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29 Oct 2018 10:42 |
Another opinion please.
The starting point was this
Norman Aubrey Taylor Gender: Male Age: 10 Birth Date: abt 1922 Departure Date: 10 Jun 1932 Port of Departure: London, England Destination Port: Melbourne, Australia Ship Name: Balranald Shipping line: P and O Steam Navigation Company Official Number: 145597 Master: C E Short
Travelling with a Mrs Mahala Taylor whom I believe was mmn Clayton, marrying Frank Norman Taylor in 1919 in Brighton.
I'd assumed this was his death Norman Aubrey Taylor Birth Date: 15 May 1924 Death Date: 21 Dec 1988 Cemetery: Pinegrove Memorial Park Burial or Cremation Place: Minchinbury, Blacktown City, New South Wales, Australia Has Bio?: N URL: https://www.findagrave.com/mem...
However.....a new 'hint' has popped up from Fold3 which throws a spanner in the works. I can't find it on the Australian National Archives
Name: Norman Aubrey Taylor Birth Date: 6 Oct 1921 Birth Place: Brighton Sussex England Year Range: 1921 - 1948 Enlistment Place: Melbourne Service Number: 13379 Father: Frank Taylor Series Description: A9301: RAAF, NCOs and Other Ranks
So..... - are there 2 different men born in the same decade to account for the Findagrave memorial? - where is the UK birth?
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29 Oct 2018 11:36 |
parents marriage FRANK N Last name TAYLOR Marriage quarter 4 Marriage year 1914 Registration month -
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FRANK N TAYLOR married one of these people
Mahala Clayton Spouse's last name Clayton District Brighton District number - County Sussex Country England Volume 2B
the 1924 norman Name: Aubrey Norman Taylor Birth Date: 15 May 1924 Birth Place: Surry Hills New South Wales Year Range: 1939 - 1948 Enlistment Place: Marrickville New South Wales Service Number: N249318 Next of Kin: Irene Woodley Series Description: B884: Army Citizen Military Forces
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29 Oct 2018 11:47 |
1921 norman Norman Aubrey Taylor
BillionGraves Index birth: 6 October 1921 death: 27 July 2010 burial: Bangholme, Victoria, Australia
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29 Oct 2018 12:00 |
??? Name: Mahel Taylor Arrival Age: 56 Birth Date: 25 Mar 1900 Port of Departure: Sydney, Australia Arrival date: 8 Jun 1956 Port of Arrival: London, England Ports of Voyage: Sydney; Melbourne; Adelaide; Fremantle; Colombo; Bombay; Aden; Suez and Port Said Ship Name: Iberia Shipping line: P and O Steam Navigation Company Ltd Official Number: 4637/01 Search Ship Database: Search for the Iberia in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
going to 2 cumming ave canterbury for 3 months
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29 Oct 2018 12:08 |
From https://trove.nla.gov.au The Herald (Melbourne, Vic. : 1861 - 1954) Tuesday 17 June 1947
A gown of ivory marquisette, with a berthe of lace which was worn by her mother on her wedding dress, has been chosen by Miss Nancy Ethel Roediger, for her marriage this afternoon to Mr Norman Aubrey Taylor, at Wesley Church. THE neckline is fin ished with a bow of the material, with a similar bow at the waist, . and the full skirt falls into a train. Her ivory net veil will flow from an orange blossom coronet, and she will carry white cactus dahlias. Her only orna ment. will be an antique gold and pearl necklet, lent by Mrs Ian Roediger. The bride is the eldest daugh ter of Mr and Mrs C. H. Roediger. of "Grafton." Nhill, and will be attended by her sis ters, Beryl and Betty, wearing aqua green crepe frocks, with peplums, and carrying deep red roses to match the flowers in their hair. The bridegroom, the only child of Mr and Mrs F. Taylor, of Warrnambool, will be sup ported by Messrs Ian Roediger and Derek Holten. The Rev. C. H. Plummer will officiate.
Is this the Norman born 1921?
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29 Oct 2018 12:09 |
Have you found a birth reg for Norman?
I certainly can't see one
Was Clayton definitely the maiden name for Mahala?
She was 39 in 1922 - can't see a birth to fit
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First name(s) MAHALLIE Last name CLAYTON Birth year 1893 Birth quarter 1 Registration month - Mother's maiden name - District Brighton County Sussex Country England Volume 2B Page 271
CLAYTON, MAHALLIE BRAY GRO Reference: 1893 M Quarter in BRIGHTON Volume 02B Page 271
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29 Oct 2018 12:28 |
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Name Mahala Dann Age in 1911 18 Estimated Birth Year abt 1893 Relation to Head Daughter Gender Female Birth Place Brighton, Sussex Civil parish Brighton Search Photos Brighton, Sussex, England County/Island Sussex Country England Street Address 1 Gerrards Court King Street Brighton Sussex Marital Status Single Occupation Laundry Packer Registration district Brighton Registration District Number 79 Sub-registration district West Brighton ED, institution, or vessel 29 Household schedule number 90 Piece 5149 Household Members
NameAge NameMary Ann Dann Age51 NameGeorge Dann Age29 NameLizzie Dann Age19 NameMahala Dann Age18 NameElsie Dann Age16 NameEva Dann Age14
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Name Mahala Dann Age 8 Estimated Birth Year abt 1893 Relation to Head Daughter Gender Female Father George Dann Mother Mary Dann Birth Place Brighton, Sussex, England Civil parish Brighton Search Photos Brighton, Sussex, England Ecclesiastical parish Brighton St Mary Magdalene County/Island Sussex Country England Registration district Brighton Sub-registration district West Brighton ED, institution, or vessel 41 Piece 934 Folio 33 Page number 15 Household schedule number 106 Household Members
NameAge NameGeorge Dann Age42 NameMary Dann Age41 NameMary Dann Age21 NameGeorge Dann Age19 NameRose Dann Age19 NameEdith Dann Age15 NameRichard Dann Age13 NameElizabeth Dann Age10 NameMahala Dann Age8 NameElsie Dann Age6
husbands death
Name Frank Norman Taylor 1972 Death Registration Place Victoria, Australia Father Frank Taylor Mother Maiden Name Faulkner Reference Number 18935 Household Members
parents marraige for mahallie Marriage 20 Jun 1881 • Saint Peter, Brighton, Sussex, England George Henry Borrer Clayton mary ann bray
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29 Oct 2018 12:34 |
Is this the 1924 one? The Daily Telegraph (Sydney, NSW : 1931 - 1954) Sunday 3 August 1947
Two men were injured when a truck in which they were travelling and a tram collided in Mitchell Road, Alex andria, at 6.17 p.m. yesterday. They are; Pte. Gordon McDovan, L.T.D., Mar- . rlckville, injuries to hip and shock. >>Aubrey Norman Taylor<<, believed to be from Maroubra, shock, probable fractured skull, and internal injuries.
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29 Oct 2018 12:41 |
Name Frank M Taylor Gender Male Age 30 Birth Date abt 1893 Departure Date 20 Sep 1923 Port of Departure London, England Destination Port Melbourne, Australia Ship Name Beltana Search Ship Database Beltana Shipping Line P & O Branch Service Official Number 131853 Master Captain C H Allin
travelling with wife mahala and norman aged 1 he was a plumber address 39 lowther road brighton
Australia, World War II Military Service Records, 1939-1945 View Record
Name Frank Taylor Year range 1921 - 1948 Child Norman Aubrey Taylor Series Description A9301: RAAF, NCOs and Other Ranks
???? Name: Mahala Taylor Death Age: 97 Birth Date: 28 May 1893 Registration Date: Oct 1990 Registration district: Bournemouth Inferred County: Dorset Volume: 23 Page: 223
Mahala Taylor
in the Australia, Electoral Rolls, 1903-1980
Name: Mahala Taylor Gender: Female Electoral Year: 1942 Subdistrict: Warrnambool State: Victoria District: Wannon Country: Australia
Name: Mahala Taylor Gender: Female Electoral Year: 1954 Subdistrict: Warrnambool State: Victoria District: Wannon Country: Australia
with frank
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29 Oct 2018 13:13 |
Thank you for the extra information - its a great help <3
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29 Oct 2018 13:57 |
Mahallie Taylor died 1968 Victoria Australia mum Mary Ann Bray father Dann Clayton.
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29 Oct 2018 19:21 |
Thank you Mary. I'd assumed it was the Bournemouth one
Name: Mahala Taylor Death Age: 97 Birth Date: 28 May 1893 Registration Date: Oct 1990 Registration district: Bournemouth Inferred County: Dorset Volume: 23 Page: 223
Haven't been able to look in detail at all the replies but hope to do so tomorrow.
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30 Oct 2018 10:13 |
Just collecting the 2 military records together in one place
Name: Norman Aubrey Taylor Birth Date: 6 Oct 1921 <<<< Birth Place: Brighton Sussex England <<<< Year Range: 1921 - 1948 Enlistment Place: Melbourne Service Number: 13379 Father: Frank Taylor <<<< Series Description: A9301: RAAF, NCOs and Other Ranks
the 1924 norman Name: Aubrey Norman Taylor Birth Date: 15 May 1924 Birth Place: Surry Hills New South Wales Year Range: 1939 - 1948 Enlistment Place: Marrickville New South Wales Service Number: N249318 Next of Kin: Irene Woodley Series Description: B884: Army Citizen Military Forces
I'm inclined to think that there were 2 Aubrey Norman/Norman Aubrey Taylor's, the one who married Nancy Ethel Roediger being mine.
The burial being
BillionGraves Index birth:6 October 1921 <<<<< death:27 July 2010 burial:Bangholme, Victoria, Australia
Thank you so much for sorting it out!
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30 Oct 2018 22:12 |
Norman was possibly adopted, Only child born 7 years after the marriage,
There is this:
Births Dec 1921 Hart Norman A Hart Steyning 2b 412
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30 Oct 2018 22:34 |
Its certainly a possibility & Norman Hart seems a good fit. Thank you for the time taken to trawl through to find it!
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31 Oct 2018 09:51 |
Someone with a closed tree on Ancestry has Norman Aubrey Hart born Steyning as Norman Aubrey Taylor!
It says Jason Graham's Family tree.
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31 Oct 2018 10:17 |
Interesting!
Its too early for the BC to amended, isn't it? Not really worth sending for the Hart BC. At least a message to the tree owner might bring a result, unless he's made the same assumptions as here. Done - don't think the tree holder is necessarily related. They seem to have created the tree for someone else. As they live Down Under, it is in the right neck of the woods!
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1 Nov 2018 10:23 |
alviegal asked if the Norman Aubrey Taylor who had the accident in Egypt was the 1924 one.
Looking up on a map, Maroubra is in NSW, while Warranambool is in Victoria. On that basis, he's likely to be the 1924 N.A.Taylor
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