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23 Nov 2018 17:47 |
Job Challenger 1789-1843 and Mary Wride 1802-1884 married in 1831. They had 6 daughters Mary b 1832 Eliza b 1833 Charlotte b 1835 Sarah b 1837 Elizabeth b 1839 Ellen b 1842 All born in Bristol In 1851 the mother Mary is widowed living with 3 of her daughters Sarah, Elizabeth and Ellen.
The 6 daughters apart from the 3 in 1851 seem to have disappeared, any ideas?
Any help would be appreciated
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23 Nov 2018 18:46 |
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1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census
29, Redcliff Crescent, Bedminster, Somerset, England Charlotte Challenger's Household Members Members that resided in the household at the time of the census. First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Christianna Webb Head Widow Female 73 1778 Indepent Annuitant Bristol, Gloucestershire, England Charlotte Challenger Servant - Female 14 1837 House Servt Bristol, Gloucestershire, England
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23 Nov 2018 18:49 |
Record Transcription: 1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place William G Craig Head Married Male 34 1817 Engineer Scotland Eliza E Craig Wife Married Female 31 1820 - Bristol, Gloucestershire, England Fanny J Craig Daughter - Female 1 1850 - Newport, Monmouthshire, Wales Mary Challinger Servant Unmarried Female 19 1832 Housemaid Bristol, Gloucestershire, England Eliza Challinger Servant Unmarried Female 18 1833 Housemaid Bristol, Gloucestershire, England
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malyon
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23 Nov 2018 19:03 |
could be eliza
England and Wales Census, 1851
Name: Eliza Challinger Event Type: Census Event Date: 1851 Event Place: St Woollos, Monmouthshire, Wales Registration District: Newport Residence Note: Cambria Place Gender: Female Age: 18 Marital Status: Unmarried Occupation: Housemaid Relationship to Head of Household: Servant Birth Year (Estimated): 1833 Birthplace: Bristol, Page Number: 14 Registration Number: HO107 Piece/Folio: 2452 / 301 Affiliate Record Type: Household Household Role Sex Age Birthplace William G Craig Head Male 34 Scotland Eliza E Craig Wife Female 31 Bristol, Fanny J Craig Daughter Female 1 Newport, Monmouthshire Mary Challinger Servant Female 19 Bristol, Eliza Challinger Servant Female 18 Bristol,
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23 Nov 2018 19:06 |
Sarah Challenger England and Wales Census, 1851
Name: Sarah Challenger Event Type: Census Event Date: 1851 Event Place: Bedminster, Somerset, England Registration District: Bedminster Residence Note: Somerset Terrace Gender: Female Age: 14 Occupation: General Servant Relationship to Head of Household: Daughter Birth Year (Estimated): 1837 Birthplace: Bedminster, Page Number: 14 Registration Number: HO107 Piece/Folio: 1945 / 434 Affiliate Record Type: Household Household Role Sex Age Birthplace Mary Challenger Head Female 47 Chilvey, Somerset Sarah Challenger Daughter Female 14 Bedminster, Elizabeth Challenger Daughter Female 12 Bedminster, Ellin Challenger Daughter Female 9 Bedminster,
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malyon
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23 Nov 2018 19:22 |
Residence Note: Sergeant'S Buildings Gender: Female Age: 9 Age: 9 Birth Year (Estimated): 1832 Birthplace: Somerset Registration District: Bedminster Parish: Bedminster County: Gloucestershire Page Number: 11 Registration Number: HO107 Piece/Folio: 376/8 Affiliate Record Type: Household Household Role Sex Age Birthplace Solomon Hollester Male 67-71 Somerset Ann Hollester Female 67-71 Somerset Job Challenger Male 52-56 Somerset Mary Challenger Female 32-36 Somerset Mary Challenger Female 9 Somerset Eliza Challenger Female 7 Somerset Charlotte Challenger Female 5 Somerset Sarah Challenger Female 3 Somerset Elizabeth Challenger Female 1 Somerset
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malyon
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23 Nov 2018 20:35 |
Eliza Challenger England and Wales Marriage Registration Index Name Eliza Challenger Event Type Marriage Registration Quarter Jul-Aug-Sep Registration Year 1874 Registration District Clutton County Somerset Event Place Clutton, Somerset, England Volume 5C Page 925 Affiliate Line Number 266 Eliza Challenger probably married one of the following people Name John Fear Name Mary Ann Gallop Name Henry Moon
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helina
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24 Nov 2018 07:31 |
Thank you for your help, now know where all 6 girls where in 1861 and a marriage as well.
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25 Nov 2018 08:19 |
After doing some research into the possible marriage of Eliza Challenger came across a marriage certificate on ancestry. Unfortunately according to the certificate Eliza's father was called George Challenger not Job.
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25 Nov 2018 20:43 |
Eliza Challenger England and Wales Census, 1861
Name: Eliza Challenger County: Somersetshire Event Type: Census Event Date: 1861 Event Place: Camerton, Somersetshire, England Registration District: Clutton Gender: Female Age: 6 Relationship to Head of Household: Daughter Birth Year (Estimated): 1855 Birthplace: Camerton, Somerset Page Number: 3 Registration Number: RG09 Piece/Folio: 1680 / 123 Affiliate Record Type: Household Household Role Sex Age Birthplace George Challenger Head Male 31 Camerton, Somerset Mary Challenger Wife Female 32 Camerton, Somerset Joseph Challenger Son Male 8 Camerton, Somerset Eliza Challenger Daughter Female 6 Camerton, Somerset William Challenger Son Male 4 Camerton, Somerset Mark Challenger Son Male 2 Camerton, Somerset
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25 Nov 2018 22:35 |
Mary Challenger still with the Craig family in 1861:
Mary Challenger in the 1861 England Census Name: Mary Challenger Age: 38 Estimated Birth Year: 1823 [1833] Relation: Servant Gender: Female Where born: Bristol, Somerset, England Civil Parish: Islington Ecclesiastical parish: St Luke County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Registration district: Islington Sub-registration district: Islington West ED, institution, or vessel: 67 Neighbors: Household schedule number: 38 Piece: 136 Folio: 125 Page Number: 10 Household Members: Name Age William G Craig 42 Eliza H Craig 39 Freensy Jane Craig 11 Clara E Craig 9 Lilian M Craig 6 Edwd W H Craig 5 Louisa Jenks 48 Mary Challenger 38 Sarah Maryo 12 Julia Day 8 Katharine Day 6 Emmeline Day 4 Walter Day 2 Julia Hampton 49 Eliza Gamble 20 Ann Gamble 40
And in 1871:
Mary Challenger in the 1871 England Census Name: Mary Challenger Age: 38 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1833 Relation: Servant Gender: Female Where born: Bristol, Somerset, England Civil Parish: Islington St Mary Ecclesiastical parish: St Augustine County/Island: London Country: England Registration district: Islington Sub-registration district: Islington East ED, institution, or vessel: 15 Household schedule number: 94 Piece: 283 Folio: 63 Page Number: 24 Household Members: Name Age William Gandley Craig 52 Eliza Ellen Craig 51 Fanny Isabella Craig 21 Lillian Margretta Craig 16 Edwd Willm Jno James Craig 15 Mary Challenger 38 Sarah Maia 28
And 1881:
Mary Challenger in the 1881 England Census Name: Mary Challenger Age: 40 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841 Relationship to Head: Servant Gender: Female Where born: Bristol Civil Parish: Stratton St Margaret County/Island: Wiltshire Country: England Street address: Stratton House Occupation: Cook Registration district: Highworth ED, institution, or vessel: 19 Neighbors: Piece: 2015 Folio: 96 Page Number: 22 Household Members: Name Age William G. Craig 54 Eliza Ellen Craig 48 Fanny I. Macqueen 26 Clara E. Craig 20 Lillian M. Craig 18 Mary Challenger 40 Bessie Long 19
William Craig died in France:
William Grindley Craig in the England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966, 1973-1995 Name: William Grindley Craig Death Date: 24 Jan 1886 Death Place: France Probate Date: 6 Jan 1891 Registry: Principal Registry
Administration of the personal estate of William Grindley Craig late of St Jean de Luz, Basse Pyrenees in France, widower, who died 24 January 1886 at St Jean de Luz was granted at the Principal Registry to Clara Eliza Craig of Hill House, Keston in the county of Kent, spinster, the daughter, and one of the next of kin.
His wife's death: Deaths Mar 1882 (>99%) CRAIG Eliza Ellen 55 Highworth 5a 4
Maybe Mary went with William to France??
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25 Nov 2018 22:39 |
I know it's not relevant to the Challenger family, but in case anyone's looking for her, Clara Eliza is badly entered in 1891 and 1901 censuses - YOB and POB both completely wrong. She was born 1852 in Newport, Monmouthshire.
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Clara E Craig in the 1891 England Census Name: Clara E Craig Gender: Female Age: 29 Relationship: Governess Birth Year: 1862 Birth Place: Manchester, Lancashire, England Civil Parish: Keston Residence Place: Keston, Keston, Kent, England Sub registration district: Bromley ED, Institution or Vessel: 36 Neighbors: Piece: 631 Folio: 75
Address: Hill House
Clara E Craig in the 1901 England Census Name: Clara E Craig Age: 30 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1871 Relation to Head: Servant Gender: Female Birth Place: London, England Civil Parish: Ludford Ecclesiastical parish: Ludford St Giles Town: Ludford County/Island: Shropshire Country: England Street address: Occupation: Governess <<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Registration district: Ludlow Sub-registration district: Ludlow ED, institution, or vessel: 11 Neighbors: Piece: 2503 Folio: 61 Page Number: 3 Household schedule number: 15
EDIT: YOB also wrong in 1881 when she's with her parents - says 1861.
Died 1928 in Wycombe reg district.
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helina
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26 Nov 2018 07:20 |
Thanks for the Craig information ArgyllGran, interesting.
Mary Challenger dies in 1884 so doubt if she went to France.
First name(s) Mary Last name Challenger Sex Female Age at death 83 Birth year 1801 Burial year 1884 Burial date 23 Nov 1884 Burial place Bristol, St Mary Redcliffe, Gloucestershire, England Place Bristol, St Mary Redcliffe Town Bristol County Gloucestershire Country England Archive Bristol Archives Archive reference Burials, 1868-1888 (P/St MR/R/4/3) Record set Gloucestershire, Bristol Burial Index Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Subcategory Parish Burials
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