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Pamela
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2 Feb 2019 15:35 |
I am wanting to order a copy of a Birth certificate for Mary Jane Hewitt born on 21st September 1870 in Maryport Cumberland England ( died on 28th September 1958 Thornaby Yorkshire) I am not finding this with my usual searches; Thanks for any help. She was married in Catholic Church Whitehaven in 1890 to Patrick Francis Wood. Thanks Pam
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KathleenBell
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2 Feb 2019 15:48 |
This is the nearest I can see:-
First name(s) MARY JANE Last name HEWITT Birth year 1869 Birth quarter 2 Registration month - Mother's maiden name Hewitt District Whitehaven County Cumberland Country England Volume 10B Page 576 Record set England & Wales Births 1837-2006 Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Subcategory Civil Births
Penalties for not registering a birth did not come in until 1875, so perhaps her birth wasn't actually registered.
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ArgyllGran
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2 Feb 2019 16:18 |
If you got the DOB from 1939 register, remember that it's not always correct:
Mary Jane Wood in the 1939 England and Wales Register Name: Mary Jane Wood Gender: Female Marital status: Widowed Birth Date: 21 Sep 1870 Residence Year: 1939 Address: 2 IRAFALGAR St [2 TRAFALGAR St] Residence Place: Thornaby-on-Tees, Yorkshire (North Riding), England [Yorkshire (North Riding), England] Occupation: Unpaid Domestic Duties Schedule Number: 186 Sub Schedule Number: 1 Enumeration District: JGRA Registration district: 534/4 Household Members: Name Mary Jane Wood Violet Philips
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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2 Feb 2019 16:39 |
Born sept she shouid be reg in the Dec qtr
It may be her birth wasn't registered
Does she name her father on the marriage cert
Have you found her on the 1871 and 1881 census
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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2 Feb 2019 16:51 |
A tree on ancestry has this Patrick Francis Wood Spouse Mary Jane Hewitt Father: Francis (Frank) Wood Mother: Elizabeth Meigham Children: Elizabeth Birth: Apr 1869 Workington, Cumberland, England Death: Mar 1928 Middlesborough, Yorkshire, England Residence: 1881 Workington, Cumberland, England
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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2 Feb 2019 16:57 |
Name: Patrick Francis Wood Registration Year: 1890 Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec Registration district: Cockermouth Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District Inferred County: Cumberland Volume: 10b Page: 979 Records on Page: Name Mary Jane Hewitt
Patrick Francis Wood
View England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007 Order death certificate for Patrick F Wood Add alternate information Report issue Name: Patrick F Wood Death Age: 57 Birth Date: abt 1871 Registration Date: Mar 1928 Registration district: Middlesbrough Inferred County: Yorkshire North Riding Volume: 9d Page: 737
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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2 Feb 2019 17:00 |
Suggests she wa born a bit later
1901 census Mary J Wood Age: 28 Estimated birth year: abt 1873 Relation to Head: Wife Gender: Female Spouse: Patrick Wood Birth Place: Maryport, Cumberland, England Civil Parish: Workington Search Photos: Search for 'Workington' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection Ecclesiastical parish: Workington St Michael Town: Workington County/Island: Cumberland Country: England Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status:
View image Registration district: Cockermouth Sub-registration district: Workington ED, institution, or vessel: 22 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 4884 Folio: 110 Page Number: 25 Household schedule number: 139 Household Members: Name Age Patrick Wood 30 Mary J Wood 28 Elizabeth Wood 9 Lilian Wood 2
1911 census
Name: Mary Jane Wood Age in 1911: 39 Estimated birth year: abt 1872 Relation to Head: Head Gender: Female Birth Place: Maryport, Cumberland, England Civil Parish: Workington Search Photos: Search for 'Workington' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection County/Island: Cumberland Country: England Street address: 8 Downs Lanc Workington Marital status: Married Registration district: Cockermouth Registration District Number: 576 Sub-registration district: Workington ED, institution, or vessel: 19 Piece: 31445 Household Members: Name Age Mary Jane Wood 39 Elizabeth Wood 19 Lilian Wood 11 Agnes Wood 9 Christina Wood 3 Ethel Wood 2 Mary Elizabeth Wood 15/12 John Edward Wood 6/12
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Pamela
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2 Feb 2019 17:01 |
Thanks. I have seen those trees Mary Jane Hewitt's Father was John He was a Seaman I will have to return tomorrow as I have to go to work now Thanks you.
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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2 Feb 2019 17:03 |
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Births Dec 1874 Hewitt Mary Jane Whitehaven10b 625
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Mel Fairy Godmother
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2 Feb 2019 17:47 |
HEWITT, MARY JANE - GRO Reference: 1869 J Quarter in WHITEHAVEN Volume 10B Page 576
HEWITT, MARY JANE CHAMBERS GRO Reference: 1874 D Quarter in WHITEHAVEN Volume 10B Page 625
HEWITT, MARY STUDHOLME GRO Reference: 1874 M Quarter in WHITEHAVEN Volume 10B Page 593
HEWITT, MARY ELIZABETH STEWARTSON GRO Reference: 1870 J Quarter in WHITEHAVEN Volume 10B Page 563
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KathleenBell
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2 Feb 2019 18:00 |
The Mary Jane Hewitt born 1874 with mother's maiden name Chambers is probably the daughter from this marriage:-
First name(s) WILLIAM Last name HEWITT Marriage quarter 1 Marriage year 1873 Registration month - MarriageFinder ™
WILLIAM HEWITT married one of these people
Mary Corkhill, >>>>>Elizabeth Chambers<<<<<
District Whitehaven District number - County Cumberland Country England Volume 10B Volume as transcribed 10B Page number 831 Record set England & Wales Marriages 1837-2005
The father's name would be William in this case, NOT John.
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ErikaH
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2 Feb 2019 18:37 |
It may simply be that her birth wasn’t registered
If she knew who her father was, his name will be on her marriage cert
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You say her father was John - is there any proof?
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rootgatherer
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2 Feb 2019 21:05 |
Perhaps she was illegitimate and her birth is registered under a different surname. Have you found her on any census records before her marriage please?
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ArgyllGran
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2 Feb 2019 23:29 |
I don't see either Patrick or Mary in 1891.
Can't see daughter Elizabeth's birth, either. Unless, for some reason, it's this one, though I don't see how:
WOODS, ELIZABETH - GRO Reference: 1892 S Quarter in COCKERMOUTH Volume 10B Page 625
Patrick's birth:
Births Jun 1869 (>99%) WOODS Patrick Francis Cockermouth 10b 521
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Mel Fairy Godmother
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2 Feb 2019 23:50 |
This is a John Hewitt and anther Hewitt Thomas both are boarders and Mariners. I can find Thomas in other census but not John.
John S Hewitt
1861 England Census
Name: John S Hewitt Age: 26 Estimated birth year: 1835 Relation: Boarder Gender: Male Where born: Workington, Cumberland, England Civil Parish: Liverpool Ecclesiastical parish: St Mark Town: Liverpool County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address:
Occupation: Mariner <<<<<
Registration district: Liverpool Sub-registration district: St Thomas ED, institution, or vessel: 11f Neighbors: Household schedule number: 31 Piece: 2676 Folio: 35 Page Number: 7 Household Members: Name Age John Mc Laughlin 68 Elizabeth Mc Laughlin 61 David Faulds 37 Thomas M Hewitt 31<<<<<<< John S Hewitt 26<<<<<<<
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3 Feb 2019 00:05 |
1871 Census 7 Records found Piece: RG10/5016 Place: Sunderland -Co. Durham Enumeration District: 1 Civil Parish: Bishop Wearmouth Ecclesiastical Parish: St Thomas Folio: 9 Page: 11 Schedule: 56 Address: 21 Spring Gardens Lane
Surname First name(s) Rel Status Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks HEWITT Robert Head M M 52 Bookmaker Cumberland - Dalston HEWITT Ann Wife M F 45 Co. Durham - Darlington HEWITT David Son U M 19 Bookmaker Co. Durham - Sunderland HEWITT Jane Dau U F 16 Co. Durham - Sunderland HEWITT Margaret Dau U F 10 Co. Durham - Sunderland HEWITT Arthur Son U M 13 Co. Durham - Sunderland HEWITT John Lodger U M 32 Seaman Cumberland - Dalston xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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3 Feb 2019 00:43 |
1861 Census 7 Records found Piece: RG9/3779 Place: West Sunderland -Co. Durham Enumeration District: 2 Civil Parish: Sunderland Ecclesiastical Parish: Sunderland Folio: 46 Page: 19 Schedule: 108 Address: 28 Spring Garden Lane
Surname First name(s) Rel Status Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks HEWITT Robert Head M M 42 Boot & Shoe Maker Cumberland - Dalston HEWITT Ann Wife M F 35 Co. Durham - Darlington HEWITT Ann Daur - F 11 Scholar Co. Durham - Sunderland HEWITT David Son - M 10 Scholar Co. Durham - Sunderland HEWITT Jane Daur - F 6 Scholar Co. Durham - Sunderland HEWITT Arthur W Son - M 3 Co. Durham - Sunderland HEWITT John Brothr U M 24 Seaman Cumberland - Dalston xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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Dea
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3 Feb 2019 07:29 |
I had been looking at Mel's 'John S Hewitt' but I can't find him in 1871 :-(
I believe he is in fact John 'J' (Joseph), and this is him below:
Here he is with brother Thomas M and sister Ann who is now married:
1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Bank of Whitehaven, High Street, Wigton cum Woodside, Wigton, Cumberland, England Thomas M Hewitt's Household Members Members that resided in the household at the time of the census. First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place James Reed Head Single Male 33 1858 Bank Agent Cumberland, England Ann Reed Mother Widow Female 65 1826 Living On Her Own Means Workington, Cumberland, England Annie Reed Sister Single Female 43 1848 Living On Her Own Means Cumberland, England Thomas M Hewitt Uncle Single Male 61 1830 Retired Master Mariner Cumberland, England Margaret A Cameron Servant Single Female 21 1870 General Servant Domestic Cumberland, England
Marriages Mar 1847 (>99%) HEWITT Ann Cockermouth 25 67 Scan available - click to view REED John Cockermouth 25 67 Scan available - click to view
1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census Marsh Side, Workington, Cockermouth, Cumberland, England
First name(s) Last name Sex Age Birth year Birth place John Hewitt male 50 1791 Ind. Cumberland, England. Sarah Hewitt Female 50 1791 Cumberland, England Ann Hewitt Female 15 1826 Cumberland, England Thomas Hewitt Male 11 1830 Cumberland, England John Hewitt Male 6 1835 Cumberland, England Sarah Brown Female 25 1816 Cumberland, England Isabella Brown Female 20 1821 Cumberland, England
1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Marsh Side, Workington, Cockermouth, Cumberland, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place John Hewitt Head Married Male 61 1790 Master Mariner Workington, Cumberland, England Sarah Hewitt Wife Married Female 60 1791 - Seaton, Cumberland, England John J Hewitt Son Unmarried Male 16 1835 Mariner (App) Workington, Cumberland, England
View UK and Ireland, Masters and Mates Certificates, 1850-1927
Name: Thomas Mairs Hewitt Estimated Age: 30 Birth Date: 1829 Birth Place: Workington, Cumberland Issue Date: 25 Apr 1859 Issue Port: Workington Certificate Number: 20.358
Baptisms: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 Name: Thomas Mairs Hewit Gender: Male Christening Date: 19 Aug 1829 Christening Date (Original): 19 AUG 1829 Christening Place: SAINT MICHAEL,WORKINGTON,CUMBERLAND,ENGLAND Father's Name: John Hewit Mother's Name: Sarah
Ann Hewitt
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 christening: 5 October 1825 SAINT MICHAEL, WORKINGTON, CUMBERLAND, ENGLAND father: John Hewitt mother: Sarah John Joseph Hewitt
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 christening: 25 September 1834 SAINT MICHAEL, WORKINGTON, CUMBERLAND, ENGLAND father: John Hewitt mother: Sarah John Hewitt (He must have died ??)
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 christening: 10 September 1827 SAINT MICHAEL, WORKINGTON, CUMBERLAND, ENGLAND death: 15 July 1828 father: John Hewitt mother: Sarah
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ArgyllGran
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3 Feb 2019 12:10 |
One of the trees on Ancestry says Mary was born in Ireland in 1866, though with this note:
"Birth 21 Sep 1866 • Armagh, Northern Ireland Mary Jane always said she was born in Maryport. There are no records of her birth there. Even the catholic fathers have tried to trace her. She may have gone to a school there but until I find school records. I dont know! She may have been born in Ireland."
No proof offered. If she was born in 1866, then she was lying about her age in 1901, 1911, and 1939.
The tree also gives John S Hewitt as her father (no proof), and in spite of saying he was born 1835 in Bangor, Northern Ireland, it also shows that 1861 Liverpool census which says he was born in Workington.
The tree says Mary Jane's mother was Margaret (no surname given) born c1839 - but doesn't back that up with any proof.
Can't take any of it as truth.
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Pamela
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6 Feb 2019 07:46 |
Many thanks for all the additional information I will work through all of these Pam
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