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helina
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20 Jan 2019 12:44 |
What happened to Elizabeth in 1881?
Elizabeth Coole born 1844, Bristol. Parents John and Elinor Coole. Siblings, Alfred 1839-1913. John 1841-1921. Eleanor 1842-1930. Hannah 1848-1940. Joseph 1850-1935. and Matilda 1854-1943. All born in Bristol.
Elizabeth married William Charles Trott in 1866 in Bristol. They had no children. On the 1871 census a niece Florence is staying with them. https://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&dbid=7619&h=823782&tid=&pid=&usePUB=true&_phsrc=efs51&_phstart=successSource
By 1891 Elizabeth is a widow living with her sister Matilda in Bristol, and is classed as a professional nurse.
In 1911 she is living on her own (Matilda has since married) with Nephew Albert staying with her.
Elizabeth dies in 1940 Bristol.
But can find no record of Elizabeth in 1881.
On the 1861 census William Charles Trott is a Ship Carpenters Apprentice living with his parents John and Charlotte Trott.
But can find no death record for William. The only thing I can think of ,if William worked on a ship could he be abroad with Elizabeth in 1881, also if William died aboard is there any way of finding out.
Any help would be appreciated.
helina
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ErikaH
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20 Jan 2019 13:01 |
When was William born?
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greyghost
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20 Jan 2019 13:52 |
For our info -
1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Ruysdael Place, Bristol, Gloucestershire, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Elizabeth Trott Head Widow Female 46 1845 Professional Nurse - Matilda Coole Sister Single Female 36 1855 Manageress To Hat Factory -
both said to be born in Bristol
------------------- Name: Elizabeth Trott Age: 26 Estimated birth year: abt 1845 Relation: Wife Spouse's name: William C Trott Gender: Female Where born: Bristol Civil Parish: Bedminster Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul County/Island: Somerset Country: England Registration district: Bedminster Sub-registration district: Bedminster ED, institution, or vessel: 4 Household schedule number: 125 Piece: 2505 Folio: 98 Page Number: 21 Household Members: Name Age William C Trott 30 Ship's CArpeter bn Bristol 1841 Elizabeth Trott 26 Florence A Cooke 5
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greyghost
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20 Jan 2019 13:55 |
1871 from FMP - looking at original, it's not a bad transcript !! But it didn't come up as a variant surname
1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Cumberland Road Sydney Row, Bedminster, Somerset, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place William C Trost Head - Male 30 1841 - Somerset, England Elizabeth Trost Wife - Female 26 1845 - Somerset, England Florence A Cooke Niece - Female 5 1866 - Somerset, England
William a Ship's Carpenter
all b Bristol
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greyghost
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20 Jan 2019 14:10 |
Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: Order:
TROTT, WILLIAM CHARLES EDYE Order GRO Reference: 1841 J Quarter in BRISTOL Volume 11 Page 160 Order
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ArgyllGran
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20 Jan 2019 14:34 |
William Charles Trott in the Bristol, England, Select Church of England Parish Registers, 1720-1933 Name: William Charles Trott Gender: Male Baptism Date: 30 May 1841 Baptism Place: Bristol, Temple, Gloucestershire, England Father: John Trott Mother: Charlotte Trott
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greyghost
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20 Jan 2019 14:36 |
A tree on Ancestry has put his death as 2.5.1877 in Bristol. This is linked to the below typed Index
Name Charles Trott Estimated Birth Yearabt 1843 Registration Year 1877 Registration Quarter Apr-May-Jun Age at Death 34 Registration districtBristol Parishes for this Registration DistrictBristol Inferred CountyGloucestershire Volume6a Page17
and a link !!!!! to the Probate Calender of a William Trott - there are 2 Williams on the page. One died Woodbridge, Suffolk - a Shipowner (aged 83) and the other died in Somerset and was a Corn Thresher with probate to widow Sarah Matilda)
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ArgyllGran
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20 Jan 2019 14:36 |
A couple of years out in age - but I'll post it just in case:
Charles Trott in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1837-1915 Name: Charles Trott Estimated birth year: abt 1843 Registration Year: 1877 Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun Age at Death: 34 Registration district: Bristol Inferred County: Gloucestershire Volume: 6a Page: 17
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Maddie
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20 Jan 2019 15:04 |
in case you don't have it
England & Wales Merchant Navy Crew Lists 1861-1913 What can I do with this record? Attach this record as a source to a person on your tree. Also update people and relatives with details from this record First name(s) W C Last name Trott Birth year 1840 Birth place Bristol Birth country England Year 1865 Role Carpenter Vessel name Sir James From date ? Jul 1865 Vessel official number 497 Vessel type Sail Log book N Record source Bristol Record Office Record set England & Wales Merchant Navy Crew Lists 1861-1913 Category Education & work Subcategory Merchant Navy & Maritime Collections from Great Britain, UK None
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alviegal
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20 Jan 2019 21:39 |
Not finding the 1881 (very strange) but do you have this 1939 schedule?
100 Eastville Institution Fishponds Road , Bristol C.B., Gloucestershire, England
First name(s) Last name(s) DOB Sex Occupation Marital status Institutional role Schedule Schedule Sub Number Elizabeth Trott 24 Oct 1840 Female Nurse Pensioner Widowed Patient 2 73
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alviegal
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20 Jan 2019 21:47 |
I'm wondering about this one? Surname does read Knott though so perhaps not.
1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census
14, Berkely Square, Bristol St Augustine, Bristol, Gloucestershire, England
Robert W Coe Head Married Male 58 1823 Surgeon Bath, Somerset, England Catherine E S Coe Wife Married Female 29 1852 - Great Yarmouth, Norfolk, England Robert H Coe Son Single Male 4 1877 - Bristol, Gloucestershire, England Frank P Coe Son Single Male 2 1879 - Bristol, Gloucestershire, England Catherine L Coe Daughter Single Female 0 1881 - Bristol, Gloucestershire, England >>Eliza Knott Servant Widow Female 37 1844 Nurse (D) Bristol, Gloucestershire, England Eliza J Birch Servant Single Female 15 1866 Under Nurse (Dom) Bristol, Gloucestershire, England Harriet Rose Servant Single Female 31 1850 Cook Dom Dorking, Surrey, England Selina E Payinton Servant Single Female 24 1857 Parlour Maid Malmesbury, Wiltshire, England
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safc
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20 Jan 2019 22:25 |
????
Record Transcription: 1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Gloucester County Lunatic Asylum, Wotton St Mary, Gloucester, Gloucestershire, England
First name(s) E ? Last name T Relationship - Marital status Widow Sex Female Age 43 Birth year 1838 Birth town - Birth county - Birth place - Occupation Nurse House name Gloucester County Lunatic Asylum Street - Town - Parish Wotton St Mary County Gloucestershire Country England Registration district Gloucester Archive reference RG11 Piece number 2530 Folio 120 Page 29
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alviegal
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21 Jan 2019 13:34 |
Ooooh now that looks good safc!! Her year of birth is out though, same as the lady in the 1939 register.
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ArgyllGran
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21 Jan 2019 15:37 |
I like the look of Eliza Knott, the 1881 posted by alviegal.
This is the only Eliza* who married a Knott in Bristol 1860-81 (of course she may have married elsewhere):
Marriages Jun 1874 (>99%) Knott Henry Mayne Bristol 6a 74 Smith Eliza Bristol 6a 74
But they are together in 1881, with three children and her father.
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