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Irish ancestor help SAMPSON MAYNARD/SAMSON/SAMUEL

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Carly

Carly Report 10 Nov 2018 17:00

Hi I have a SAMPSON MAYNARD/SAMSON/SAMUEL (SAMPSON ON 1861 CENSUS/SAMSON WHEN WITNESS ON IS DAUGHTERS MARIAGE CERT/ SAMUEL ON HIS MARRIAGE CERTIFICATE).... he was born c1835 Ireland married to ESTHER TEW IN ST PANCRAS. Im not sure when they came or he came to england or how i would find out.....they married and raised a young family and had an 11 year old ousekeepr called Ann Hill......... My problem is that these are the first Irish ancestors I have in my family and I'm totally green as to ,how to find their origin and parents etc.Can any one tell me where I should start as I have no county of birth except IRELAND. Thanks :-)

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 10 Nov 2018 17:15

For our reference:

Sampson Maynard
in the 1861 England Census
Name: Sampson Maynard
Age: 26
Estimated Birth Year: 1835
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Esther Maynard
Gender: Male
Where born: Ireland
Civil Parish: Islington
Ecclesiastical parish: St Andrew
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Registration district: Islington
Sub-registration district: Islington West
ED, institution, or vessel: 34
Neighbors:
Household schedule number: 324
Piece: 130
Folio: 120
Page Number: 56
Household Members:
Name Age
Sampson Maynard 26
Esther Maynard 24
Sampson Mayrand 7
Esther Mayrand 5
Emma Mayrand 3
Thomas Mayrand 1
Ann Hill 11


1871 and 1881 say he was born in Islington:



Samson Maynard
in the 1871 England Census
Name: Samson Maynard
Age: 37
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1834
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Esther Maynard
Gender: Male
Where born: Islington, Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: Islington St Andrew
Ecclesiastical parish: St Andrew
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: Islington
Sub-registration district: Islington West
ED, institution, or vessel: 44
Household schedule number: 178
Piece: 266
Folio: 18
Page Number: 30
Household Members:
Name Age
Samson Maynard 37
Esther Maynard 34
Samson Maynard 17
Esther Maynard 15
Emily Maynard 12
Thomas Maynard 10
Martha Maynard 7
Ellen J Maynard 1 Year, 8 Months



Samson Maynard
in the 1881 England Census
Name: Samson Maynard
Age: 48
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1833
Relationship to Head: Head
Spouse: Esther Maynard
Gender: Male
Where born: Islington, Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: Islington
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address: 43 Gifford Street
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Cab Proprieter
Registration district: Islington
Sub registration district: Islington West
ED, institution, or vessel: 43
Neighbors:
Piece: 237
Folio: 82
Page Number: 31
Household Members:
Name Age
Samson Maynard 48
Esther Maynard 43
Thomas Maynard 20
Esther Maynard 24
Emma Maynard 18
Ellen Maynard 11
George Maynard 7
Frederick Crisp 15

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 10 Nov 2018 17:27

Perhaps this is him ??



Sampson Mayrand
in the 1841 England Census
Name: Sampson Mayrand
[Sampson Maynard]
Age: 10
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1831
Gender: Male
Where born: Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: St Mary Islington West
Hundred: Ossulstone (Finsbury Division)
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Registration district: Islington
Sub-registration district: Islington West
Neighbors:
Piece: 665
Book: 11
Folio: 8
Page Number: 9
Household Members:
Name Age
Sampson Mayrand 40
Charlotte Mayrand 40
Sarah Mayrand 15
Eliza Mayrand 13
Sampson Mayrand 10
Martha Mayrand 4
Jesse Mayrand 1 6 Mo

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 10 Nov 2018 17:37

Parents' marriage

Samson Maynard
in the London, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1932
Name: Samson Maynard
Gender: Male
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 16 Sep 1821
Marriage Place: St Mary, Lambeth, Lambeth, England
Spouse: Charlotte Musselwhite
Register Type: Parish Register

Witnesses: Eliza Musselwhite and James Longman Gawler.
James Longman Gawler witnessed lots of marriages at that church, so not a relation.


Jessie's birth and death:

MAYNARD, JESSE MARIA mms MUSSELWHITE
GRO Reference: 1840 M Quarter in ST JAMES CLERKENWELL Volume 03 Page 79


Jesse Maria Maynard
in the London, England, Church of England Births and Baptisms, 1813-1917
Name: Jesse Maria Maynard
Gender: Male
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 28 Sep 1841
Baptism Place: Battle Bridge All Saints, Islington, England
Father: Sampson Maynard
Mother: Charlotte Maynard


Jesse Maria Maynard
in the London, England, Non-conformist Registers, 1694-1931
Name: Jesse Maria Maynard
Death Age: 1
Event Type: Burial
Birth Date: abt 1840
Burial Date: 5 Nov 1841
Burial Church: New Bunhill Fields Burial Ground
Burial Place: Islington, Middlesex, England


ADDED:

Father's death:

Deaths Jun 1874 (>99%)
MAYNARD Samson 76 Islington 1b 153

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 10 Nov 2018 17:45

I don't see Samson junior's birth or baptism.

Here are two older siblings:

William Maynard
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
christening:
4 May 1823
SAINT CLEMENT DANES, WESTMINSTER, LONDON, ENGLAND
father:
Sampson Maynard
mother:
Charlotte



Charlotte Mary Ann Maynard
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
christening:
16 January 1825
SAINT CLEMENT DANES, WESTMINSTER, LONDON, ENGLAND
father:
Sampson Maynard
mother:
Charlotte

alviegal

alviegal Report 10 Nov 2018 20:55

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census

43, Gifford Street, Islington, London & Middlesex, England

Sampson Maynard Head Widower Male 70 1831 Horse Dealer Islington, Middlesex, England
George Maynard Son Single Male 30 1871 Horse Dealer Islington, Middlesex, England
Henry W Wood Son-In-Law Widower Male 32 1869 Cab Proprietor Stepney, Middlesex, England



1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census

Gifford Street, Islington, London & Middlesex, England


Sampson Maynard Head Widower Male 63 1828 Horsekeeper London, Middlesex, England
Emily Maynard Daughter Single Female 30 1861 Dressmaker London, Middlesex, England
George Maynard Son Single Male 19 1872 Housekeeper London, Middlesex, England

alviegal

alviegal Report 10 Nov 2018 21:18

His marriage.

First name(s) Esther
Last name Tew
Name note -
Marriage year 1851
Marriage date 15 Sep 1851
Marriage place Saint Pancras
Spouse's first name(s) >>Samuel<<
Spouse's last name Maynard
County London
Country England

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 11 Nov 2018 13:05

Deaths Mar 1891 (>99%)
Maynard Esther 54 Islington 1b 230

Maddie

Maddie Report 11 Nov 2018 13:41

samsons brother ????


Name
Joseph Maynard
Gender
Male
Record Type
Baptism
Baptism Date
15 Jan 1835
Baptism Place
Islington Holy Trinity Islington, England
Father
Sampson Maynard
Mother
Charlotte Maynard



Name
Joseph Maynard
Gender
Male
Age
0
Birth Date
1835
Death Date
1835
Death Place
St. Islington
Burial Date
25 Jan 1835
Burial Place
London, England
FHL Film Number
596968
Reference ID




Maddie

Maddie Report 11 Nov 2018 13:59

did his father marry again

SAMSON
Last name MAYNARD
Marriage quarter 1
Marriage year 1844
Registration month -
SAMSON MAYNARD married one of these people
Elizabeth Henderson
Holborn
District number -
County London
Country England
Volume 2
Volume as transcribed 2
Page number 61

1871
Record Transcription:
1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census

Bemerton St, Upper, St Michael Islington, Islington, London & Middlesex, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Sampson Maynard Husband - Male 70 1801 - Surrey, England
Elizabeth Maynard Wife - Female 50 1821 - Scotland
Mary Maynard Daughter - Female 13 1858 - London, Middlesex, England

MAYNARD, MARY HENDERSON Order

1861
4, Blundell Street, St Marys Islington, Islington, London & Middlesex, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Samson Maynard Head Married Male 59 1802 Dairyman Wandsworth, Surrey, England
Elizabeth Maynard Wife Married Female 43 1818 - Scotland
Elizabeth Maynard Daughter - Female 12 1849 - Islington, Middlesex, England
Alexander Maynard Son - Male 10 1851 - Leith, Midlothian, Scotland
Mary Maynard Daughter - Female 3 1858 - Islington, Middlesex, England
Ellen Maynard Daughter - Female 0 1861 - Islington, Middlesex, England

1851


Name
Jamson Maynord
Age
50
Estimated Birth Year
abt 1801
Relationship
Head
Spouse
Elizabeth Maynord
Gender
Male
Where born
England
Parish Number
692/2
Civil parish
Leith South
Town
Leith
County
Midlothian
Address
Borvels Close
Occupation
Cow Keeper Dairyman
ED
34
Page
34
Household schedule number
157
Line
15
Roll
CSSCT1851_189
Household Members

NameAge
NameJamson Maynord
Age50
NameElizabeth Maynord
Age33
NameElizabeth Maynord
Age2
NameAlexr Maynord
Age1

Carly

Carly Report 22 Nov 2018 15:29

Thanks guys, not all is related to my family as far i can see, but i will need to look properly... in the meantime im going to try and see if there are any more living cousins . ... which would be from Arthur edward wheeler hall, any pointers grateful.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 22 Nov 2018 15:36

Look for his marriage - then follow through from there

Or find his death and see who the informant was by getting a copy of the cert

Presumably, his details are on one of your other threads about this family?

https://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/living_relatives/thread/1373791

https://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1373790

Carly

Carly Report 22 Nov 2018 15:46

Thanks Erikah, there seems to be a few as hall is quite a common name sadly, any other pointers welcome tho..... no it was maily about the mum and rachel but thats all claearer now, trust me to bit a bit thick and to have a compliacted family line i guess...