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ArgyllGran
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2 Dec 2020 11:12 |
1841 for James and family already posted by Catherine (on 11 Jan 2019 @ 10:36) - living in High Felling, Heworth, not South Shields.
Found East King Street in 1841 after all! Here's Sarah and family at 28 East King Street:
Sarah Wilson in the 1841 England Census Name: Sarah Wilson Age: 40 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1801 Gender: Female Where born: Durham, England Civil Parish: Jarrow Hundred: Chester (East Division) County/Island: Durham Country: England Street Address: 28 East King Street Occupation: View image Registration District: South Shields Sub-registration District: Westoe Neighbors: Piece: 298 Book: 5 Folio: 18 Page Number: 30 Household Members: Name Age William Wilson 55 - schoolmaster Sarah Wilson 75 Sarah Wilson 40 Sarah Wilson 20 Mary Wilson 20
The enumerator seems to have only written the house number for a few of the households. The one between 28 and 30 isn't numbered, but I assume it's 29.
Only one occupant: Margaret Hunter, 40, FS, born in county.
Mistranscribed as Hanker on Ancestry:
Margaret Hanker in the 1841 England Census Name: Margaret Hanker Age: 40 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1801 Gender: Female Where born: Durham, England Civil Parish: Jarrow Hundred: Chester (East Division) County/Island: Durham Country: England Street Address: (29 ?) East King Street Occupation: View image Registration District: South Shields Sub-registration District: Westoe Neighbors: Piece: 298 Book: 5 Folio: 18 Page Number: 30 Household Members: Name Age Margaret Hanker 40
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grannyfranny
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1 Dec 2020 21:16 |
All the addresses I have say East King St. Needless to say, the Wilsons use the same names....
For instance, I have Sarah W, relict of Samuel Wilson died in 1847 at the home of her son in law William Wilson on East King St.. We think that William Wilson is another family, he married Mary, James' sister. And in 1851 census James Wilson lived at 29 East King St with his family, as listed above.
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ArgyllGran
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1 Dec 2020 20:57 |
What are the first names of these Wilsons, please? That would make it easier to find them, potentially.
However, having said that, in 1841 there is East Street and there's King Street, following each other on the census record, and no house numbers for either of them. No East King Street, as far as I can see.
One Wilson family on East Street:
Dorothy Wilson in the 1841 England Census Name: Dorothy Wilson Age: 20 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1821 Gender: Female Where born: Durham, England Civil Parish: Jarrow Hundred: Chester (East Division) County/Island: Durham Country: England Street Address: Occupation: View image Registration District: South Shields Sub-registration District: South Shields Neighbors: Piece: 297 Book: 17 Folio: 37 Page Number: 23 Household Members: Name Age Mary Chisholm 40 John Chisholm 15 Elizabeth Chisholm 11 Dorothy Wilson 20 Margaret Wilson 11 George Wilson 1
One on King Street:
Thomas Wilson in the 1841 England Census Name: Thomas Wilson Age: 50 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1791 Gender: Male Where born: Durham, England Civil Parish: Jarrow Hundred: Chester (East Division) County/Island: Durham Country: England Street Address: Occupation: View image Registration District: South Shields Sub-registration District: South Shields Neighbors: Piece: 297 Book: 17 Folio: 39 Page Number: 26 Household Members: Name Age Thomas Wilson 50 Jane Wilson 50 Jane Wilson 25 Mary Wilson 20 Anne Wilson 20 Eliza Wilson 15 Hannah Wilson 15
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grannyfranny
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1 Dec 2020 19:38 |
So we've found several other Wilsons who may be related. A number of records give residences of East King St, South Shields, some at 28, some at 29, but we believe these families to be related. The family at no 29 seem to have lived there for many years, at least from 1811 to 1847. The family at no 28 came a bit later.
Is anyone here able to see the original censuses for 1841 and 51 for both addresses please? Also I need to establish the relationships of the families.
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grannyfranny
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23 Oct 2019 17:35 |
Thanks, I do have notes about these.
His sis and brother emigrated to Australia, and a 'cousin' from there has William dying in a riding accident or somesuch, so I'm just checking through all my records again just in case.
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ArgyllGran
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23 Oct 2019 17:27 |
~Well, maybe that's not his death above.
The 1851 census (posted above by Maddie) says he was single in 1851.
So presumably this isn't his marriage - another man of the same name ???:
William Preston Wilson in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Marriage Index, 1837-1915 Name: William Preston Wilson Registration Year: 1849 Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep Registration district: Auckland Inferred County: Durham Volume: 24 Page: 21 Records on Page: Name Elizabeth Dickinson William Henderson Elizabeth Hird John Howe Robert Littlefair Elizabeth Patterick Thomas Forster Williams Margaret Williamson William Preston Wilson ,
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the one who married in 1849 and died in 1909 will be this man:
Name: William Preston Wilson Gender: Male Christening Date: 02 Feb 1824 Christening Date (Original): 02 FEB 1824 Christening Place: HELSINGTON,WESTMORLAND,ENGLAND Father's Name: Thomas Wilson Mother's Name: Jane
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ArgyllGran
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23 Oct 2019 17:23 |
???
William Preston Wilson in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1837-1915 Name: William Preston Wilson Estimated birth year: abt 1825 Registration Year: 1909 Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec Age at Death: 84 Registration district: Chester le Street tInferred County: Durham Volume: 10a Page: 301
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grannyfranny
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23 Oct 2019 17:15 |
Charles oldest brother was William Preston Wilson. He was baptised 26.3.1828 at St Hilda's South Shields. I have him up to the 1851 census, he was a bank clerk.
Can anyone find anything else more up to date about him please?
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grannyfranny
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11 Jan 2019 19:04 |
Thanks everyone, some useful info there.
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ArgyllGran
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11 Jan 2019 12:09 |
The "Margaret" was wrecked in the Bay of Biscay on 29/11/1877.
16 men drowned that day (per Ancestry), and apparently others died the following day or later.
Details and news reports here:
https://www.wrecksite.eu/wreck.aspx?186710
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Maddie
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11 Jan 2019 11:29 |
does,nt give fathers name James Last name Wilson Sex Male Marriage year 1827 Marriage date 12 May 1827 Place Jarrow Description St. Paul Spouse first name(s) Winifred Spouse last name McDonald Groom's first name(s) James Groom's last name Wilson Groom's parish - Bride's first name(s) Winifred Bride's last name McDonald Bride's parish - County Durham Country England Record set Northumberland And Durham Marriages Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Subcategory Parish Marriages Collections from England, Great Britain
???????? Name: James Wilson Registration Year: 1857 Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar Registration district: South Shields Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District Inferred County: Durham Volume: 10a Page: 272
could this be james, he named a daughter isabella
James William Last name Wilson Gender Male Birth year - Birth place - Baptism year 1794 Baptism date 07 Dec 1794 Place South Shields County Durham Country England Father's first name(s) William Father's last name Wilson Mother's first name(s) Isabella Mother's last name - Record set England Births & Baptisms 1538-1975
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Maddie
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11 Jan 2019 11:24 |
1851 Name: James Wilson Age: 55 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1796 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Winfield Wilson Gender: Male Where born: South Shields, Durham, England Civil Parish: Westoe Ecclesiastical parish: St Hilda County/Island: Durham Country: England Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Disability: View image Registration district: South Shields Sub-registration district: Westoe ED, institution, or vessel: 4b Neighbors: Household schedule number: 113 Piece: 2399 Folio: 172 Page Number: 26 Household Members: Name Age James Wilson 55 Winfield Wilson 45 William P Wilson 23 Sarah Wilson 18 Winfied Wilson 13 Mary Wilson 11 Joseph Wilson 9 Isabella M Wilson 4 Charles Wilson 2 :-D
1861 in the 1861 England Census View 1861 England Census
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Name: Winifred Wilson Age: 54 Estimated Birth Year: 1807 Relation: Head Gender: Female Where born: South Shields, Durham, England Civil Parish: Chirdon County/Island: Northumberland Country: England Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage: View image Registration district: Tynemouth Sub-registration district: North Shields ED, institution, or vessel: 8 Neighbors: Household schedule number: 107 Piece: 3838 Folio: 13 Page Number: 19 Household Members: Name Age Winifred Wilson 54 Sarah E Wilson 27 Winifred Wilson 23 Mary Wilson 21 Isabella M Wilson 16
1871 Name: Winifred Wilson Age: 64 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1807 Relation: Mother-in-law Gender: Female Where born: South Shields, Durham, England Civil Parish: Holbeck Ecclesiastical parish: Little Holbeck County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Registration district: Holbeck Sub-registration district: Holbeck ED, institution, or vessel: 12 Household schedule number: 36 Piece: 4520 Folio: 91 Page Number: 7 Household Members: Name Age Robt C Strangeways 39 Sarah Eliz Strangeways 38 Jane Strangeways 3 Thomas Strangeways 2 James W Strangeways 3 Months Winifred Wilson 64
Name: Winifred Wilson Estimated Birth Year: abt 1806 Registration Year: 1899 Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep Age at Death: 93 Registration district: Tynemouth Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District Inferred County: Northumberland Volume: 10b Page: 199
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Catherine
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11 Jan 2019 10:36 |
1841 Name: James Wilson Age: 40 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1801 Gender: Male Where born: Durham, England Civil Parish: Jarrow Hundred: Chester (East Division) County/Island: Durham Country: England Street address:
Occupation: Solicitor View image Registration district: Gateshead Sub-registration district: Heworth Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 297 Book: 5 Folio: 10 Page Number: 14 Household Members: Name Age James Wilson 40 Winefred Wilson 30 Wm Wilson 13 Sarrah Wilson 8 James Wilson 5 Winifred Wilson 3 Mary Wilson 1 Jane Robson 16
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ErikaH
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11 Jan 2019 09:31 |
The fact that you can’t find a Will for James online doesn’t necessarily mean there wasn’t one, merely that it didn’t go to Probate.
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grannyfranny
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11 Jan 2019 08:22 |
Thank you everyone. Very helpful. Sarah Wilson was my ggrandma, I have a photo of her, she lived to be 91 or so.
The father James Wilson is a bit of a mystery, though he was a solicitor he doesn;t seem to have a will. I cannot properly identify his parents either.
I have lots of info about James's wife Winifred McDonald and her ancestry.
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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11 Jan 2019 03:10 |
His father was a solicitor James Wilson Age: 55 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1796 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Winfield Wilson Gender: Male Where born: South Shields, Durham, England Civil Parish: Westoe Ecclesiastical parish: St Hilda County/Island: Durham Country: England Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Disability:
View image Registration district: South Shields Sub-registration district: Westoe ED, institution, or vessel: 4b Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 113 Piece: 2399 Folio: 172 Page Number: 26 Household Members: Name Age James Wilson 55 Winfield Wilson 45 William P Wilson 23 Sarah Wilson 18 Winfied Wilson 13 Mary Wilson 11 Joseph Wilson 9 Isabella M Wilson 4 Charles Wilson 2 Mary A Anderson 21 servant
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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11 Jan 2019 03:07 |
He doesn't seem to have marriad Charles Harris Wilson Death Date: 29 Nov 1877 Death Place: Northumberland, England Probate Date: 13 Feb 1878 Registry: Newcastle-Upon-Tyne
Reads Late of 14 Grantley street Whitney .BATCHELOR !! Master mariner who died at sea 29nov1877 . Probate granted to Winifred Wilson 14 Grantley street widow the mother and only next of kin
So seems he lived with his mum
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grannyfranny
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11 Jan 2019 00:00 |
Many thanks for that, how sad.
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10 Jan 2019 23:47 |
Year of birth: 1848 First name(s) Charles Harris Last name Wilson Age 29 Birth year 1848 Death year 1877 Death place Margaret Death date 29 Nov 1877 Burial year - Type At Sea Occupation Master Residence 26 Winchester St, S Shields Place - County - Country At Sea War - Source Registers Of Deaths At Sea Records year range 1877-1879 Document type Deaths Archive reference BT 159/2 Page 59 Archive The National Archives Record set British Armed Forces And Overseas Deaths And Burials Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Subcategory Civil Deaths & Burials Collections from Great Britain, UK None
he drowned margaret is the name of the ship
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grannyfranny
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10 Jan 2019 23:21 |
Can anyone help me find out what happened to him please?
Born 1848 South Shields, bapt St Hildas.1851 census Westoe with family. Has gained a number of certs for sailing, the latest I've found 1873 Masters cert. I appear to have a marriage, but not sure about it.
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