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CANADIAN RECORDS C1914 ONWARDS

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Susan

Susan Report 13 Dec 2018 19:50

Hello All.

I have just come into possession of my grandfather's WW1 records. One page is headed "Special Remittance" and shows that the sum of $25 was paid in either September 1917 or possibly 1915 to an Iva/Eva Clark who was living at Milton House, Hespeler Road, Galt, Ontario

I am intrigued as to who Iva/Eva was. My grandfather never returned to Canada after his discharge at the end of the war.

Any help or suggestions please.

Sue

Dea

Dea Report 13 Dec 2018 21:12

It might help for us to know who your grandfather was??

Dea x

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 13 Dec 2018 22:28



The only Eva in 1911 is an Eva Ayd

Iva seems a popular name.

For instance this family in 1921 has a daughter Eva and a daughter Iva:

Iva Stork
in the 1921 Census of Canada
Name: Iva Stork
Gender: Female
Marital Status: Single
Age: 15
Birth Year: abt 1906
Birth Place: Ontario
Relation to Head of House: Daughter
Father's name: Fredrick Stork
Father Birth Place: Ontario
Mother's name: Eva Stork
Mother Birth Place: Ontario
Racial or Tribal Origin: German
Province or Territory: Ontario
District: Waterloo South
District Number: 137
Sub-District: Hespeler (Town)
Sub-District Number: 33
City, Town or Village: Hespeler Town
Street or Township: Queen St
Municipality: Hespeler
Occupation: Gill Roose
Income: 650
Neighbors:
Household Members:
Name Age
Fredrick Stork 54
Eva Stork 46
Alenyn Stork 18
Freda Stork 16
Iva Stork 15
Eva Stork 12
Grieta Stork 9
Gladys Stork 7
Glifford Stork 2
Lola Stork 1


But I don't see an Iva or Eva Clark in Hespeler or Waterloo or Galt in 1911 or 1921.

A Google search doesn't bring up anything about Milton House, but apparently Milton is now a very sought after area of Cambridge, Ontario. Galt is also part of Cambridge nowadays.

Susan

Susan Report 14 Dec 2018 02:56

My grandfather was Leonard Brooks b1894. He was born in Kent, England but went to Canada sometime before 1914, joined the Canadian Army served in Europe and was discharged to UK at the end of the war never returning to Canada

Susan

Susan Report 14 Dec 2018 03:06

Thanks for the replies

Dea

Dea Report 14 Dec 2018 09:30

I have now read through all 86 pages of his army records!!! and had to wait until page 76 until I found the entry you were talking about.

It was paid to Miss Iva Clark and the address was as you mentioned. The only thing extra I can see is that it seems to have been paid on 6th September 1917 - cheque number is also given but I can't see that will help so many years on. BUT there was also mention of the payment relating it to 'Schedule 425'. Now, this 'may' prove useful if we can find what that schedule covers.

You could try posting on the forum below - someone may be able to help you?:

http://www.cefresearch.ca/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=655&start=705

In the meanwhile, I will see if I can find anything further............

Dea x

Susan

Susan Report 14 Dec 2018 19:12

Hello Dea.

Wow good on you for ploughing through the 86 page! I was amazed when I found them only recently. Yes I wondered what that schedule is. I think I will e-mail the archive and see if they can shed any light on that. I am thinking it was some girlfriend but why she should receive the money I can only speculate !! Of course, I wonder if there is a Canadian relative none of us knew about (in the form of a baby eh?!!). I will do as you suggest and post on the forum.

Many thanks for your time and effort.

Sue x

Dea

Dea Report 14 Dec 2018 19:26

You are welcome Sue.

He seems to have married in 1918 to a Lilian Dorothy so he didn't marry Iva then?

I also note that he had a tattoo on his right arm - the record says it is of a rose and a girls head but then it also says 'INA'. Unless this signifies something else it could possibly be that the name of the girl was Ina not Iva. It does appear to have her as Iva on that record but you never know.

I have looked and both Ina and Iva are quite common names in Canada.

Dea x

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 14 Dec 2018 22:27

If the girl's name was Ina, it could be a shortened form of any name ending in "Ina". In Scotland, Ina can be an abbreviation of many names including Christina, Williamina, Jamesina, Georgina etc. It may be worth searching census records in the correct area using *ina Clark as she would possibly appear on the census record using her "proper" name.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 14 Dec 2018 23:12

There are a number of Clarks in Galt in 1911 and 1921 , and some in the Hespeler area of Waterloo.
But none called Eva, Iva, Ina, *ina, or anything similar
And none actually in Hespeler Road.


Dea

Dea Report 15 Dec 2018 10:43

I thought I had posted this but obviously not............

This, I believe, would be his travel over to Canada (via USA) :


Name: Leonard Brooks - Labourer.
Gender: Male
Age: 19
Birth Date: abt 1895
Departure Date: 21 Apr 1914
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Destination Port: Boston, USA
Ship Name: Cymric
Search Ship Database: Search for the Cymric in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping line: White Star Line
Official Number: 106898
Master: F E Beadnell
His destination - Country of intended permanent residence - CANADA !!

Dea x

Susan

Susan Report 15 Dec 2018 14:31

Hello Dea.

Yes he did marry Lilian They are my grandparents and I clearly remember them both. My interest in Iva is sparked for two reasons firstly nobody in the family has hear of her and secondly L&D married in December 1918 just two months before my Dad was born so obviously knew each other at least in early 1917 ! Clearly Iva/Ina meant something to him.

Yes that's his travel details. According to Dad's youngest sister - the only surviving member of that generation Leonard's parents were not very kindly people and they sent him off to Canada to find work.

Sue

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 15 Dec 2018 15:40

There's this marriage of Ina Clark, address for both was Galt, Ontario.


Ina Roseina Clark
in the Ontario, Canada, Marriages, 1826-1936
Name:
Ina Roseina Clark
Age:
20
Birth Year:
abt 1899
Birth Place:
Ayrshire, Scotland
Marriage Date:
22 Feb 1919
Marriage Place:
Waterloo, Ontario, Canada
Father:
James Clark
Mother:
Annie Wilson
Spouse:
Charles Pinnegar

Susan

Susan Report 15 Dec 2018 17:56

Many thanks Margaret.

Seems if Iva and Leonard each found happiness elsewhere if they were together before Leonard came back to UK

Sue

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 15 Dec 2018 18:05


Ina Pinnigar
in the 1921 Census of Canada
Name: Ina Pinnigar
Gender: Female
Marital Status: Married
Age: 22
Birth Year: abt 1899
Birth Place: Scotland
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Spouse's Name: Charles Pinnigar
Father Birth Place: Scotland
Mother Birth Place: Scotland
Year of Immigration: 1912
Racial or Tribal Origin: English
Province or Territory: Ontario
District: Waterloo South
District Number: 137
Sub-District: Galt (City)
Sub-District Number: 32
City, Town or Village: Galt City
Street or Township: 49 Tait St
Municipality: Ward 5
Neighbors:
Household Members:
Name Age
Charles Pinnigar 28
Ina Pinnigar 22
Marian Pinnigar 14



Rosana Clark
in the 1901 Scotland Census
Name: Rosana Clark
Age: 3
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1898
Relationship: Daur (Daughter)
Father's name: James Clark
Mother's name: Annie Clark
Gender: Female
Where born: Crosshill, Ayrshire
Registration Number: 584B
Registration district: Crosshill
Civil Parish: Kirkmichael
County: Ayrshire
Address: Bruces Square
ED: 3
Household schedule number: 125
LINE: 20
Roll: CSSCT1901_221
Household Members:
Name Age
James Clark 26
Annie Clark 23
James Clark 4
Rosana Clark 3
Agnes Clark 4 Mth


Birth:

CLARK
ROSANNAH
F
1898
584/B 18
Crosshill

Ina Roseina Pinnegar
in the Canada, Find A Grave Index, 1600s-Current

Name: Ina Roseina Pinnegar
Maiden Name: Clark
Birth Date: 30 Jul 1898
Birth Place: Drakemyre, North Ayrshire, Scotland
Death Date: 15 Jul 1980
Death Place: Windsor, Essex County, Ontario, Canada
Cemetery: Victoria Memorial Gardens
Burial or Cremation Place: Windsor, Essex County, Ontario, Canada
Has Bio?: N
Spouse: Charley Pinnegar
Children: Marion Anne Leach

Dea

Dea Report 15 Dec 2018 18:14

Ina was Scotish and apparently arrived in Canada in 1912.

Dea x

Susan

Susan Report 16 Dec 2018 08:26

Thanks for that Dea.

Am going to do some rooting around myself hopefully next week as I am now all prepared for Christmas and have more time. There is a strange co-incidence regarding Scotland which I will tell you about when I have a few spare moments. This is just to thank you so very much for what you have done so far.

All the very best.

Sue x

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 16 Dec 2018 12:33

Ancestry suggests this is Ina's immigration record - but the family details don't match.

Ina J Clark
in the Canadian Passenger Lists, 1865-1935
Name: Ina J Clark
Gender: Female
Arrival Age: 10
Birth Year: abt 1902
Departure Port: Glasgow, Scotland
Arrival date: 22 Oct 1912
Arrival Port: Montreal, Quebec, Canada
Vessel: Athenia

Travelling with:
Mrs M P Clark, 43, who was going to join her husband;
John D, 16
Helen R, 12
William R, 9


Ina /Rosannah's brother James did go to Canada, though I don't know when.
He joined the Canadian Expeditionary Force in 1915, and he married in 1925 .

James Clark
in the Ontario, Canada, Marriages, 1826-1936
Name: James Clark (weaver)
Gender: Male
Age: 28
Birth Year: abt 1897
Birth Place: Crosshill, Scotland
Marriage Date: 18 Nov 1925
Marriage Place: Wellington, Ontario, Canada
Father: James Clark
Mother: Annie Wilson
Spouse: Jane Brown


James Clark
in the Canada, WWI CEF Attestation Papers, 1914-1918
Name: James Clark
Birth Date: 9 Oct 1896
Birth Location: Cosshill Ayrshire, Scotland
Relative: Mr James Clark
Regiment Number: 127123


Possible death of the sister Agnes:

CLARK
AGNES
2
1903
578/1 113
Ayr

Susan

Susan Report 17 Dec 2018 08:28

Thanks to all who are keeping this one going. I am following up on all your helpful posts.

Sue