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Winifred M Eatherley .

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ErikaH

ErikaH Report 30 Oct 2018 09:52

Tania

The way to look for births is to go to the freebmd site and put in the mother's maiden name of Eatherley, and follow-up on any results

When did she part from her husband? Did they divorce?

Look for births after that time.....................

https://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl

The 1976 marriage is not relevant to your family

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 30 Oct 2018 09:00

If the Winifred that married William Durrant was born 1900, then it looks as though her older brother, Owen, went to the US.

I'm struggling to see a death for Winifred's mother

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 30 Oct 2018 08:32

Or she may have gone to live abroad.

If she stayed in the UK, it's a pity we don't know her exact DOB, as we could perhaps have found her death from forenames and DOB, as suggested by Shirley.

The only way to know that would be if you were to buy a copy of the 1900 birth cert, Tania.

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 30 Oct 2018 07:36

So she was the lady born 1911 then so rules her out

So if Winifred left and took up with another man and there was no divorce she probably took on a different surname

There no more births with mmn Eatherley so seems she didn't have more children

She hasn't been picked up for the 1939 reg or at least she is a closed record

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 30 Oct 2018 07:19

Hi Tania,

The 1976 marriage posted by Shirley is not for your Winifred. The Winifred that married Leslie Joyce was born in April 1911. (your Winifred must have been older as she married in 1919). This is confirmed on the 1939 register, where Winifred M Eatherley born 28 April 1911 has a later entry recording the surname Joyce.

Tania-Lariane Sharen

Tania-Lariane Sharen Report 29 Oct 2018 23:28

Is there any way to track down the children that Winifred m durrant had. I looked into her second marriage to Leslie C Joyce, it checked out. I am in Canada, so not sure to find out how many children she had. Where would that be registered please? Thank you. Tania

Tania-Lariane Sharen

Tania-Lariane Sharen Report 29 Oct 2018 18:02

I have no info on her bd, just when she married. I am truly thankful on what e Rey one has found out so far. This has always been on my bucket list to try and find someone from her family. To see if she went on to have more children. I promised my dad (who has passed) I would do my. Set to find out what I could. Tania :-0

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 29 Oct 2018 09:19

She would have been 76 - which doesn't of course rule it out.

There are no marriages of an Eatherley to a Winifred, so the wife in that marriage must have been born Eatherley.

Whichever of the two Winifred Eatherleys the wife in that marriage was, I don't see her death.

Possiblly the death of the husband in that marriage ??

Leslie Charles Joyce
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: Leslie Charles Joyce
Death Age: 83
Birth Date: 9 Jul 1913
Registration Date: Nov 1996
Registration district: Swansea
Inferred County: West Glamorgan
Register Number: C119
District and Subdistrict: 8971C

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 29 Oct 2018 09:09

The above marriage was in 1976

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 29 Oct 2018 08:47

Winifred is definitely Winifred Mary

Wonder if she remarried


MarriageFinder ™
WINIFRED M EATHERLEY married one of these people
Leslie C Joyce
Spouse's last name Joyce
District Swansea
District number -
County Glamorganshire
Country Wales
Volume 27
Volume as transcribed 27
Page number 0853
Record set England & Wales Marriages 1837-2005


There are only 2 births for the name 1900 & one in 1911 West Ham reg district

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 29 Oct 2018 08:35

If the 1939 register for William A Durrant is correct, then this is him at the same address in 1933- note the Winifred living there has middle name Elizabeth:

1933/ 1934
Westfield Cottages, Hathersham Farm, Reigate, Surrey
William Arthur Durrant
Winifred Elizabeth Durrant

Winifred is not at the address from 1935

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 29 Oct 2018 05:39

It would seem they parted after Joan was born and between 1939

If they never divorced then she may have taken on a new surname

It may be possibly to find her death with her Christian names and actual date of birth

Long shot but worth trying

Not seeing any possible birth mmn Eatherley after 1930 that would fit with being Winifred's child

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 29 Oct 2018 05:36

PM from Tania

William didn't remarry !'


Tania please reply on the thread by going to the bottom of the thread and typing in the white box

Clicking on a reply only sends a personal message to the person and doesn't show on the thread

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 28 Oct 2018 20:18

I think that is more likely ErikaH.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 28 Oct 2018 20:00

It seems improbable that Winifred had an illegitimate child between two legitimate ones. Had it been during the War, it would have been less so

Could Winifred V have been the child of a sister - named for her aunt?

Dorothy Bernice died in 1927 in Lewes district

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 28 Oct 2018 17:49

If that is the death of Winifred's mother's husband, then either Winifred's birth was a late registration or Edward wasn't her father.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 27 Oct 2018 12:40

EATHERLEY, EDWARD 29
GRO Reference: 1898 D Quarter in PETERBOROUGH Volume 03B Page 14

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 27 Oct 2018 12:17

1901

Arthur Prince Head Single Male 35 1866 Coachman (Not Domestic) Birmingham, Warwickshire, England
Jessie Eathersley House Keeper Married Female 28 1873 Housekeeper Domestic London, Middlesex, England
Dorothy Eathersley Daughter Single Female 4 1897 - Peterborough, Northamptonshire, England
Winifred Eathersley Daughter Single Female 1 1900 - Peterborough, Northamptonshire, England
Arthur P Eathersley Son Single Male 0 1901 - Peterborough, Northamptonshire, England

I would very much doubt that the boy 'Arthur Prince' was the child of Jessie's husband


In 1911, Jessie says she's had 9 children, of whom 2 have died

Here's Dorothy's birth

ESTHERLEY, DOROTHY BERNICE WEST
GRO Reference: 1897 J Quarter in PETERBOROUGH Volume 03B Page 238 Occasional Copy: A

And two more

EATHERLEY, HILDA MAY WEST
GRO Reference: 1902 M Quarter in PETERBOROUGH Volume 03B Page 233

EATHERLEY, GLADYS LINDA WEST
GRO Reference: 1903 D Quarter in PETERBOROUGH Volume 03B Page 210 Order

Deaths Jun 1904 (>99%)
EATHERLEY Gladys L 0 Peterbro 3b 131

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 27 Oct 2018 12:11

Name: Francis English Eatheley
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1896
Registration Year: 1897
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Age at Death: 1
Registration district: Peterborough
Inferred County: Northamptonshire
Volume: 3b
Page: 134

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 27 Oct 2018 12:10

Marriages Dec 1891 (>99%)
Eatherley Edward Peterbro' 3b 601
West Jessie Peterbro' 3b 601

Name: Francis English Eatherley
Age: 0
Birth Date: Abt 1896
Baptism Date: 26 Feb 1896
Baptism Place: Peterborough, St John, Northamptonshire, England
Father: Edward Eatherley
Mother: Jessie Eatherley


EATHERLEY, MARGARET MARY JANE WEST
GRO Reference: 1892 J Quarter in PETERBOROUGH Volume 03B Page 249

EATHERLEY, FRANCIS ENGLISH WEST
GRO Reference: 1896 M Quarter in PETERBOROUGH Volume 03B Page 229 Order
EATHERLEY, GEORGE EDWARD WEST
GRO Reference: 1893 S Quarter in PETERBOROUGH Volume 03B Page 235 Order
EATHERLEY, OWEN SYLVESTER WEST
GRO Reference: 1895 M Quarter in PETERBOROUGH Volume 03B Page 245
EATHERLEY, ARTHUR PRINCE WEST
GRO Reference: 1901 M Quarter in PETERBOROUGH Volume 03B Page 248


You've already had details of Winifred's birth, so I won't re-post