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Died at sea

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Dea

Dea Report 11 Nov 2018 11:16

If you order from the GRO site it will cost you £9.25.

From other sites you can pay up to around £40 !!!

Dea x

lee77

lee77 Report 11 Nov 2018 11:02

Thank you Dea I will see how i go and at what cost.

Dea

Dea Report 11 Nov 2018 07:27

Maddie has given you the numbers you need above - I will copy them here:

GEORGE A
Last name ANDREWS
Gender Male
Birth day -
Birth month -
Birth year 1908
Age 56
Death quarter 3
Death year 1964
District Newcastle upon Tyne
County Northumberland
Volume 1B ***
Page 108 ***

Order direct from GRO site.:
https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/menu.asp

Dea x

lee77

lee77 Report 11 Nov 2018 04:31

Thank you all for your replys

I have Alice and George's marraige cert in 1945 he was 36 yrs.George was a Bachelor. My mother Alice's daughter told me he died at sea,, maybe it was on his way back to Australia.

Alice was born in Wentworth NSW Australia and married in her later years. The Will and Probate seems to be correc.
I can see that his death is not 1957 on the Lisbeth M at sea but 1964 in Newcastle upon Tyne,maybe he was sick on the ship but died on land ? I could order his death cert but where do I find the order number. Regards sue

alviegal

alviegal Report 10 Nov 2018 20:44

Is this the same person who died in Northumberland, I wonder.

Record set Victoria Wills & Probate
First name(s) George Anthony
Sex Male
Last name Andrews
Grant year 1964
Death year 1964
Occupation Labourer
Residence Fitzroy
State Victoria
Country Australia
Nature of grant A
Death date 10 Aug 1964
Grant date 16 Dec 1964
To whom committed -
File number 619/105

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 10 Nov 2018 20:35

Alice Emily Andrews
in the Australia, Electoral Rolls, 1903-1980
Name: Alice Emily Andrews
Gender: Female
Electoral Year: 1968
Subdistrict: Fitzroy
State: Victoria
District: Melbourne
Country: Australia

Still at the same address where she had lived with George - but he's not listed, so the 1964 Newcastle death is probably the right one.

alviegal

alviegal Report 10 Nov 2018 20:26

Alice Emily's death.

Name: Alice Emily Andrews
Death Registration Year: 1988
Death Registration Place: Victoria, Australia
Father: Thomas William Coombe
Mother Maiden Name: Milligan
Reference Number: 27957



Alice Emily Andrews

in the Australia, Electoral Rolls, 1903-1980


Name: Alice Emily Andrews
Gender: Female
Electoral Year: 1963
Subdistrict: Fitzroy
State: Victoria
District: Scullin
Country: Australia

with George Anthony, a casting dresser.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 10 Nov 2018 20:18

If he and Alice were in Australia in 1963 and if the 1964 death in Newcastle is the correct one, he obviously returned 1963-4 - in which case he probably flew, and there won't be any record.

Lee77 - what makes you think he died en route?

alviegal

alviegal Report 10 Nov 2018 19:30

Is this him travelling TO Australia?

First name(s) George A
Last name Andrews
Title MR
Gender Male
Age 18
Birth year 1909
Occupation LABOURER
Departure year 1927
Departure day 29
Departure month 7
Departure port Liverpool
Destination port Melbourne
Destination MELBOURNE
State Victoria
Country Australia
Destination country Australia
Ship name Themistocles
Ship official number 129349
Ship master's first name A D
Ship master's last name YOUNG

Address 22 Evelyn Gardens, S Benwell, Newcastle.


Yes, here he is in 1911.

1911 Census For England & Wales

30 Evelyn Gardens Newcastle, Benwell, Northumberland, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
George Andrews Head Married Male 39 1872 Engineering Machinist Newbridge Nass Kildare Ireland Resident
Jessie Andrews Wife Married Female 35 1876 - Gateshead Co Durham
Charles Andrews Son Single Male 15 1896 Pony Driver In Coal Mine Gateshead Co Durham
William Andrews Son - Male 13 1898 School Council Gateshead Co Durham
Matilda Andrews Daughter Single Female 8 1903 - Gateshead Co Durham
>>George Auty Andrews Son - Male 2 1909 - Let Benwell Newcastle on Tyne North C E
Ellen Andrews Daughter - Female 0 1911 - Let Benwell Newcastle on Tyne North C E

Name down as George Ant, Andrews.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 10 Nov 2018 13:05

How do you know he died en route?

How do you know he was in Australia? What records do you have?

(Or is the marriage to Alice the correct one, which would answer my last two questions. But would mean he didn't die en route to England.)

Maddie

Maddie Report 10 Nov 2018 10:45

??
Name: George Anthony Andrews
Death Date: 10 Aug 1964
Death Place: Fitzroy
Occupation: Labourer
Grant Date: 16 Dec 1964Name: George Anthony Andrews

SO MAY NOT BE YOURS

Marked As Answer Marked as Answered

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 10 Nov 2018 10:41

Don't think that could be the right person as it's a British forces death

George
Last name Andrews
Birth year -
Death year 1957
Death date May 1957
Place Lisbeth M
Country Great Britain
Reported date 1957
Type At Sea
Vessel name Lisbeth M
Departure port -
War -
Source Deaths At Sea 1891 – 1972
Archive reference BT 334
Box 0111
Archive The National Archives
Record set British Armed Forces And Overseas Deaths And Burials
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Civil Deaths & Burials
Collections from Great Britain, UK None
© Findmypast
Is this the same person?
We've found the following potential record matches for the same person in other record sets

Your George was born 1908 so don't think he would be in the forces still in 1957
He would be about 49 . Could be a serving officer but seems a bit unlikely

Maddie

Maddie Report 10 Nov 2018 10:40

still there in 1963
GEORGE A
Last name ANDREWS
Gender Male
Birth day -
Birth month -
Birth year 1908
Age 56
Death quarter 3
Death year 1964
District Newcastle upon Tyne
County Northumberland
Volume 1B
Page 108

with alice

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 10 Nov 2018 10:31

Is this a possible?!

Victoria, Australia, Marriage Index, 1837-1950 No Image
Text-only collection
Name: George Anthony Andrews
[Geo Anthony Andrews]
Gender: Male
Marriage Registration Year: 1945
Marriage Registration Place: Victoria, Australia
Spouse: Alice Emily Coombe
Reference Number: 8934

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 10 Nov 2018 10:22

Was he married ??

Have you found any travel records

Maddie

Maddie Report 10 Nov 2018 10:17

there is this one
GEORGE A
Last name ANDREWS
Gender Male
Birth day -
Birth month -
Birth year 1908
Age 56
Death quarter 3
Death year 1964
District Newcastle upon Tyne
County Northumberland
Volume 1B
Page 108

lee77

lee77 Report 10 Nov 2018 09:42

George Anthony Andrews died while travelling to England from Australia after 1945. George was born 1908 Newcastle Upon Tyne Northumberland England. Father George ,Mother Jessie Irving. I have found a death 1957 at sea on Lisbeth M. I am not sure if this or the right person.
Thank you for any help.