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Burial location for Philip John Richardson d 1904

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Rosemary

Rosemary Report 17 Dec 2018 00:56

My grandfather died in March 1904 at Port St John. He was 49 or 50 years old. He left behind in Cornwall his wife Emelie & his only son, my father Cecil Philip.
He was Captain of a ship that had sailed to Port St John area from Falmouth, Cornwall, England.
Our family has no information about the cause of his death or where he is buried.
Can anyone help?
Thank You!
Rosemary

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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 17 Dec 2018 03:33

Port St. John is in Florida. Is this his death in Africa?

Name: Philip John Richardson
Event Type: Probate
Event Date: from 1903 to 1904
Event Place: Grahamstown, Albany, Cape Province, South Africa
Event Place:
Age: 48
Relationship to Deceased: Deceased
Birth Year (Estimated): 1856
Birthplace: Jersey Channel Islands
Death Date: 13 Mar 1904
Digital Folder Number: 007844464
Image Number: 01793


Rose

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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 17 Dec 2018 06:18

Says he died at the residence of someone whose name I can't make out.


https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSQ8-434X-Y?i=1792&cc=2517051

Rose

Rosemary

Rosemary Report 17 Dec 2018 08:00

Yes I should have stated that it was South Africa. I checked the link to Family Searcg & although the details of his father’s name & marital status are incorrect in the death certificate, I’m sure it it is him.tThank you for the information. Where did you locate it?

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 17 Dec 2018 11:48

Although this says that he died Penzance the original says he died Port St, John, Pondoland, Cape Colony, South Africa.

Philip John Richardson
in the England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966, 1973-1995
Name:
Philip John Richardson
Death Date:
13 Mar 1904
Death Place:
Penzance, Cornwall, England
Probate Date:
20 Jun 1904 \
Registry:
London, England

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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 17 Dec 2018 12:14

Rosemary,

It was on Family Search.

Rose

Catherine

Catherine Report 18 Dec 2018 12:16

Just to add to info alreacy found, record states his father's name was:-
Frank Richardson, mother's name not kown.

Looks, to me, as residence was someone called P.W.B. Todd

Catherine

Catherine Report 18 Dec 2018 12:18

strange, his marriage record states his father's name is John, not Frank?

Name: Philip John Richardson
Gender: Male
Marriage Age: 30
Occupation:- Mariner
Record Type: Marriage
Birth Date: abt 1854
Marriage Date: 7 Jul 1884
Marriage Place: St Paul, Deptford, Lewisham, England
Father: John Richardson
Spouse: Emilie Lydia Richardson
Father:- Thomas Richardson
Register Type: Parish Register

Rosemary

Rosemary Report 19 Dec 2018 07:34

Yes it is a mistake. His father was John Richardson & all the information in the marriage record Catherine posted is correct.
Thank you everyone fir your responses. Still trying to track down where in Port St John he is buried & also cause of death. Any advice as to where I might look is appreciated.

Dea

Dea Report 19 Dec 2018 09:15

There is a very good site for South African genealogy. Amongst many other things they have photographed hundreds of graves all over the Colony and beyond.

Unfortunately, they don't seem to have his burial registered.

Do you think that maybe as he was a ships master, he may have been buried at sea??

The site is here if you want to take a look:

http://www.eggsa.org/cgi-bin/dosearchBurials.pl

Dea x

P.S. - I haven't looked through the newspapers they seem to have on there but you may find mention if you search?

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 19 Dec 2018 13:38

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33SQ-G569-SHPH?i=2&cc=1779109

Philip John Richardson
Usual place of residence: Port St Johns
Age 48 yrs
Race: European (English)
Single <<<<<<<<<<<<<<< ??
Occupation: Seaman
Date of Death: 13th March 1904
Place of death: Port St Johns
Intended place of burial: Cemetery, Port St Johns <<<<<<<<<<
Cause of death: Heart Disease <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Duration of last illness: Two months
Medical man's name: Thomas Querney

Informant: [ I can't decipher the signature] ??? Burghfodel ?? Burgh Todd ??
Qualification: Friend. Owner of house at which death occurred. Present at death.
Residence: Port St Johns




Re Dr Querney:

Thomas Mather Querney
in the UK & Ireland, Medical Directories, 1845-1942
Name: Thomas Mather Querney (retired)
Residence Date: 1940
Residence Place: Port St. John, Pondoland, Cape Province, S. Africa
Directory: The Medical Directory

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 19 Dec 2018 13:48

Re the informant, given Catherine's view of his name given above:

His death:

Perceval William Brereton Todd

Usual place of residence: Port St Johns
Age 61 yrs
European
Married
Pensioner (military)
date of death: 31 Jan 1913
Place of death & intended burial: Port St Johns
Cause of death: Cancer, lingering
Medical man: Dr Querney

Informant: [somebody Todd ]
Qualification: Son. Occupier of same house.
Residence: Port St Johns.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33S7-95DB-SPFZ?cc=1779109

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 19 Dec 2018 13:52

Port St Johns Municipal Cemetery
Cemetery Road
Port Saint Johns, Transkei District, Eastern Cape
South Africa



Or perhaps these people could help ??

https://www.genza.org.za/index.php/en/cemetery-recording-project

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 19 Dec 2018 14:09

On FS there's also the death of PWB Todd's daughter Alice Ivy Brereton Todd, who died in Port St Johns in 1903, aged 1 yr 7.5 months, of diphtheria.


Her address (and also Perceval's, as informant) is given as The Camp, Port St Johns.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 19 Dec 2018 14:34

Perceval was born in Falmouth.
Presumably his family and the Richardsons were friends before Philip went to Post St Johns.

Percival William Br?rston Todd
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Birth Index, 1837-1915
Name: Percival William Br?rston Todd
Registration Year: 1852
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration district: Falmouth
Inferred County: Cornwall
Volume: 5c
Page: 218


Or perhaps the link was from the Channel Islands.
Perceval's older brothers were born in Guernsey:

Perceval W B Todd
in the 1861 England Census
Name: Perceval W B Todd
Age: 9
Estimated Birth Year: 1852
Relation: Grandson
Gender: Male
Where born: Falmouth, Cornwall, England
Civil Parish: Heavitree
Ecclesiastical parish: Exeter
County/Island: Devon
Country: England
Registration district: St Thomas
Sub-registration district: Heavitree
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors:
Household schedule number: 7
Piece: 1387
Folio: 20
Page Number: 2
Household Members:
Name Age
Alice L Moore 65
Maria C Todd 33
Elizabeth E Moore 30
Matilda F Moore 24
Charles H R Todd 14 - St Martins, Guernsey
Harry R R Todd 12 - St Andrews, Guernsey
Perceval W B Todd 9
Margaret Ley 20

Rosemary

Rosemary Report 20 Dec 2018 00:40

I am grateful for all & any information you have all managed to dig up..Thank you!
Obtaining the cause of death confirms family rumour so that is very helpful.
Re his place of burial- I think it is unlikely that he would have been buried at sea since all information indicateds he died in Port St John rather than while at sea. I do know that his last voyage to South Africa was from Falmouth, England.
Too bad he does not t show up in the list of burials that you cited Dea.
I will follow up on all the links & hints & keep on searching!

Dea

Dea Report 20 Dec 2018 07:50

According to AG's post above, he was buried in the cemetery in Port St. Johns - It might be worth contacting them as suggested.

Dea x