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Teresa With Irish Blood in Me Veins
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18 Oct 2018 13:25 |
Any one descended from Laurence Lawless and wife Mary Anne?
Mary Anne Lawless died in Dec 1900 in Kingstown, Co. Dublin. Death Certificate gives her age as 61.
Burial record states 70! w/f Laurence Lawless
Laurence Lawless died 1901 in 1901 at the Loughlinstown Workhouse in Rathdown, Co. Dublin. Daughter Margaret Pollard was the informant. (She was my Great Grandmother)
Both are buried in the same grave no.at Deansgrave Graveyard Co. Dublin
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18 Oct 2018 14:00 |
Do you want help (if so, what) or just want to know if anyone else is researching these people?
I think it has been been suggested before that anyone related to the people you ask about is unlikely to just happen by your post.
Try using the Search Facility to check if anyone else is researching the names and then you can try contacting them.
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ErikaH
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18 Oct 2018 14:28 |
You know where to look to find connections on here
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Teresa With Irish Blood in Me Veins
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18 Oct 2018 15:26 |
This is some other informtion regarding Laurence Lawless & his wife Mary Anne.
Church Burial Record: Deansgrange – No Date Mary Anne LAWLESS Died 28 Dec 1900 aged 70 of 3 Paradise Place, Kingstown, Co. Dublin. W/F of Laurence Lawless Graveyard: DEANSGRANGE grave N3 111 N Informant was Michael GROVES - Relationship not Recorded
There is NO Death Registered for a Mary Lawless aged 70.
Church Burial Record Deansgrange – No Date Name: Laurence Lawless Date of Death: 17-Apr-1901 Age:74 Parish / District: DEANSGRANGE Address: The Workhouse Loughlinstown County: Co. Dublin Status: Widower (Male) Denomination: Roman Catholic Occupation: LABOURER
So Michael Groves and Mary Groves obviously didn’t known her correct age!
Death Certificate for Mary Anne Lawless;- MARY ANNE LAWLESS married, wife of a labourer Died 28 Dec 1900 aged 61 at Turners Ave. Informant: Granddaughter Mary Groves of Turners Avenue, Perhaps Mary Groves was looking after her Grandmother at the time she died as the date of death matches the Burial record but addresses differ.
Who are Michael Groves and Mary Groves? Were they husband and wife or not related in any way?
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ErikaH
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18 Oct 2018 15:39 |
1901 Irish census is free - as I have no doubt you know.
Try looking for them there
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AustinQ
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18 Oct 2018 16:39 |
possible:
1901: Residents of a house 7 in Bonds Lane (Kingstown, Dublin) Groves Michael 27 Male Head of Family Roman Catholic Co Dublin Geneal Labourer Groves Mary 28 Female Wife Roman Catholic Co Dublin - Groves Lena Female Daughter Roman Catholic Co Dublin - -----------------------------
1911 (Mary married 12 years) Residents of a house 2 in Baxter's Court (Kingstown No. 3, Dublin) Groves Michael 35 Male Head of Family Roman Catholic Co Dublin General Labourer Groves Mary 36 Female Wife Roman Catholic Co Dublin - Groves Lena 11 Female Daughter Roman Catholic Co Dublin Scholar Groves Maryanne 8 Female Daughter Roman Catholic Co Dublin Scholar Groves Michael 4 Male Son Roman Catholic Co Dublin Scholar Groves Edmond 3 Male Son Roman Catholic Co Dublin ----------------------------
Marriage:
Party 1 Name MICHAEL GROVES father: Phillip Groves Party 2 Name MARY Harriet MAGGIS (Turner's Ave) Father: Henry Maggis (Soldier) Date of Event 23 April 1899 Group Registration ID 2390655 SR District/Reg Area Rathdown ------------------------------------- Mary's birth:-
Birth: Name Harriet Mary Maggs Gender Female Birth Date 24 Aug 1871 Birthplace Northcote Ave, Kingstown, Dublin, Ireland Father's Name Henry Maggs (soldier) Mother's Name Mary Anne Lawless<<<<<<<<<<<<<< ----------------------------
However,- bit of confusion as the catholic registers for the Mary Harriet Maggis marriage states she was living in Turner's Ave, but parents were Henry Maggis and Mary Ann Norris/ Norres of Scotland.
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Teresa With Irish Blood in Me Veins
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18 Oct 2018 17:20 |
I have found all of those, but as you say confusion with regards to connecting the family to Mary anne Lawless who was married to Laurence Lawless as her maiden name was Hogan. It almost seems that there is a generation gap somewhere.. plus Michael Groves & Mary Groves on the 2 census records couldn't read or write according to the birth certificates of their children as signed with a Mark. 'X' Michael Groves signed the 2 census form with an X Mark also been recorded as MMN on some!
British Army WWI Pension Records 1914-1920
Name: Mary Maggs Gender: Female Marriage Date: 23 Sep 1896 Marriage Place: Kingstown Co Dublin Document Year: 1914 Relationship to Soldier: Spouse Form Title: Descriptive Report on Enlistment Number of Images: 6 Family Members: Name Relation to Soldier Michael Groves Self (Head) 36 Mary Maggs Spouse Esther A Groves Child Mary A Groves Child Michael Groves Child James Groves Child Philip Groves Child Margaret Groves Child Edward Groves Child
Birth dates differ for children and the Marriage! :-S
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18 Oct 2018 17:40 |
Ireland, Catholic Parish Registers Name: Mary Anne Lanless [Mary Anne Lawless] Baptism Age: 0 Event Type: Baptism Birth Date: 1849 Baptism Date: 2 Jun 1849 Baptism Place: Wicklow, Wicklow, Ireland Diocese: Dublin Father: Lawrence Lanless Mother: Mary Anne Hogan
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Teresa With Irish Blood in Me Veins
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18 Oct 2018 20:43 |
Yes I do have that Baptism of Mary Anne Lawless in Wicklow. she's a sister of my Gt Grandmother Margaret Mary Lawless who had a Twin Brother Michael Lawless but they were born in Co. Dublin..
Ireland, Catholic Parish Registers, 1655-1915 Name: Margaret Lawless Baptism Age: 0 Event Type: Baptism Birth Date: 1859 Baptism Date: 23 Feb 1859 Baptism Place: Kingstown, Dublin, Ireland Residence Place: Bray Parish Variants: Dun Laoghaire, St. Michael's, Kingstown Diocese: Dublin Father: Laurence Lawless
Mother: Mary Anne Lawless
Michael & Margaret Lawless twins.
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