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Help anyone please 1901?

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Familyfinder

Familyfinder Report 29 Nov 2018 12:20

Could someone please have a quick look on 1901 please?
For Mary Lewis Wannell born 1881 - ( just after the free census!)
Topsham, Devon - thank you anyone who doesn’t mind helping x

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 29 Nov 2018 12:26

Unfortunately she's a servant in 1901 in the Wright household, Topsham, Devon.
I'll have a look at 1891.

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 29 Nov 2018 12:31


Mary Wannell
in the 1891 England Census
Name:
Mary Wannell
Gender:
Female
Age:
10
Relationship:
Daughter
Birth Year:
1881
Father:
William C Wannell
Mother:
Ellen Wannell
Birth Place:
Topsham, Devon, England
Civil Parish:
Topsham
Residence Place:
Topsham, Topsham, Devon, England

Household Members:

William C Wannell 47
Ellen Wannell 42
Charles Wannell 20
Elias Wannell 18
Rose Wannell 14
Harry Wannell 12
Mary Wannell 10
Alfred Hannel 8
Lilly Hannel 4
Frank Hannel 2

The last 3 names are also Wannell, they're on the next page and have been mistranscribed.

Maddie

Maddie Report 29 Nov 2018 12:38

fmp version
Ebenezer Place, High Street, Topsham, St Thomas, Devon, England

William C Wannell Head Married Male 47 1844 Pilot Devon, England
Ellen Wannell Wife Married Female 42 1849 - Devon, England
Charles Wannell Son Single Male 20 1871 Fisherman Devon, England
Elias Wannell Son - Male 18 1873 Fisherman Devon, England
Rose Wannell Daughter - Female 14 1877 Mothers Help Devon, England
Harry Wannell Son - Male 12 1879 Scholar Devon, England
Mary Wannell Daughter - Female 10 1881 Scholar Devon, England
Alfred Wannell Son - Male 8 1883 Scholar Topsham, Devon, England
Lilly Wannell Daughter - Female 4 1887 - Devon, England
Frank Wannell Son - Male 2 1889 - Devon, England

safc

safc Report 29 Nov 2018 12:44

????

Record Transcription:
1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census

Steam Packet Inn, Monmouth Hill, Topsham, St Thomas, Devon, England

Mary Wannell's Household Members
Members that resided in the household at the time of the census.
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Elias H Wannell Head Married Male 53 1848 Fisherman & Licensed Victualler Topsham, Devon, England
Ellen Wannell Wife Married Female 49 1852 Pub Topsham, Devon, England
Mabel Wannell Daughter Single Female 27 1874 Assistant Housekeeper Topsham, Devon, England
Frederick Wannell Son Single Male 22 1879 House Painter Topsham, Devon, England
Mary Wannell Daughter Single Female 20 1881 Assistant Housekeeper Topsham, Devon, England
Charles Wannell Son Single Male 18 1883 House Painter Topsham, Devon, England
Albert Wannell Son Single Male 13 1888 - Topsham, Devon, England
Stanley Wannell Son Single Male 11 1890 Scholar Topsham, Devon, England
Sidney Wannell Son Single Male 9 1892 Scholar Topsham, Devon, England
Edward Wannell Son Single Male 7 1894 Scholar Topsham, Devon, England
Mary Symes Mother-In-Law Widow Female 82 1819 Living On Own Means Sandford, Devon, England

Familyfinder

Familyfinder Report 29 Nov 2018 12:47

That’s fab thank you!!! I already found a connection to that pub!!!
( I meant 1891 not 1901 - can’t add ten today ??) thank you xxx

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 29 Nov 2018 12:51

So I had the wrong family? Sorry about that.

safc

safc Report 29 Nov 2018 12:51

1891 Census
10 Records found


Piece: RG12/1679 Place: St Thomas -Devon Enumeration District: 6
Civil Parish: Topsham Ecclesiastical Parish: Topsham
Folio: 71 Page: 15 Schedule: 107
Address: Ebenezer Place

Surname First name(s) Rel Status Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
WANNELL William C Head M M 47 Pilot(Notem) Devon - Topsham
WANNELL Ellen Wife M F 42 Devon - Topsham
WANNELL Charles Son S M 20 Fisherman(Em'ee) Devon - Topsham
WANNELL Elias Son - M 18 Fisherman(Em'ee) Devon - Topsham
WANNELL Rose Dau - F 14 Mother's Help Devon - Topsham
WANNELL Harry Son - M 12 Scholar Devon - Topsham
WANNELL Mary Dau - F 10 Scholar Devon - Topsham
Page: 71/16 WANNELL Alfred Son - M 8 Scholar Devon - Topsham
WANNELL Lilly Dau - F 4 Devon - Topsham
WANNELL Frank Son - M 2 Devon - Topsham


from

https://www.freecen.org.uk/

Familyfinder

Familyfinder Report 29 Nov 2018 12:55

Change of father’s name? Or a sibling of William C Wannell

Hmm is this the only group of Wannells in 1901 please?

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 29 Nov 2018 12:59

But then there;s this family in 1891 in Topsham. Ellen is listed as seaman's wife:

Ellen Wannell 41
Elias H Wannell 19
Frederick Wannell 12
Edith M Wannell 10
Charles Wannell 8
Florence Wannell 8
Albert Wannell 4
Stanley Wannell 2

Familyfinder

Familyfinder Report 29 Nov 2018 12:59

I don’t know - it looks like there are two Mary’s - but I don’t know which is the right one!
Thank you for highlighting them - it’s goung to take more than I thought!

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 29 Nov 2018 13:01

In 1891 Elias Wannell is a mate aboard the vessel "Primrose".

Maddie

Maddie Report 29 Nov 2018 13:05

MARY LEWIS
Last name WANNELL
Birth year 1881
Birth quarter 4
Registration month -
Mother's maiden name Wannell ------------------
District St. Thomas
County Devon
Country England
Volume 5B
Page 53

doesn't help
but 1939

37 White Street , St Thomas R.D., Devon, England

Mary L Pearce 26 Aug 1881 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 337 2
Albert G Pearce 29 Mar 1880 Male Medical Supplier Bricklayer Married 337 1
Albert H Pearce 28 Dec 1908 Male Bricklayer Single 337 3
Rosa E Kimber (Pearce) 17 Mar 1877 Female - Widowed 337 4

Ref: RG101/6891E/004/42 Letter Code: © Findmypast Ltd
Open a closed record Request a livin

Familyfinder

Familyfinder Report 29 Nov 2018 13:14

Yes Maddie that’s her - but think I might need her birth cert - unless I can find her baptism - will keep looking thank you x
I was told she was a landlady for a long time - so the Steam packet family fit - but obviously need more proof!

greyghost

greyghost Report 29 Nov 2018 13:21

Related to your thread about the Pearce family
https://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1374672?page=0

Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: Order:
WANNELL, MARY LEWIS WANNELL Order
GRO Reference: 1881 D Quarter in ST. THOMAS Volume 05B Page 53 Order

Marriages Mar 1870 (>99%)
Wannell Ellen Exeter 5b 153
Wannell William Charles Exeter 5b 153

------------
? the other marriage -
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Dec 1871 (>99%)
Brookes William Exeter 5b 192
Hodge Ellen Stanley Exeter 5b 192
Sercombe Mary Anna Exeter 5b 192
Wannell Elias Henry Exeter 5b 192

---------------------------
Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: Order:
WANNELL, ELIAS HENRY JACKSON SKINNER Order
GRO Reference: 1846 S Quarter in ST THOMAS Volume 10 Page 231 Order


Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: Order:
WANNELL, WILLIAM CHARLES SKINNER Order
GRO Reference: 1844 D Quarter in ST THOMAS UNION Volume 10 Page 251

Maddie

Maddie Report 29 Nov 2018 13:29

looked for a baptism without ant luck
clearly mum not married

greyghost

greyghost Report 29 Nov 2018 13:31

Could this be the "other Mary" d/o Elias and Ellen

Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: Order:
WANNELL, EDITH MAY HODGE Order
GRO Reference: 1881 M Quarter in ST. THOMAS Volume 05B Page 52

RE transcript of 1891 census posted earlier - Mary on transcript looks to be wrongly transcribed from May on original

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 29 Nov 2018 13:36

Maddie says "clearly mum not married".

Yes, she was married - assuming Mary was Ellen & Williams daughter.
GG has posted a Wannell/Wannell marriage

Maddie

Maddie Report 29 Nov 2018 14:16

stand corrected

lily in 1911
Record Transcription:
1911 Census For England & Wales

Ferry Road Topsham, Topsham, Devon, England

Members that resided in the household at the time of the census.
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Mary Wannell Head Widow Female 85 1826 - Exeter Devon
Henry Wannell Son Single Male 55 1856 Master Mariner Topsham Devon
Constance Wannell Daughter Law Married Female 43 1868 - Avening Gloster
Lily Wannell Granddaughter Single Female 24 1887 General Servant Domestic Topsham Devon
Lily Wannell's Census Details
Details taken from the original census record.

William Charles
Last name Wannell
Age 25
Birth year 1845
Marriage year 1870
Marriage date 10 Jan 1870
Place Exeter, Holy Trinity
Residence Quay Lane
Father's first name George
Father's last name Wannell
Spouse's first name(s) Ellen
Spouse's last name Wannell
Spouse age 21
Spouse's residence Quay Lane
Spouse's father's first name(s) Nelson
Spouse's father's last name Wannell
County Devon
Denomination Anglican

Henry Williams Wannell from 1911 census

Gender Male
Christening Date 09 May 1855
Christening Date (Original) 09 MAY 1855
Christening Place TOPSHAM,DEVON,ENGLAND
Father's Name Nelson James Wannell
Mother's Name Mary Tozer
Citing this Record

"England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975," database, FamilySearch

mary wannel from 1911
census
Mary Tozer
Gender Female
Christening Date 21 Mar 1824
Christening Date (Original) 21 MAR 1824
Christening Place SAINT THOMAS THE APOSTLE,EXETER,DEVON,ENGLAND
Father's Name John Tozer
Mother's Name Ann
Citing this Record

"England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975," database, FamilySearch

nelson and mary lily's grandparents ?????