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Cherilyn
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19 Nov 2018 06:30 |
Have tried in vain to find a record of this ship or its passengers.
It departed London or Plymouth in August 1885 bound for New Zealand, via Cape Town and Australian ports.
Looking for the Kelly family on board. Thanks in anticipation :-)
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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19 Nov 2018 07:22 |
Online travel info doesn't start till 1890 I,m afraid
Have you tried inward travel on the New Zealand records
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Dea
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19 Nov 2018 07:27 |
This gives detail of the ship's journey but no passenger names I am afraid:
https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/CHP18851001.2.3.4
You can search on the above site and there are MANY mentions of the Arawa and of its passenger lists so you may find something there, though it means a long trawl.
Dea x
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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19 Nov 2018 07:34 |
Any help
Scotland, Select Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950 No Image
Name: Elizabeth Jenkins Gender: Female Birth Date: 23 Jun 1870 Birth Place: Bridgeton,Glasgow,Lanark,Scotland Father: Gilbert Jenkins Mother: Elizabeth Turnbull FHL Film Number: 6035516
New Zealand, Marriage Index, 1840-1937 No Image Text-only collection Add alternate information Report issue Name: Elizabeth Turnbull Jenkins Gender: Female Marriage Year: 1898 Marriage Place: New Zealand Spouse: Thomas Kelly Relation: Bride (Wife) Folio Number: 1097
Name: Elizabeth Turnbull Kelly Death Date: Jul-Aug-Sep 1935 Registration Place: Invercargill, Southland, New Zealand Folio Number: 3078 Died 12 sept 1935
Thomas Kelly also died 1935 11 sept 1935
View New Zealand, Cemetery Records, 1800-2007 Add alternate information Report issue Name: Thomas Kelly Birth Date: abt 1863 Death Age: 72 Death Date: 11 Sep 1935 Death Place: Invercargill Burial Place: Southland, New Zealand Cemetery: Eastern
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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19 Nov 2018 07:35 |
Thomas Kelly was also born in Scotland
Name: Thomas Kelly Gender: Male Birth Date: 16 Apr 1863 Birth Place: Carluke,Lanark,Scotland Father: George Kelly Mother: Ann White FHL Film Number: 6035516 Save Cancel
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Cherilyn
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19 Nov 2018 11:10 |
Thanks Dea & Shirley.
No it is Rev John E. Kelly and his wife and 3 children. I'm not sure if they stopped at Australia before going to NZ (they later returned to SA).
At least I have the ship's name which is more than I had before (from Papers Past!)
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ArgyllGran
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19 Nov 2018 12:34 |
I assume this is a different man?? No family travelling with him
Reverend John Kelly in the UK, Outward Passenger Lists, 1890-1960 Name: Reverend John Kelly Gender: Male Age: 31 Birth Date: abt 1859 Departure Date: 21 Nov 1890 Port of Departure: London, England Destination Port: Melbourne, Australia Ship Name: Cuzco Master: J F Anderson
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ArgyllGran
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19 Nov 2018 12:45 |
Probably no passenger list here - just an advertisement for the ship:
EDIT: Far too early, anyway, if your Kellys only set off in August.
https://tinyurl.com/y7cmmgft
Shaw Savill & Albion Company, Limited :S.S. "Arawa". [Flier]. 9th May 1885 Date: 1885 By: Webster, Kenneth Athol, 1906-1967 Ref: Eph-A-SHIP-1885-01
Announces that the Arawa has arrived in New Zealand on 7 May, accomplishing the voyage in 40 days, the fastest voyage ever made to the Colony, from Britain. Describes the facilities on board.
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Dea
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19 Nov 2018 14:01 |
Have to go but I have just found this:
Your search found 5 records [1 of 5] Name KELLY, Vessel ARAWA: Departed:London via Plymouth, Teneriffe, Cape Town and Hobart 31 October 1889 Arrived:Wellington 17 December 1889 Notes Mrs, passengers for Auckland Source New Zealand herald 17 December 1889 [2 of 5] Name KELLY, E Vessel ARAWA: Arrived:Auckland Notes Reverend Source New Zealand Herald, 1 October 1885 [3 of 5] Name KELLY, E Vessel ARAWA: Arrived:Auckland Notes Mrs Source New Zealand Herald, 1 October 1885 [4 of 5] Name KELLY, E Vessel ARAWA: Arrived:Auckland Notes 3 children Source New Zealand Herald, 1 October 1885 [5 of 5] Name KELLY, Thomas Vessel ARAWA: Arrived:Auckland Notes Mr Source New Zealand Herald, 1 October 1885
Found here:
http://www.aucklandcity.govt.nz/dbtw-wpd/exec/dbtwpub.dll
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EDIT.
If the above link does not work try:
http://www.aucklandcity.govt.nz/dbtw-wpd/passengers/passenger.html
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Dea
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19 Nov 2018 14:07 |
Here they are:
https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/NZH18851001.2.9?end_date=01-10-1885&phrase=2&query=Arawa&start_date=01-10-1885&title=NZH&type=ARTICLE
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Cherilyn
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25 Nov 2018 08:35 |
Ooh so clever Dea, thank you!
Now I'm very curious about Thomas as he wasn't one of the children...this requires some investigation! :-)
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Cherilyn
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25 Nov 2018 09:04 |
:O
John had a brother Thomas who was 2 years older...! I wonder...
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Dea
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25 Nov 2018 09:42 |
Just a thought Cherilyn...........
Looking at the actual article in the newspaper it lists after the couples and families ............ Misses Downey, Cormack and Forbes, Messrs. Thomas, Kelly, Bushe, Taylor......................... etc....
I have looked through all the passengers and I cannot find another Mr. Kelly OR a Mr. Thomas. I just wonder if they have somehow merged the names. There would still be a Mr. Kelly though but he may not be a 'Thomas' Kelly and he may well not have any connection at all.
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