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It could be her alviegal, I wouldnt mind ordering more certificates if I have to, the PDF's are only £6, it would be worth it to prove it. This one has been so hard to get to the bottom of.

Possible death for the wife in the 1871 that I posted.

Jones Ann 1835 1872 1872 England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007 Machynlleth, Montgomeryshire, Wales

Marriage cert 1877 says lead miner. census 1881 says farm labourer. By 1901 he was dead. Dont know when he died.

I thought he was a lead miner in 1877?

" Lewis was 39, she was 24. He was widowed, she is spinster. he is Lead miner, she has no occ. "

The 1881 census says lewis was a farm labourer, then in later years he was a lead miner.

Yes I saw that one alviegal, but didn't think it tied up.

Interesting alviegal, as Penegoes is where wife no 2 was born...........

Thats interesting, 1881 census shows daughter Jane age 2 and Mary Ann age 4
Mary Ann born Machynlleth and Jane born Darouch ??? (hard to read)

I was wondering about this one? Lewis is a lead miner, 3 youngest children born Taliesin, Cardiganshire. Lewis is born Tredol??

1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census

Bugeilyn, Penegoes, Machynlleth, Montgomeryshire, Wales

Lewis Jones Head - Male 34 1837 - Cardiganshire, Wales
Ann Jones Wife - Female 36 1835 - Cardiganshire, Wales
David Jones Son - Male 13 1858 - Cardiganshire, Wales
Thomas Jones Son - Male 10 1861 - Montgomeryshire, Wales
John Jones Son - Male 7 1864 - Cardiganshire, Wales
Elizabeth Jones Daughter - Female 4 1867 - Cardiganshire, Wales
Richard Jones Son - Male 1 1870 - Cardiganshire, Wales



This may be youngest daughter in 1881 and the other children would possibly all be working. Haven't found Richard yet.


1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census

Cildyfnog, Penegoes, Machynlleth, Montgomeryshire, Wales

Thomas Jones Head Married Male 40 1841 Farmer Of 80 Acres Employing 1 Labr Montgomeryshire, Wales
Mary Jones Wife Married Female 44 1837 Farmers Wife Machynlleth, Montgomeryshire, Wales
John Williams Nephew Single Male 20 1861 Farm Laborer Penegoes, Montgomeryshire, Wales
>>Elizabeth Jones Servant Single Female 13 1868 General Servant Taliesin, Cardiganshire, Wales

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Marriages Mar 1859 (>99%)
Evans Edward Aberystwith 11b 104
Evans Mary Aberystwith 11b 104
Jones Lewis Aberystwith 11b 104
Parry Margaret Aberystwith 11b 104

Daughter Jane

JONES, JANE (MMN) HUMPHREYS
GRO Reference: 1879 D Quarter in MACHYNLLETH Volume 11B Page 167

NO birth in the district/year for Mary Ann with MMN Humphreys

BUT....................

JONES, MARY ANN (MMN) EVANS
GRO Reference: 1877 S Quarter in MACHYNLLETH Volume 11B Page 160

Careful checking needed.............................

Thankyou I will look on freebmd

For residence at time of marriage, certificate shows Lewis at Bryngwyn, Uwchy garreg, and Eleanor at Byzdiri ??? (hard to read) Uwchy garreg.

freebmd is the best place to look for a possible first marriage................

Yes. Found that one. Thank you Erika.

1841 - not that it gives you the answer to your specific query

Name: Lewis Jones
Age: 2
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1839
Gender: Male
Where born: Cardiganshire, Wales
Civil Parish: Llancynfelin
Hundred: Geneur Glynn
County/Island: Cardiganshire
Country: Wales
Street address: View image
Occupation: View image
Registration district: Aberystwyth
Sub-registration district: Geneur Glynn
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1372
Book: 15
Folio: 9
Page Number: 10
Household Members:
Name Age
John Jones 46*****************************Hatter
Elizabeth Jones 40
Catharine Jones 14
David Jones 9
John Jones 5
Thomas Jones 4
Lewis Jones 2
Margret Jones 7 Mo

yes. the address is 58 Maesglas.

Is this them in 1881?

1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census

Maesglas, Machynlleth, Montgomeryshire, Wales

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Lewis Jones Head Married Male 43 1838 Farm Labourer Llancynfelyn, Cardiganshire, Wales
Eleanor Jones Wife Married Female 31 1850 - Penegoes, Montgomeryshire, Wales
Mary Ann Jones Daughter Single Female 4 1877 - Machynlleth, Montgomeryshire, Wales
Jane Jones Daughter Single Female 2 1879 - Darowen, Montgomeryshire, Wales

For birthplace info

Name: Lewis Jones
Age: 43
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1838
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Eleanor Jones
Gender: Male
Where born: Llancynfelin, Cardiganshire, Wales
Civil Parish: Machynlleth
County/Island: Montgomeryshire
Country: Wales
Street address: Maesglas
Condition as to marriage: Married
Occupation: Farm Labourer
Registration district: Machynlleth
Sub registration district: Machynlleth
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Piece: 5477
Folio: 40
Page Number: 9
Household Members:
Name Age
Lewis Jones 43
Eleanor Jones 31
Mary Ann Jones 4
Jane Jones 2

Lewis was born Llangynfelio. Cardiganshire, Wales.

From the cencus's it would appear from the DOB's that all the children were belonging to Lewis and Eleanor.