsolid online publishing ltd

Have looked at the images. Agnes's is clearly page 915 but the image for Montague's is blurred. Looking at the other numbers on the page, I think it should be 915. Pity, the GRO didn't look a page either side!

On Freebmd, one of them has the page number Mistranscribed. Agnes is page 915 and Montague is page 916. You could try reordering it with the other page number.

Well that's a blow - I've had an email from GRO saying they can't trace the marriage of Montague Harrington with Agnes Kelly. I copied all the details from FreeBMD, so can only assume they got it wrong somewhere. I was counting on that to give me Agnes' father's name and occupation - I think I might have found her, but without anything concrete to go on its very difficult.

First name(s)Agnes .
Last name Kelly .
Birth year 1886
Birth date 01 Jan 1886
Baptism year 1886
Baptism date 24 Jan 1886
Church Our Lady of Victories
Parish Kensington
Diocese Westminster
Deanery Kensington & Chelsea
Ecclesiastical province Westminster County Middlesex
Father's first name(s) Petri
Father's last name Kelly
Mother's first name(s) Bridget
Mother's last name Reddy

I had an amusing thought yesterday - wouldn't it be funny if Anne's paternal grandmother, Agnes M Kelly, was related to Peter Kelly; that her son Douglas was posted to Scotland during the war so went to visit his Scottish relations, and met and married Anne's mother there in 1944.

The daughter in law of Peter's son Peter has sent me a photograph of Peter Snr, so I'm passing that on to Anne today.

Maybe the 1841 enumerator got the daughters Harriet and Caroline mixed up ?

Maybe Harriet was born c1826.

Have you found her in later censuses?


EDIT:
No, forget that - she was born 1820:


Harriet Mary Cattell
England Births and Christenings
Name Harriet Mary Cattell
Gender Female
Christening Date 02 Jul 1820
Christening Date (Original) 02 JUL 1820
Christening Place SAINT JAMES,PADDINGTON,LONDON,ENGLAND
Birth Date 20 Mar 1820
Father's Name Richard Cattell
Mother's Name Harriott


Well, maybe he just wrote the wrong age for Caroline - grasping at straws.

It's not unheard of to have two children with the same name even though the older one hasn't died, though must have been confusing - or maybe CF was known as Frances!.

Thanks, I just found the christening record - but it seems they named 2 daughters Caroline

Caroline F actually born in 1821:


Caroline Frances Cattell
England Births and Christenings
Name Caroline Frances Cattell
Gender Female
Christening Date 30 Jun 1822
Christening Date (Original) 30 JUN 1822
Christening Place SAINT MARY-ST MARYLEBONE ROAD,ST MARYLEBONE,LONDON,ENGLAND
Birth Date 30 Sep 1821 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Father's Name Richard Cattell
Mother's Name Harriet

Its very strange, because there is the 1922 Caroline Frances as above, and also the 1926 Caroline. Caroline F went on to marry Charles Collins, and in her will it says she died at 65 Buckingham Palace Road.

Yes, that makes better sense, thanks.

Name Caroline Frances Cattell
Gender Female
Record Type Baptism
Baptism Date 30 Jun 1822
Baptism Place St Marylebone Westminster, England
Father Richard Cattell
Mother Harriet Cattell
Name
Caroline Frances Cattell
Name
Harriet Cattell
Name
Richard Cattell

It looks as if the name originally was Kettle :-)

St. Anne Westmister is where Emily's parents married. (See marriage posted earlier)

Think that's a mistransciption. More likely to be St. Ann's, Westminster.

I wonder if Henry was only baptised because his twin was sickly? Charlotte is not with the family in 1841.

Transcription:
Westminster Baptisms


First name(s) Charlotte
Last name Cattell
Birth year 1839
Birth date 26 Sep 1839
Baptism year 1839
Baptism date 10 Nov 1839
Father's first name(s) Richard
Mother's first name(s) Harriet
Parish St George, Hanover Square
County Middlesex
Country England
Page 286
Archive
City of Westminster Archives Centre
Record set Westminster Baptisms
Category Birth, Marriage & Death (Parish Registers)
Subcategory Parish Baptisms
Collections from England, Great Britain