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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 27 Oct 2018 13:43

The following gives the names & dates of birth of his childen

British Royal Air Force, Airmen's service records 1912-1939

Albert William Henry
Last name Banner
Birth year 1896
Birth date 02 Oct 1896
Birth town London
Birth county Middlesex
Occupation Mechanic
Attestation year 1923
Attestation date 27 Sep 1923
Attestation age 26
Service number 355956
Marriage year 1920
Marriage date 06 Nov 1920
Spouse's first name(s) Edith Mary
Spouse's last name Wheelhouse

Child's first name(s) Cyril Albert William
Child's birth date 01 Jun 1921

Child 2 first name(s) Joyce Edith Beryl
Child 2 birth date 23 May 1924

Child 3 first name(s) Edith Barbara
Child 3 birth date 08 May 1926

Archive reference AIR 79/2921

Although I've been able to confirm the older 2 (& 2 others b 1933 & 1936) can find nothing for Edith Barbara born Hitchin Herts.

Albert & family were in Stafford by 1939. He seems to be a career RAF technician/fitter. He & the family were living on base at Henlow, Bedfordshire when the form was completed in, possibly, 1924. Edith's name is a later addition.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 27 Oct 2018 13:50

No records of any type for Edith B Banner on FMP or freebmd, as I'm sure you've already discovered

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 27 Oct 2018 13:53

Nop, for Ancestry or a birth on Freebmd. Its as if she's vanished into thin air? Perhaps she was adopted but that doesn't explain her total disappearance :-S

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 27 Oct 2018 13:57

1939 has three closed records (Joyce is listed)

Births Sep 1921 (>99%)
Banner Cyril A W Wheelhouse Hammersmith 1a 382

Births Jun 1924 (>99%)
Banner Joyce E B Wheelhouse Hammersmith 1a 294

Births Dec 1933 (>99%)
Banner Pauline M Wheelhouse Stepney 1c 329

Births Sep 1936 (>99%)
Banner Peter E Wheelhouse Hitchin 3a 1501


Not relevant at this time
Births Mar 1941 (>99%)
Banner John W Wheelhouse Stafford 6b 16

Births Dec 1944 (>99%)
Banner June M Wheelhouse Stafford 6b 36

malyon

malyon Report 27 Oct 2018 14:09

no marriage for a edith barbara

malyon

malyon Report 27 Oct 2018 14:13

Deaths Sep 1953 (>99%)
BANNER Albert W H 56 Stafford 9b 300

Deaths Sep 1981 (99%)
BANNER EDITH MARY 4OC1898 STAFFORD 30 1006

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 27 Oct 2018 14:52

Nothing for Edith Barbara!! I did wonder if she was evacuated overseas but then you'd have expected other siblings to go as well.

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 28 Oct 2018 08:30

I'm presuming the transcription of his NOK is incorrect, but ancestry has this record (original on fold3):

Royal Air Force Airmen Records, 1918-1940
Name: Albert William Henry Banner
Gender: Male
Age: 26
Birth Date: 2 Oct 1896
Birth Place: Plaistow, London, London, England
Service Date: 27 Sep 1923
Service Number: 355956
Spouse: Ann Banner
Next of Kin: Ann Banner
Relation to Airman: Wife
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Can't see anything for Edith, but she would fit nicely in the large gap between other children.

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 28 Oct 2018 10:59

The Ancestry version is incorrect - the original, with image, was from FMP.

Edith''s yob does look like 1926. I can't see what else it could be. To fit in with the other births, it must have been between Joyce's in May 1924 & Pauline Myra Banner 4Q 1933. (she died 2014)
I've tried both Banner & Bonner mmn Wheelhouse as well as without mmn.
I've even mucked around with Wheelhouse in case she was Edith Mary's niece or something.

Albert W H Banner's religion is stated to be Wesleyn. Trying to think laterally, could she have become a missionary & gone overseas? But that doesn't explain why there's no birth record. Grrr

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 28 Oct 2018 11:05

Relevant section from the image uploaded

https://www.genesreunited.co.uk/keepsafe/asset/details/82572355

Both Cyril and Joyce have died.