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Catherine
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4 Feb 2019 21:50 |
possible marriage for Harriett
Name: Harriet Moore Gender: Female Record Type: Marriage Marriage Date: 31 Aug 1856 Marriage Place: St Mary, Newington, Southwark, England Father: William Moore Spouse: Thomas Newhouse Register Type: Parish Register
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1861 Name: Harriet Newhouse Age: 24 Estimated birth year: 1837 Relation: Wife Spouse's name: Thomas Newhouse Gender: Female Where born: Newington, Surrey, England Civil Parish: Southwark St George Ecclesiastical parish: St George County/Island: Surrey Country: England Street address: Registration district: St George Southwark Sub-registration district: London Road ED, institution, or vessel: 3 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 51 Piece: 332 Folio: 62 Page Number: 11 Household Members: Name Age Thomas Newhouse 29 - Cap Peak Maker Harriet Newhouse 24 - Cap Peak Stictcher
1871 Name: Harriet Newhouse Age: 34 Estimated birth year: abt 1837 Relation: Wife Spouse's name: Thomas Newhouse Gender: Female Where born: Newington, Surrey, England Civil Parish: St Mary Newington Ecclesiastical parish: Trinity County/Island: London Country: England Registration district: St Saviour Southwark Sub-registration district: Trinity Newington ED, institution, or vessel: 12 Household schedule number: 71 Piece: 611 Folio: 124 Page Number: 11 Household Members: Name Age Thomas Newhouse 39 Harriet Newhouse 34 Thomas Newhouse 9 Edward Newhouse 7 Emily Neal 2 Caroline Lee 42
1881 Name: Harriet Newhouse Age: 44 Estimated birth year: abt 1837 Relationship to Head: Wife Spouse: Thomas Newhouse Gender: Female Where born: Newington, Surrey, England Civil Parish: Newington County/Island: London Country: England Street address: 19 Wellington St Marital status: Married Registration district: St Saviour Southwark Sub registration district: Trinity Newington ED, institution, or vessel: 12 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 534 Folio: 87 Page Number: 8 Household Members: Name Age Thomas Newhouse 49 Harriet Newhouse 44 Thomas Newhouse 19 Edward Newhouse 17 Emily Newhouse 12 Ester Newhouse 7
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4 Feb 2019 21:10 |
On my earlier post of 14:04 I did post possible birth details for two of the children,, from the 1841 census. I'll post them again for you here:-
MOORE, WILLIAM (mmn BRITTON) Order GRO Reference: 1839 M Quarter in ST MARY NEWINGTON Volume 04 Page 355
MOORE, SARAH (mmn BRITTON) Order GRO Reference: 1841 M Quarter in ST MARY NEWINGTON Volume 04 Page 340
both give mother's maiden name as Britton.
I found the tree on Ancestry, they seem to be following the Britton family as they have lots of info on that line but nothing on William Moore.
There was another daughter but she won't show on any census records as she died young:-
MOORE, ANN BRITTON Order GRO Reference: 1845 S Quarter in ST MARY NEWINGTON Volume 04 Page 345
MOORE, ANN 5 Order GRO Reference: 1850 S Quarter in ST MARY NEWINGTON Volume 04 Page 238
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4 Feb 2019 19:53 |
Catherine - where did you see this tree? It may be the breakthrough I have been looking for C
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4 Feb 2019 19:52 |
I was thinking that perhaps Hannah was Britton and that she was Williams second wife but I can’t find the birth details of the older children nor the younger ones come to that. The first child MarybAnn was born around 1833.
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4 Feb 2019 17:28 |
A tree on ancestry has this for this family
Hannah Britton Spouse: William Moore
Father: Daniel Britton Mother: Hannah Meacham
Children: Mary Ann 1834– Sarah Moore 1836–1845 Harriet Moore 1836– William Moore 1838– Sarah Moore 1839– George Moore 1841–
Birth: 1807 Bristol Gloucestershire England Death: 04/1884 London England Residence: 1841 Newington Surrey England .............................
there is a baptism that would go with this info
Name: Hannah Britton Gender: Female Baptism Date: 19 Apr 1807 Baptism Place: Bristol, Gloucester, England Father: Daniel Britton Mother: Hannah FHL Film Number: 1596488
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4 Feb 2019 17:07 |
MOORE, GEORGE (mmn FRANCIS) Order GRO Reference: 1875 S Quarter in MILE END OLD TOWN Volume 01C Page 514
MOORE, MILLICENT ROSE (mmn FRANCIS) Order GRO Reference: 1876 S Quarter in SAINT SAVIOUR SURREY Volume 01D Page 111
MOORE, HORACE FREDERICK (mmn FRANCIS) Order GRO Reference: 1878 M Quarter in ST SAVIOUR Volume 01D Page 124
MOORE, PERCY WILLIAM (mmn FRANCIS) Order GRO Reference: 1880 J Quarter in SAINT SAVIOUR SURREY Volume 01D Page 137
so looks like George married a Mary Ann Francis
Marriages Mar 1873 (>99%) Francis Mary Ann Camberwell 1d 748 Moore George Camberwell 1d 748
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4 Feb 2019 16:24 |
I think the earliest a wedding would have been 1817 which would have put William as age 16
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4 Feb 2019 16:21 |
Thankyou, I had this but cannot find anything before the 1841 census. No marriage and nothing on their children. It’s so frustrating. Thanks again C
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4 Feb 2019 14:04 |
1861 for William and Hannah hasn't been posted so just posing this which looks to be them even though William's wife is noted as Sarah
1861 Name: Wm Moore Age: 44 Estimated birth year: 1817 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Sarah Moore Gender: Male Where born: Westminster, Middlesex, England Civil Parish: Newington St Mary Ecclesiastical parish: Walworth St John County/Island: Surrey Country: England Street address: 12a Banks Yard
Occupation: Fire Wood Cutter
Registration district: Newington Sub-registration district: St Peter Walworth ED, institution, or vessel: 49 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 30 Piece: 343 Folio: 96 Page Number: 6 Household Members: Name Age Wm Moore 44 Sarah Moore 48 - b. 1813 Bristol, Somerset Sarah Moore 19 - Cap Peak Binder b. 1842 Newington, Surrey George Moore 17 - Fire Wood Cutter b. 1844 Newington, Surrey
......................... 1881 Hannah is living with son George Name: George Moore Age: 35 Estimated birth year: abt 1846 Relationship to Head: Head Spouse: Mary Ann Moore Mother: Hannah Moore Gender: Male Where born: Lambeth Civil Parish: Newington County/Island: London Country: England Street address: 25 Bronte Plc Marital status: Married Occupation: Firewood Cutter (5 Men) (Mercht) Registration district: St Saviour Southwark Sub registration district: St Peter Walworth ED, institution, or vessel: 28 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 548 Folio: 27 Page Number: 47 Household Members: Name Age George Moore 35 Mary Ann Moore 38 ***** Hannah Moore 70 ***** (widow) George Moore 7 Millicent Moore 4 Horace Moore 3 Percy Moore 1 (not transcribed) ................................
wondering also if these may be relevant
possible death of Hannah MOORE, HANNAH aged 76 (dob 1808) GRO Reference: 1884 J Quarter in ST SAVIOUR SURREY Volume 01D Page 78 .....................
MOORE, WILLIAM (mmn BRITTON) Order GRO Reference: 1839 M Quarter in ST MARY NEWINGTON Volume 04 Page 355
MOORE, SARAH (mmn BRITTON) Order GRO Reference: 1841 M Quarter in ST MARY NEWINGTON Volume 04 Page 340
so could Hannah's maiden name be Britton?
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MargaretM
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3 Feb 2019 19:44 |
I stand corrected, I enlarged it and 18 it is.
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3 Feb 2019 19:28 |
Its 18 Symons St
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3 Feb 2019 17:38 |
George Moore in the London, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1932 Name: George Moore Gender: Male Record Type: Marriage Marriage Date: 1 Jan 1844 Marriage Place: St Luke, Chelsea, Kensington and Chelsea, England Father: Benjamin Moore Spouse: Mary Ann Fitchett Register Type: Parish Register
He's a gardener, his father a labourer, her father Stephen Fitchett a labourer. His address Blacklands? House, hers 1 Symons? St. Both of full age.
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3 Feb 2019 17:16 |
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this could be the above's marriage
Marriages Mar 1844 (>99%) ALEXANDER William Gooding Chelsea 3 19 BATSTONE Elizabeth Ashford Chelsea 3 19 CHALK William Mark Chelsea 3 19 FITCHETT Mary Ann Chelsea 3 19 xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx MAYLARD Charles Chelsea 3 19 MOORE George Chelsea 3 19 xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx STILES Sarah Jane Chelsea 3 19 WADERSON Caroline Augusta Chelsea 3 19
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3 Feb 2019 17:14 |
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Record Transcription: 1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Chapel Place, Kensington, London & Middlesex, England
Sarah Moore's Household Members Members that resided in the household at the time of the census. First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place George Moore Head Married Male 25 1826 Warehousewoman London, Middlesex, England Mary Ann Moore Wife Married Female 26 1825 - Oxfordshire, England Susan Moore Daughter - Female 5 1846 - Fulham, Middlesex, England Sarah Moore Daughter - Female 3 1848 - Lambeth, Surrey, England George Moore Son - Male 1 1850 - Lambeth, Surrey, England
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3 Feb 2019 16:27 |
MOORE, WILLIAM HENRY MMN FITCHETT Order GRO Reference: 1853 S Quarter in BRENTFORD Volume 03A Page 64
only death to fit for earlier William
MOORE, WILLIAM 11 Order GRO Reference: 1852 S Quarter in WHITECHAPEL Volume 01C Page 270
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3 Feb 2019 15:34 |
?? Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: MOORE, SARAH MARIA FITCHETT Order GRO Reference: 1848 J Quarter in LAMBETH Volume 04 Page 222
MOORE, GEORGE FITCHETT Order GRO Reference: 1850 M Quarter in LAMBETH Volume 04 Page 273
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3 Feb 2019 15:20 |
Record Transcription: 1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Thomas Street, St Mary Newington, Newington, London & Surrey, England
Mary Ann Moore's Household Members Members that resided in the household at the time of the census. First name(s) Last name Sex Age Birth year Birth place William Moore Male 26 1815 - Hannah Moore Female 30 1811 - Mary Ann Moore Female 7 1834 - Harriot Moore Female 5 1836 Surrey, England William Moore Male 3 1838 Surrey, England Sarah Moore Female 0 1841 Surrey, England
william is a wood cutter
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3 Feb 2019 15:16 |
1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census Thomas Street, St Mary Newington, Newington, London & Surrey, England
First name(s) Last name Sex Age Birth year Birth place William Moore Male 26 1815 - Hannah Moore Female 30 1811 - Mary Ann Moore Female 7 1834 - Harriot Moore Female 5 1836 Surrey, England William Moore Male 3 1838 Surrey, England Sarah Moore Female 0 1841 Surrey, England
Ages a bit out from 1851 census, but the original of that doesn't give George as aged 6 - possibly 0, especially as listed after 2 year old Sarah And if there is a Sarah aged 0 in 1841 then, she presumably has died and the 1851 Sarah b 1848/49 has been named for her
William a Wood Cutter
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3 Feb 2019 15:14 |
Record Transcription: 1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census
George Street, Saint Mary Newington, Newington, London & Surrey, England
George Moore's Household Members Members that resided in the household at the time of the census. First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place William Moore Head Married Male 34 1817 Wood Cutter Westminster, Middlesex, England Hannah Moore Wife Married Female 40 1811 - Westminster, Middlesex, England Mary Ann Moore Daughter Unmarried Female 18 1833 - Westminster, Middlesex, England Harriett Moore Daughter Unmarried Female 14 1837 - Newington, Surrey, England William Moore Son Unmarried Male 11 1840 - Newington, Surrey, England Sarah Moore Daughter Unmarried Female 2 1849 - Newington, Surrey, England George Moore Son Unmarried Male 6 1845 - Newington, Surrey, England
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3 Feb 2019 15:13 |
Born 4th quarter 1851 wouldn't be on 1851 census
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