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Hello,

I am looking for help to find my Great Grandparents records.

Williams - Great Grandmother
Thomas Rees - Great Grandfather
Gwynth J Rees - Grandmother (the above's child) Born Oct. 1914.

Pontypridd, Wales

Thank you for any help you can offer!

How confident are you about Gwynths middle initial? These are the only birth reg on the Gro site, if the month/year of birth are correct.

REES, GWYNETH Mmn WILLIAMS
GRO Reference: 1914 D Quarter in PONTYPRIDD Volume 11A Page 1415

REES, GWYNNETH LOUVAIN mmn DAVIES
GRO Reference: 1914 D Quarter in LLANELLY Volume 11A Page 2482

Have you thought of purchasing her BC? You can order a PDF version for £6 from https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/menu.asp

This looks like your grandmother's birth (although not registered with a middle name):-

First name(s) GWYNETH
Last name REES
Birth year 1914
Birth quarter 4
Registration month -
Mother's maiden name Williams
District Pontypridd
County Glamorganshire
Country Wales
Volume 11A
Page 1415
Record set England & Wales Births 1837-2006

Maybe the middle name was given at baptism?

Kath. x

Possibly marriage of parents using parameters of Pontypridd & years 1911-1914. There’s no guarantee it is correct if they married earlier or in a different registration district.

Marriages Dec 1911 (>99%)
Evans Edward A Pontypridd 11a 1224
Holmes Mary Pontypridd 11a 1224
REES Thomas J Pontypridd 11a 1224 <<<
Williams Miriam Pontypridd 11a 1224 <<<

Gwynths BC is a must to find out the mother’s full name.

This is a possibility for your great grandparent's marriage (although getting Gwyneth's birth certificate should be your first step to be sure of her parent's names):-

First name(s) THOMAS
Last name REES
Marriage quarter 4
Marriage year 1908
Registration month -
MarriageFinder ™

THOMAS REES married one of these people

Selina Baker, *****Sarah Mary Williams*****

District Pontypridd
District number -
County Glamorganshire
Country Wales
Volume 11A
Volume as transcribed 11A
Page number 904
Record set England & Wales Marriages 1837-2005

Kath. x

So far, there’s 2 choices for the parents marriage! Buy Gwynths BC & let us know the details.
It would well worth the expense rather than following the wrong Ancestry. The latest full census online was taken on 2 Apr 1911. We have to get back to that with confirmed facts.

Later, you may need to buy the parents MC to discover the declared names for their respective father, occupations etc. Witnesses could be other family members.

Do you know if your grandmother had any siblings who might have been born before 1911 and would appear on the 1911 census?

Kath. x

If the marriage of Thomas and Sarah Mary is the correct one (which isn't certain until you get Gwyneth's birth certificate) then this is them in the 1911 census:-

1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
33 Stuart St Treorchy Glamorgan, Rhondda, Glamorganshire, Wales

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Birth place Occupation

Thomas Rees Head Married Male 29 1882 Glamorgan Mumbles Coal Miner Hewer
Sarah Mary Rees Wife Married Female 25 1886 Glamorgan Treorchy
Clifford Rees Son - Male 0 1911

Kath. x

We must stress that neither marriages, or the 1911 census posted by Kath, are confirmed as those of your grt grandparents.

I notice from your "Researching" notes that you have Thomas W. Scales and Gwyneth Rees. Is this the same Gwyneth Rees who is your grandmother? If so then this is her marriage (without a middle initial):-

First name(s) THOMAS W
Last name SCALES
Marriage quarter 2
Marriage year 1936
Registration month -
MarriageFinder ™

THOMAS W SCALES married one of these people

Gwyneth Rees

Spouse's last name Rees
District Hampstead
District number -
County London
Country England
Volume 1A
Volume as transcribed 1A
Page number 1765
Record set England & Wales Marriages 1837-2005

Kath. x

Gwyneth Jeanne Scales
in the London, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1965
Name: Gwyneth Jeanne Scales
Year: 1939
County or Borough: Camden
Ward or Division/Constituency: Hampstead
Street address: 4 Gascony Avenue

With Thomas William Scales.