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Charles Cockin born 1895 Halesowen

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Kelzi

Kelzi Report 28 Oct 2018 10:26

I thought of that Shirley,looked for it,but still couldn't find it.

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 28 Oct 2018 10:11

Catherine was born Isle of Man. Wonder if Eleanor was born there too and isn't George's natural daughter

Kelzi

Kelzi Report 28 Oct 2018 10:04

THANK YOU everyone.It's Eleanors birthplace that's baffling us? Her EXACT DOB is on the 1939 register.On everything she's listed as born Barrow-in-Furness in 1893-there's no record of it.Checked every Eleanor-including McKay. Her mother-Catherine was from the Isle of Man,so checked there as well.Checked all over the UK for her birth & still can't find it?

Christina(Lancashire)

Christina(Lancashire) Report 28 Oct 2018 10:02

Robert & Edward mother's maiden name Kneale. Mother's 1st marriage?

Name: Catherine Jane Kneale
Gender: Female
Marriage Date: 22 Aug 1875
Marriage Place: Saint Barnabas,Douglas,Isle of Man,England
Spouse: William Henry Mc Kay
FHL Film Number: 106186, 106187

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 28 Oct 2018 09:48

Here's Robert E

Births Mar 1901
Collenso Robert Edward Barrow F. 8e 800

Births Mar 1898
COLLENSO George Thomas Barrow F. 8e 843

Births Jun 1895
Colenso Fanny Matilda Barrow F 8e 856

Not seeing Eleanor probably another misspelling

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 28 Oct 2018 09:42

1901 census

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Name: Nellie Clenza
Age: 8
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1893
Relation to Head: Daughter
Gender: Female
Father: George Clenza
Mother: Catherine Clenza
Birth Place: Barrow, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Barrow in Furness
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Ecclesiastical parish: St Mark
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Barrow in Furness
Sub-registration district: Barrow in Furness
ED, institution, or vessel: 17
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4012
Folio: 127
Page Number: 42
Household schedule number: 216
Household Members:
Name Age
George Clenza 33
Catherine Clenza 42
Nellie Clenza 8
Fannie Clenza 6
George T Clenza 3
Robert E Clenza 3/12

Children all born Barrow

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 28 Oct 2018 09:37

This looks like her on the 1911census

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Name: Elenor Colenso
Age in 1911: 18
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1893
Relation to Head: Daughter
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Barrow In Furness
Civil Parish: Barrow in Furness
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County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address: 60 Emlyn Street
Marital Status: Single
Occupation: Mineral Water Works
Registration district: Barrow in Furness
Registration District Number: 482
Sub-registration district: Barrow in Furness
ED, institution, or vessel: 16
Piece: 25666
Household Members:
Name Age
George Colenso 43
Kate Colenso 53
Elenor Colenso 18
Fanny Colenso 16
George Colenso 13
Edward Colenso 10

Married 11 years 4 children born all living

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 28 Oct 2018 09:36

Births:
COCKIN, CHARLES (Mother's maiden name: MATHEWS)
GRO Reference: 1894 S Quarter in STOURBRIDGE Volume 06C Page 138

COCKIN, WILLIAM THOMAS (Mother's maiden name: MATHEWS)
GRO Reference: 1891 S Quarter in STOURBRIDGE Volume 06C Page 154

Possible marriage:

Marriages Dec 1876
COCKIN Joseph Dudley 6c 111
Matthews Jane Dudley 6c 111
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Joseph and Annie are only listed as married 10 years in 1911- so Annie looks to be a second partner of Joseph.

Joseph and Jane had other children:

1891:
Name: Joseph Cockin
Gender: Male
Age: 32
Relationship: Head
Birth Year: 1859
Birth Place: Hasbury, Worcestershire, England
Civil Parish: Hasbury
Residence Place: Hasbury, Hasbury, Worcestershire, England
Sub registration district: Halesowen
ED, Institution or Vessel: 5 Piece: 2299 Folio: 94

Household Members:
Name Age
Joseph Cockin 32
Jane Cockin 35
Martha Cockin 14
George Cockin 11
Joseph Cockin 8
Mary Ann Cockin 5
Arthur Cockin 3

Christina(Lancashire)

Christina(Lancashire) Report 28 Oct 2018 09:36

Parents marriage.....
Marriages Sep 1900 (>99%)
Callenso George Barrow F. 8e 1641
McKay Catherine Jane Barrow F. 8e 1641 click to view

Perhaps she was registered as McKay?

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 28 Oct 2018 09:30

Def her maiden name

Births Mar 1919 (>99%)
Cockin Frances M Colenso Barrow F. 8e 907
Births Dec 1921 (>99%)
Cockin George J Colenso Barrow F. 8e 1271
Births Mar 1932 (>99%)
Cockin Charles T Colenso Barrow F 8e. 887

Kelzi

Kelzi Report 28 Oct 2018 09:12

Yes,George Colenso.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 28 Oct 2018 09:09

Does she give a father’s name?

Look for a birth for Charles on the GRO site where MMN is given

Kelzi

Kelzi Report 28 Oct 2018 08:48

This person married Eleanor Colenso in Barrow-in-Furness in 1918.On the 1911 census his parents are given as Joseph & Qannie,looking at image,it's clearly Annie.I can't find Joseph & Annies marriage,nor can I find them on any census's before then.I think I've got Charles on the 1901 census aged 6 as a boarder? If anyone could help with any info ?
Eleanor Colenso is said to have been born in Barrow-in-Furness in 1893-I can't find her birth in Barrow-in-Furness- - - or anywhere?