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greyghost

greyghost Report 1 Feb 2019 00:00

Same Ancestry tree

View London, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1932

Name: James Richmond
Gender: Male
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 11 Sep 1849
Marriage Place: St Dunstan and All Saints, Stepney, Tower Hamlets, England
Father: James Abraham Richmond
Spouse: Elizabeth Black
Register Type: Parish Register

Original -
both of full age, single
James - A Gentleman of Stepney. Father a brewer
Elizabeth also of Stepney. Father a ?? at a distillery

One of witnesses is a Pottinger <<<<

(See Annette's probate fro Pottinger name)

Tree says he died 25.7.1874 Victoria, Australia

greyghost

greyghost Report 31 Jan 2019 23:52

Charles probate also on record - previous page to Mary 1873 - in England

Written will shows on Ancestry (made in 1852) - Australia, several pages

Name: Charles Fuller
Record Type: Wills (Will)
Death Date: 11 Jan 1873
Death Place: Buninyong East
Occupation: Station-Master
Grant Date: 27 Jul 1873
Grant: Adm. C.T.A.
Grant Recipient: Henry W. Fuller

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Cemetery register in Australia -
St Kilda Cemetery, Victoria

Charles Fuller b 1.12.1818 died 11.1.1873
MAry Anne his wife b 7.10.1825 died 29.5 1853

greyghost

greyghost Report 31 Jan 2019 23:44

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Dec 1844 (>99%)

FULLER Charles Stepney 2 433 Scan available - click to view
RICHMOND Mary Ann Stepney 2 433 Scan available - click to view

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in the London, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1932

Name: Charles Fuller
Gender: Male
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 7 Oct 1844
Marriage Place: St Anne, Limehouse, Tower Hamlets, England
Father: William Fuller
Spouse: Amy Anne Richmond <<<<<<reads MAry Ann
Register Type: Parish Register

From original -
Charles - of full age. A Farmer of Cheddington, Surrey. Father William a Farmer
Mary Ann - a minor of Limehouse. Father James a Wine Merchant

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 31 Jan 2019 23:44

For reference:

Joseph Cracherode Richmond
in the England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
Name: Joseph Cracherode Richmond
Gender: Male
Baptism Date: 24 Feb 1836
Baptism Place: Saint Dunstan,Stepney,London,England
Father: James Abraham Richmond
Mother: Elizabeth
FHL Film Number: 596913, 596914, 596915, 596916

greyghost

greyghost Report 31 Jan 2019 23:33

?????

Same tree has death of Mary Ann 1853 in Prahan, Victoria, Australia
1851 - married to a Charles Fuller (1820 - 1873) in Richmond, Surrey with children Mary Ann Emma b 1849 and Harry b 1850

A probate entry is referred to 1873

https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk/Calendar?surname=fuller&yearOfDeath=1873&page=5#calendar

greyghost

greyghost Report 31 Jan 2019 23:24

Tree on Ancestry links this probate record to the death posted above - you need to read to see if any names ring a bell to see if "your" Annette.
Death 1858 but probate 1874

https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk/Calendar?surname=richmond&yearOfDeath=1874&page=4#calendar

Name: Annette Elizabeth Richmond
Death Date: 19 Dec 1858
Death Place: Middlesex, England
Probate Date: 8 Jan 1874
Registry: Principal Registry

EDIT - a Charles Richmond Pottinger is named in the entry - see James' marriage later - one witness is a Pottinger

greyghost

greyghost Report 31 Jan 2019 23:17

London, England, City of London and Tower Hamlets Cemetery Registers, 1841-1966

Name Annette Elizth Richmond
Age24
Birth Dateabt 1834
Burial Date23 Dec 1858
Burial PlaceLondon, England
Reference NumberCTHC/01/044
Household Members
Name Age
Annette Elizth Richmond

From original image - of 6 High Street, Stepney. Burial was on a Thursday

greyghost

greyghost Report 31 Jan 2019 22:56

Looks like Annette - whoever registered the death might be family to help locate them

Name: Age at Death (in years): Order:
RICHMOND, ANNETTE ELIZABETH 24 Order
GRO Reference: 1858 D Quarter in MILE END OLD TOWN Volume 01C Page 429 Order

https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/indexes_search.asp - site is free to use and gives ages at death pre the commercial sites which only start mid 1860's

greyghost

greyghost Report 31 Jan 2019 22:49

Possible for John Whiffin Richmond ??

1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Spring Gardens, Stepney, London & Middlesex, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Elizabeth Johnson Head Widow Female 61 1790 School Mistress Middlesex, England
Mary A Pickerin Sister Unmarried Female 40 1811 - Middlesex, England
Mary A How - Widow Female 57 1794 - Middlesex, England
John Richmond - - Male 21 1830 Mariner Middlesex, England

greyghost

greyghost Report 31 Jan 2019 22:43

?? Annette in 1841

1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census
George Street, Richmond, Richmond upon Thames, Surrey, England

First name(s) Last name Sex Age Birth year Birth place
Thomas B Anderson Male 58 1783 - Surgeon
Elizabeth Anderson Female 54 1787 -
Louisa Edwards Female 58 1783 -
Mary Moore Female 50 1791 -
Mary Dent Female 20 1821 Surrey, England
Annette Richmond Female 6 1835 -
Anne Butler Female 29 1812 -

greyghost

greyghost Report 31 Jan 2019 22:37

for our info

1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Regent Terrace, Stepney, London & Middlesex, England

First name(s) Last name Sex Age Birth year Birth place
James Abraham Richmond Male 40 1801 Middlesex, England
Ellen Dugan Female 40 1801 -

James is listed as a Brewer

Ellen listed as a Female Servant - not born in County

greyghost

greyghost Report 31 Jan 2019 22:35

For an idea of where in the country we're looking. This is the only 34 years old Elizabeth Richmond death in 1838. Yours?

Name: Age at Death (in years): Order:

RICHMOND, ELIZABETH 34 Order
GRO Reference: 1838 M Quarter in STEPNEY Volume 02 Page 495

WhiffingSiggs

WhiffingSiggs Report 31 Jan 2019 22:28

Another loose end.. Elizabeth Richmond (nee Siggs) died 1838 (born 1804). In 1841 census her husband James Abraham Richmond appears to be living with another woman. Their 5 children that I know of have disappeared. Mary Ann 1825, James 1828, John Whiffin 1830, Annette Elizabeth 1834 and Joseph Cracherode 1836. I have found a possible death for Annette in 1858. The others I can't find... Can anyone spot them holed up somewhere ? Thank you :-)