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Let's hope Sidami returns..................

I must get a life!

Still can't see deaths of William or Heather.


Ancestry (for whatever that's worth) suggests that Heather J McNair or Ball was previously Rae.

If (big if) there's any truth in that - a previous marriage ??

Marriages Sep 1952 (>99%)
RAE Heather J BALL Eton 6a 890


I've followed up this possible birth:

Births Jun 1930 (>99%)
Rae Heather J Lutman Farnham 2a 276

Parents William R W and Alice M (with one closed record) lived in Eton in 1939.

She died in Australia, with surname Anderson

Heather Anderson
in the Victoria, Australia, Death Index, 1836-1988
Name: Heather Anderson
Death Registration Year: 1986
Death Registration Place: Victoria, Australia
Father: William Robert Wellington Rae
Mother Maiden Name: Lutman
Reference Number: 21202]

So unless she and/or William emigrated and she remarried, she's not Heather J Ball / McNair

Looks good. You’ve been busy!

William A at the same address in 1963, with next wife Heather .
They had married in Ealing in 1957. She's listed as Heather J McNair or Ball at marriage.

William A McNair
in the London, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1965
Name: William A McNair
Year: 1963
County or Borough: Ruislip and Northwood
Ward or Division/Constituency: Ruislip Northwood South East
Street address: 74 Bempton Drive


EDIT:
Both still there in 1965.

Still don't see marriage or death for Elvira.

This death matches the DOB given in 1939 - but don't know if she's the same person:

Elvira Raven
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: Elvira Raven
Death Age: 73
Birth Date: 9 Jul 1906
Registration Date: Mar 1980
Registration district: Ealing
Inferred County: Greater London
Volume: 12
Page: 0122



Marriages Sep 1957 (>99%)
SARTORI Elvira RAVEN Harrow 5f 1243

Births Sep 1906 (>99%)
Sartori Elvira Chorlton 8c 953


I don't see Elvira Sartori in 1939.
Perhaps she was living with William as his wife, and then they separated and both married other people in 1957 .

With William A. (Also in earlier years. This is the latest I can see. EDIT: Still at same address in 1957.)


Elvira McNair
in the London, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1965
Name: Elvira McNair
Year: 1956
County or Borough: Ruislip and Northwood
Ward or Division/Constituency: Ruislip Northwood South East
Street address: 74 George Peter [mistranscribed. Actually 74 Bempton Drive ]
Reference Number: MR/PER/C/0955


I don't see deaths for either of them.


If that's the right William, Maud wasn't waiting for him to die before remarrying.

Wondering about this William.
I don't see any marriage to an Elvira, shown as wife in 1939 below.

Possibly William's birth, taking into account year and location, and also son Arthur's name:

MCNAIR, WILLIAM ARTHUR mms MCGILLIVARY
GRO Reference: 1902 M Quarter in WANDSWORTH Volume 01D Page 669


If so, could this be William in 1939? I don't see any marriage of a William McNair to an Elvira.

William A McNair
in the 1939 England and Wales Register
Name: William A McNair
Gender: Male
Marital status: Married
Birth Date: 25 Jan 1902
Residence Year: 1939
Address: 74 Bempton Drive
Residence Place: Ruislip-Northwood, Middlesex, England
Occupation: Aircraft Fitter
Schedule Number: 268
Sub Schedule Number: 1
Enumeration District: BOBT
Registration district: 127/1
Inferred Spouse: Elvina McNair
Household Members:
Name
William A McNair
Elvina McNair - 09 July 1906 , married [Elvira on image ]
Frances C McNair - 05 Nov 1872



William Arthur McNair
in the 1911 England Census
Name: William Arthur McNair
Age in 1911: 9
Estimated birth year: abt 1902
Relation to Head: Son
Gender: Male
Birth Place: London, United Kingdom
Civil Parish: St Marylebone
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address: 125 Lisson Grove, Marylebone N W
Registration district: St Marylebone
Registration District Number: 7
Sub-registration district: Christchurch
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Piece: 565
Household Members:
Name Age
William Henry McNair 45
Frances Charlotte McNair 39
Percy James McNair 14
Helena McNair 10
William Arthur McNair 9


Deaths Mar 1940 (>99%)
McNair Frances C 68 Uxbridge 3a 259

Madden name Stephens. Re-married in first married name McNair

1939 suggests that she had parted from McNair and taken up with Snooks. Perhaps had to wait for McNair to die before re-marrying

Look for McNair’s death on freebmd

There was a daughter registered as McNair in 1924. On freebmd

Unlikely. Did she & Wiiliam McNair divorce or did he die?

The 2nd MC might show her name as Maud Stephens formerly McNair, or the other way around. The only way to be certain is to purchase a copy.

Was she married before with having the 2 surnames?

Maud marriage reg, shows her as Stephens and McNair

Surname First name(s) Spouse District Vol Page
Marriages Mar 1949 (>99%)

Eggleton Jean M P Millar Ilford 5a 766
McNair Maud Snooks Ilford 5a 766
Millar Gerald D Eggleton Ilford 5a 766
Snooks Charles W McNair Ilford 5a 766
Snooks Charles W Stephens Ilford 5a 766 S
Stephens Maud Snooks Ilford 5a 766

That’s the one Thankyou for you time..

For a bit of an idea where we might be looking

Surname First name(s) Spouse District Vol Page
Marriages Sep 1921 (>99%)
McNair William A Stephens Marylebone 1a 1574

There is this birth McNAir/Stephens

Surname First name(s) Mother District Vol Page
Births Jun 1922 (>99%)
McNair Arthur W T Stephens Greenwich 1d 1825

and this possible 1939 where Arthur's initial does look like W on the original

McNair Household (6 People)
259 Roman Road , Poplar, London, England

FIRST NAME(S) LAST NAME(S) DOB SEX OCCUPATION MARITAL STATUS SCHEDULE SCHEDULE SUB NUMBER
Maud Snooks (Mcnair) 08 Aug 1900 Female Domestic Cooks Assist Married 13 2
Arthur M McNair 19 Apr 1922 Male Builders Clerk Single 13 1
Sorry, this record is officially closed. Check if you can open a closed record.
John Snook 10 Apr 1860 Male Retired Builders Labou Married 13 4
Charles Snook 19 Jan 1908 Male Builders Labourer Single 13 5
Elizabeth Snook 11 May 1913 Female Domestic Cleaner Single 13 6

the original also shows the change of Maud's name from McNair to Snooks was made on the register 16.3.1949

William Mcnair married to Maud nee Stephens they married 1921.