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Elizabeth Coole

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helina

helina Report 20 Jan 2019 12:44

What happened to Elizabeth in 1881?

Elizabeth Coole born 1844, Bristol. Parents John and Elinor Coole. Siblings, Alfred 1839-1913. John 1841-1921. Eleanor 1842-1930. Hannah 1848-1940. Joseph 1850-1935. and Matilda 1854-1943. All born in Bristol.

Elizabeth married William Charles Trott in 1866 in Bristol. They had no children. On the 1871 census a niece Florence is staying with them.
https://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&dbid=7619&h=823782&tid=&pid=&usePUB=true&_phsrc=efs51&_phstart=successSource

By 1891 Elizabeth is a widow living with her sister Matilda in Bristol, and is classed as a professional nurse.

In 1911 she is living on her own (Matilda has since married) with Nephew Albert staying with her.

Elizabeth dies in 1940 Bristol.

But can find no record of Elizabeth in 1881.

On the 1861 census William Charles Trott is a Ship Carpenters Apprentice living with his parents John and Charlotte Trott.

But can find no death record for William. The only thing I can think of ,if William worked on a ship could he be abroad with Elizabeth in 1881, also if William died aboard is there any way of finding out.

Any help would be appreciated.

helina

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 20 Jan 2019 13:01

When was William born?

greyghost

greyghost Report 20 Jan 2019 13:52

For our info -

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Ruysdael Place, Bristol, Gloucestershire, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Elizabeth Trott Head Widow Female 46 1845 Professional Nurse -
Matilda Coole Sister Single Female 36 1855 Manageress To Hat Factory -

both said to be born in Bristol

-------------------
Name: Elizabeth Trott
Age: 26
Estimated birth year: abt 1845
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: William C Trott
Gender: Female
Where born: Bristol
Civil Parish: Bedminster
Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul
County/Island: Somerset
Country: England
Registration district: Bedminster
Sub-registration district: Bedminster
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Household schedule number: 125
Piece: 2505
Folio: 98
Page Number: 21
Household Members:
Name Age
William C Trott 30 Ship's CArpeter bn Bristol 1841
Elizabeth Trott 26
Florence A Cooke 5

greyghost

greyghost Report 20 Jan 2019 13:55

1871 from FMP - looking at original, it's not a bad transcript !! But it didn't come up as a variant surname


1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Cumberland Road Sydney Row, Bedminster, Somerset, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
William C Trost Head - Male 30 1841 - Somerset, England
Elizabeth Trost Wife - Female 26 1845 - Somerset, England
Florence A Cooke Niece - Female 5 1866 - Somerset, England

William a Ship's Carpenter

all b Bristol

greyghost

greyghost Report 20 Jan 2019 14:10

Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: Order:

TROTT, WILLIAM CHARLES EDYE Order
GRO Reference: 1841 J Quarter in BRISTOL Volume 11 Page 160 Order

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 20 Jan 2019 14:34



William Charles Trott
in the Bristol, England, Select Church of England Parish Registers, 1720-1933
Name: William Charles Trott
Gender: Male
Baptism Date: 30 May 1841
Baptism Place: Bristol, Temple, Gloucestershire, England
Father: John Trott
Mother: Charlotte Trott

greyghost

greyghost Report 20 Jan 2019 14:36

A tree on Ancestry has put his death as 2.5.1877 in Bristol. This is linked to the below typed Index

Name Charles Trott
Estimated Birth Yearabt 1843
Registration Year 1877
Registration Quarter Apr-May-Jun
Age at Death 34
Registration districtBristol
Parishes for this Registration DistrictBristol
Inferred CountyGloucestershire
Volume6a
Page17

and a link !!!!! to the Probate Calender of a William Trott - there are 2 Williams on the page.
One died Woodbridge, Suffolk - a Shipowner (aged 83) and the other died in Somerset and was a Corn Thresher with probate to widow Sarah Matilda)

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 20 Jan 2019 14:36

A couple of years out in age - but I'll post it just in case:

Charles Trott
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1837-1915
Name: Charles Trott
Estimated birth year: abt 1843
Registration Year: 1877
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Age at Death: 34
Registration district: Bristol
Inferred County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 6a
Page: 17

Maddie

Maddie Report 20 Jan 2019 15:04

in case you don't have it

England & Wales Merchant Navy Crew Lists 1861-1913
What can I do with this record?
Attach this record as a source to a person on your tree. Also update people and relatives with details from this record
First name(s) W C
Last name Trott
Birth year 1840
Birth place Bristol
Birth country England
Year 1865
Role Carpenter
Vessel name Sir James
From date ? Jul 1865
Vessel official number 497
Vessel type Sail
Log book N
Record source Bristol Record Office
Record set England & Wales Merchant Navy Crew Lists 1861-1913
Category Education & work
Subcategory Merchant Navy & Maritime
Collections from Great Britain, UK None

alviegal

alviegal Report 20 Jan 2019 21:39

Not finding the 1881 (very strange) but do you have this 1939 schedule?


100 Eastville Institution Fishponds Road , Bristol C.B., Gloucestershire, England

First name(s) Last name(s) DOB Sex Occupation Marital status Institutional role Schedule Schedule Sub Number
Elizabeth Trott 24 Oct 1840 Female Nurse Pensioner Widowed Patient 2 73

alviegal

alviegal Report 20 Jan 2019 21:47

I'm wondering about this one? Surname does read Knott though so perhaps not.

1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census

14, Berkely Square, Bristol St Augustine, Bristol, Gloucestershire, England

Robert W Coe Head Married Male 58 1823 Surgeon Bath, Somerset, England
Catherine E S Coe Wife Married Female 29 1852 - Great Yarmouth, Norfolk, England
Robert H Coe Son Single Male 4 1877 - Bristol, Gloucestershire, England
Frank P Coe Son Single Male 2 1879 - Bristol, Gloucestershire, England
Catherine L Coe Daughter Single Female 0 1881 - Bristol, Gloucestershire, England
>>Eliza Knott Servant Widow Female 37 1844 Nurse (D) Bristol, Gloucestershire, England
Eliza J Birch Servant Single Female 15 1866 Under Nurse (Dom) Bristol, Gloucestershire, England
Harriet Rose Servant Single Female 31 1850 Cook Dom Dorking, Surrey, England
Selina E Payinton Servant Single Female 24 1857 Parlour Maid Malmesbury, Wiltshire, England

safc

safc Report 20 Jan 2019 22:25

????

Record Transcription:
1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census

Gloucester County Lunatic Asylum, Wotton St Mary, Gloucester, Gloucestershire, England

First name(s) E ?
Last name T
Relationship -
Marital status Widow
Sex Female
Age 43
Birth year 1838
Birth town -
Birth county -
Birth place -
Occupation Nurse
House name Gloucester County Lunatic Asylum
Street -
Town -
Parish Wotton St Mary
County Gloucestershire
Country England
Registration district Gloucester
Archive reference RG11
Piece number 2530
Folio 120
Page 29

alviegal

alviegal Report 21 Jan 2019 13:34

Ooooh now that looks good safc!! Her year of birth is out though, same as the lady in the 1939 register.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 21 Jan 2019 15:37

I like the look of Eliza Knott, the 1881 posted by alviegal.

This is the only Eliza* who married a Knott in Bristol 1860-81 (of course she may have married elsewhere):

Marriages Jun 1874 (>99%)
Knott Henry Mayne Bristol 6a 74
Smith Eliza Bristol 6a 74

But they are together in 1881, with three children and her father.