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Mary Elizabeth Vickers was born 1869 Hoyland Barnsley Yorkshire, she married a Richard William Smith b 1864 Hoyland Barnsley.in 1885. They had a daughter Lily Smith b 1888, she went on to marry a Thomas Albert Baker in 1905
, The marriage broke down for Mary Elizabeth and Richard William Smith, I know that William was at his daughters house . from 1929 to 1931, this was Charles Mapplebeck and Lily as Lily had left her husband by about 1909 and moved in with Charles. at 7 Guest Street Hoyland
I think I have now found Mary Elizabeth nee Vickers formerly Smith, living with a Thomas Swailes and having a son in 1893 called Albert Edward in Normanton Yorkshire,(I have Alberts birth cert, and it gives his mother as Elizabeth nee Vickers formerly Smith on the cert. By 1911 I have a William Smith and a Albert Smith living with the Mapplebecks, I no at a loss as to if this Albert could be lily's brother,
as yet I have not managed to find a marriage for Elizabeth to Thomas Swailes.

for ref
1911 Census For England & Wales

9 Hunningley Lane Stairfoot Ardsley, Ardsley, Yorkshire & Yorkshire (West Riding), England
Charles Mapplebeck's Household Members
Members that resided in the household at the time of the census.
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Charles Mapplebeck Head Married Male 39 1872 Miner Hewer Yorks Chapeltown
Laura Mapplebeck Wife Married Female 24 1887 - Yorks Hoyland Nether
Caroline Mapplebeck Daughter - Female 1 1910 - Yorks Stairfoot
Edith Mapplebeck Daughter - Female 0 1911 - Yorks Stairfoot
William Smith Boarder Widower Male 45 1866 Organ Grinder Yorks Jump
Albert Smith Boarder Single Male 17 1894 Miner Trammer Yorks Normanton
Leonard Stott Boarder Single Male 17 1894 Roperunner Under Ground Yorks Sheffield

is this albert 1901
12, West View, Normanton, Wakefield, Yorkshire & Yorkshire (West Riding), England
Thomas Smith Head Married Male 52 1849 Coal Miner Hewer Kingswinford, Staffordshire, England
Drucilla Smith Wife Married Female 47 1854 - Oldbury, Staffordshire, England
Gertrude Smith Daughter Single Female 18 1883 - Normanton, Yorkshire, England
Frances Smith Daughter Single Female 16 1885 General Servant Domestic Normanton, Yorkshire, England
Alfred Smith Son Single Male 14 1887 Pony Driver Coal Mine Normanton, Yorkshire, England
Clara Smith Daughter Single Female 12 1889 - Normanton, Yorkshire, England
William Smith Son - Male 11 1890 - Normanton, Yorkshire, England
Albert Smith Son - Male 8 1893 - Normanton, Yorkshire, England
Percy Smith Son - Male 6 1895 - Normanton, Yorkshire, England
Ivy Smith Daughter - Female 2 1899 - Normanton, Yorkshire, England
John Davies Boarder Single Male 34 1867 Coal Miner Hewer Neath, Glamorganshire, Wales
George Bayliss Boarder Single Male 45 1856 Coal Miner Hewer

SMITH, ALBERT HARTSHORN Order
GRO Reference: 1892 S Quarter in WAKEFIELD Volume 09C Page 19

THOMAS
Last name SMITH
Marriage quarter 3
Marriage year 1875
Registration month -

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THOMAS SMITH married one of these people

Martha Tunnicliff, Drucilla Hartshorn
District Wakefield
District number -
County Yorkshire
Country England
Volume 9C
Volume as transcribed 9C
Page number 22

or


Results:
Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: Order:
SMITH, ALBERT ATKINSON Order
GRO Reference: 1893 J Quarter in WAKEFIELD Volume 09C Page 23 Order
SMITH, ALBERT WALSHAW Order
GRO Reference: 1893 S Quarter in WAKEFIELD Volume 09C Page 46 Order
SMITH, ALBERT BEDFORD Order
GRO Reference: 1894 S Quarter in WAKEFIELD Volume 09C Page 84 Order
SMITH, ALBERT WATSON Order
GRO Reference: 1894 S Quarter in WAKEFIELD Volume 09C Page 67 Order
SMITH, ALBERT EDWARD CHAPPELL Order
GRO Reference: 1895 D Quarter in WAKEFIELD Volume 09C Page 69 Order
SMITH, ALBERT VICTOR WHITEHEAD Order
GRO Reference: 1894 M Quarter in WAKEFIELD Volume 09C Page 67 Order

can't see a male smith / vickers birth c 1893

Thomas Swailes was Albert's father according to his cert.
I would be looking for a Mary Elizabeth Vickers marring a Thomas Swailes

probably didn't marry as not divorced ?

That is what her daughter Lily did, she just took up with another man

Albert 's name on his birth cert. is Albert Edward Swailes

i don't think it was unusual in those days

so true, having said that it is not so unusual these days

have you found albert edward in the census
this is all i have found if indeed they are him
Swailes Albert Edward 1893 — 1893 England & Wales Births 1837-2006 Wakefield, Yorkshire, England

Swailes Albert E — — 1923 England & Wales Marriages 1837-2005

Swailes Albert E — — 1945 British Armed Forces And Overseas Deaths And Burials Great Britain
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Swailes Albert E — — 1946 England & Wales Marriages 1837-2005 Wharfedale, Yorkshire, England

1923 marriage not his

1939
160 Low Lane , Horsforth U.D., Yorkshire (West Riding), England
Doris Swailes 04 Nov 1898 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 43 2
Albert E Swailes 07 Jul 1899 Male Heavy Worker Married 43 1

I think this is the 1911 William and Albert in 1901 - rather than the 1901 posted above by Maddie:

William Smith
in the 1901 England Census
Name: William Smith
Age: 35
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1866
Relation to Head: Boarder
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Jump, Yorkshire, England <<<<<<<<<
Civil Parish: Great Houghton
Ecclesiastical parish: Darfield All Saints
Town: Great Houghton
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Street address:
Registration district: Hemsworth
Sub-registration district: Hemsworth
ED, institution, or vessel: 28
Neighbors:
Piece: 4308
Folio: 148
Page Number: 5
Household schedule number: 37
Household Members:
Name Age
Edward Farmer 34
Ann Farmer 32
Kate Farmer 10
Percy Farmer 9
Florence Farmer 3
William Smith 35 - married, coal miner (hewer)
Albert Smith 7 - boarder's son, born Normanton


William in 1891 (mistranscribed on Ancestry as Bills):

William Bills
in the 1891 England Census
Name: William Bills
[William Smith]
Gender: Male
Age: 26
Relationship: Son
Birth Year: 1865
Father: Thomas Bills
Mother: Emma Bills
Birth Place: Jump, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Nether Hoyland
Residence Place: Nether Hoyland, Nether Hoyland, Yorkshire, England
Sub registration district: Darfield
ED, Institution or Vessel: 19
Neighbors:
Piece: 3780
Folio: 128
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Bills 44 - head
Emma Bills 46 - wife
William Bills 26 - son, married, collier
Mary E Bills 19 - married, daughter [ Dewhurst on image ]
Fred Bills 18 son [ Smith on image ]
Richard Bills 13 - son
Arthur Bills 11 - son
Luther Bills 9 - son
Violetta Bills 4 - daughter
Emma J Bills 5 - daughter
George Dewhurst 24 - son-in-law



ADDED:

William Smith
in the 1871 England Census
Name: William Smith
Age: 6
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865
Relation: Son
Father's name: Richard Smith
Mother's name: Emma Smith
Gender: Male
Where born: Jump Wombwell, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Hoyland
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Registration district: Barnsley
Sub-registration district: Darfield
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Household schedule number: 241
Piece: 4650
Folio: 79
Page Number: 41
Household Members:
Name Age
Richard Smith 28 - Kingswinford, Staffs.
Emma Smith 25
William Smith 6
Thomas Smith 3

nice find :-)

Thank you all for the help you are giving me, I would like to explain about the 1891 census, it is not a miss transcribe, Emma remarries after her her first husband Richard Smith is killed in the Swaith Main mining disaster of 06/12/1875, he was just 29 years old, Emma was married to Thomas Bills 12 months later on Christmas day 1876.

Moira ..........

it was all but impossible for almost anyone except very rich people to get a divorce right up until the 1920s or even 1930s as it cost so much money, and there were only 1 or 2 reasons for a divorce to be granted.

Plus it was a great disgrace to get divorced ............ although that didn't seem to always stop those who were wealthy enough!

So all ordinary folk could do was either move in and live common-law or commit bigamy, because marriages did break down back then at least as often as they do today.

Re 1891 -
it is a mistranscription as far as William and Fred are concerned.
In the image of the original document their surname is Smith, but it has been transcribed on Ancestry as Bills.

I did realise that their mother had remarried to Thomas Bills.