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Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 12,339 Send Message	alviegal	Report	5 Oct 2018 12:34
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 12,339 Send Message	This is the only John Livsey I can find who is a carter. He married Jane Taylor in 1850. 1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census 1, New Springs, Halliwell, Bolton, Lancashire, England First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place John Livsey Head Married Male 34 1827 Carter Or Carrier Claton Green Lancashire, England Jane Livsey Wife Married Female 28 1833 Claton Lancashire, England Mary Livsey Daughter - Female 9 1852 Scholar Halliwell, Lancashire, England Peter Livsey Son - Male 6 1855 Scholar Halliwell, Lancashire, England John Livsey Son - Male 4 1857 Scholar Halliwell, Lancashire, England Jane Livsey Daughter - Female 3 1858 - Halliwell, Lancashire, England Emma Livsey Daughter - Female 0 1861 - Halliwell, Lancashire, England 1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census New Spring Cottages, Halliwell, Bolton, Lancashire, England First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place John Livesey Head - Male 48 1823 Carter, Walton-le-Dale Lancashire, England Jane Livesey Wife - Female 43 1828 Leyland Lancashire, England Mary Livesey Daughter - Female 19 1852 - Lancashire, England Peter Livesey Son - Male 17 1854 - Lancashire, England John Livesey Son - Male 15 1856 - Lancashire, England Jane Livesey Daughter - Female 13 1858 - Lancashire, England Emma Livesey Daughter - Female 11 1860 - Lancashire, England Annie M Livesey Daughter - Female 7 1864 - Lancashire, England Frances A Livesey Son - Male 5 1866 - Lancashire, England Teresa Ann Livesey Daughter - Female 3 1868 - Lancashire, England Wilfred Livesey Son - Male 0 1871 - Lancashire, England
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 12,339 Send Message	alviegal	Report	3 Oct 2018 20:54
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 12,339 Send Message	Jane's birth? First name(s) JANE Last name ASHURST Birth year 1845 Birth quarter 3 Registration month - Mother's maiden name - District Wigan County Lancashire Country England Volume XXI Page 796 and her mother Jane? Baptism: 21 Dec 1816 All Saints, Wigan, Lancashire, England Jane Fletcher - 4 Daur. of Giles Fletcher & Elizabeth Born: 13 Nov Abode: Aspull Occupation: Miner Baptised by: Edwd. Hill Register: Baptisms 1816 - 1819, Page 67, Entry 530 Source: LDS Film 1885676
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 12,339 Send Message	alviegal	Report	3 Oct 2018 20:29
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 12,339 Send Message	Possible death for John snr? ASHURST, JOHN 34 Order GRO Reference: 1849 D Quarter in WIGAN UNION Volume 21 Page 604 and the birth of John jnr? MMN is Fletcher. ASHURST, JOHN FLETCHER Order GRO Reference: 1849 S Quarter in WIGAN UNION Volume 21 Page 775
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 12,339 Send Message	alviegal	Report	3 Oct 2018 19:52
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 12,339 Send Message	???? I know the surname is not correct but I can't find births for the other children. Baptism: 5 Oct 1834 All Saints, Wigan, Lancashire, England William Ashall - 1 Son of John Ashall & Jane Born: 4 Sep Abode: Aspull Occupation: Miner Baptised by: H. O'Neill Register: Baptisms 1833 - 1836, Page 126, Entry 1006 Source: LDS Film 1885678 Baptism: 28 May 1839 All Saints, Wigan, Lancashire, England Thomas Ashall - 2d. Son of John Ashall & Jane Born: 21 May Abode: Aspull Occupation: Collier Baptised by: Charles Bisset Curate Register: Baptisms 1838 - 1842, Page 54, Entry 426 Source: LDS Film 1885679 ASHALL, THOMAS FLETCHER Order GRO Reference: 1839 J Quarter in WIGAN UNION LANCASHIRE Volume 21 Page 796 Marriage: 23 Feb 1834 All Saints, Wigan, Lancashire, England John Ashall - (X), Wigan Parish Jane Fletcher - (X), Wigan Parish Witness: Wm. Crawford; Saml. Vizard Married by Banns by: J. K. Glazebrrok Register: Marriages 1833 - 1835, Page 134, Entry 402 Source: LDS Film 1885692 Record Transcription: 1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census Vigo Row, Wigan, Lancashire, England Year of census: 1851 First name(s) Last name Sex Age Birth year Birth place John Ashall Male 25 1816 Lancashire, England Jane Ashall Female 25 1816 Lancashire, England William Ashall Male 6 1835 Lancashire, England Thomas Ashall Male 2 1839 Lancashire, England
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 12,339 Send Message	alviegal	Report	3 Oct 2018 16:44
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 12,339 Send Message	??? Baptism: 9 Oct 1841 All Saints, Wigan, Lancashire, England James Ashurst - 3d. Son of John Ashurst & Jane Born: 8 Oct Abode: Aspull Occupation: Miner Baptised by: Charles Bisset Curate Register: Baptisms 1838 - 1842, Page 312, Entry 2495 Source: LDS Film 1885679 ASHALL, JAMES FLETCHER Order GRO Reference: 1841 D Quarter in WIGAN UNION Volume 21 Page 685
Member Since: December 2009 Posts: 13,418 Send Message	Maddie	Report	3 Oct 2018 16:13
	if baptism for jane born 1817 is corect she has several siblings Ann Ashurst - first Daur. of Henry Ashurst & Mary Born: 6 Apr Abode: Orrell Occupation: Nailor Notes: [Mother's maiden name not recorded] Mother's Parents: Charles & Margaret Register: Baptisms 1799 - 1812, Page 273 Source: Original register at Wigan Archives Baptism: 19 Nov 1815 St Thomas, Upholland, Lancashire, England John Ashurst - Son of Henry Ashurst & Mary Abode: Orrell Occupation: Nailor Baptised by: Revd. Jno. Bird A.B. Curate Register: Baptism 1813 - 1825, Page 71, Entry 566 Source: LDS Film 1657546 Baptism: 28 Dec 1817 All Saints, Wigan, Lancashire, England Jane Ashurst - 3 Daur. of Henry Ashurst & Mary ------------------- Abode: Orrell Occupation: Nailor Baptised by: Benjn. Powell Curate Register: Baptisms 1816 - 1819, Page 160, Entry 1273 Source: LDS Film 1885676 Baptism: 2 Apr 1820 All Saints, Wigan, Lancashire, England Reuben Ashurst - 3 Son of Henry Ashurst & Mary Born: 12 Mar Abode: Orrell Occupation: Nailor Baptised by: Ben. Powell Register: Baptisms 1819 - 1822, Page 73, Entry 581 Source: LDS Film 1885676 Baptism: 7 Jul 1822 All Saints, Wigan, Lancashire, England Esther Ashurst - 4 Daur. of Henry Ashurst & Mary Born: 15 Jun Abode: Orrell Occupation: Nailor Baptised by: G. Goodwill Curate Register: Baptisms 1822 - 1825, Page 5, Entry 34 Source: LDS Film 1885677 Baptism: 12 Nov 1826 All Saints, Wigan, Lancashire, England Thomas Ashurst - 5 Son of Henry Ashurst & Mary Born: 1 Oct Abode: Orrell Occupation: Nailor Baptised by: J. Bromilow Curate Register: Baptisms 1825 - 1827, Page 199, Entry 1585 Source: LDS Film 1885677 Baptism: 3 Jul 1830 All Saints, Wigan, Lancashire, England John Ashurst - 6 Son of Henry Ashurst & Mary Born: 9 Jun Abode: Orrell Occupation: Nailor Baptised by: J. Bromilow Curate Register: Baptisms 1827 - 1830, Page 277, Entry 2213 Source: LDS Film 1885677 Baptism: 18 Nov 1832 All Saints, Wigan, Lancashire, England William Ashurst - 7 Son of Henry Ashurst & Mary Born: 9 Sep Abode: Orrell Occupation: Nailor Baptised by: J. Bromilow Curate Register: Baptisms 1830 - 1833, Page 235, Entry 1873 Source: LDS Film 1885678 Marriage: 12 Oct 1807 All Saints, Wigan, Lancashire, England Henry Ashurst - (X), Orrell Mary Hooton - (X), Orrell Witness: Wm. Bancks; Ellen Birchall, (X) Married by Banns by: George Bridgeman Rector Register: Marriages 1803 - 1812, Page 193, Entry 669 Source: LDS Film 1885690
Member Since: December 2009 Posts: 13,418 Send Message	Maddie	Report	3 Oct 2018 16:02
	Marriage: 8 Aug 1864 All Saints, Wigan, Lancashire, England James Pollet - (X), 24, Collier, Bachelor, Hallgate Jane Ashurst - (X), 18, Spinster, Hallgate Groom's Father: George Higham, Bleacher Bride's Father: John Livsey, Carter Witness: James Baunder; Sarah Hughes Married by Banns by: Edwd.H.Aldridge Curate Register: Marriages 1856 - 1865, Page 218, Entry 436 Source: LDS Film 1885698 only combination of ashurst / livsey on lancs opc
Member Since: May 2004 Posts: 32 Send Message	Helen	Report	3 Oct 2018 15:56
Member Since: May 2004 Posts: 32 Send Message	Yes that is Jane's baptism, from that record it would appear that her mother Jane was not married, yet it says on some censuses that she is a widow!!.Thanks everyone for looking.Helen.
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 12,339 Send Message	alviegal	Report	3 Oct 2018 15:40
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 12,339 Send Message	Is this Jane's baptism perhaps? Baptism: 5 Oct 1845 All Saints, Wigan, Lancashire, England Jane Ashurst - Daur. of Jane Ashurst Born: 30 Aug Abode: Aspull Baptised by: John Lomas Curate Register: Baptisms 1845 - 1848, Page 47, Entry 372 Source: Original register at Wigan Archives
Member Since: December 2009 Posts: 13,418 Send Message	Maddie	Report	3 Oct 2018 15:34
	???? Jane Last name Ashurst Gender Female Birth year 1845 Birth place - Baptism year 1845 Baptism date 05 Oct 1845 Place Wigan County Lancashire Country England Father's first name(s) - Father's last name - Mother's first name(s) Jane Mother's last name Ashurst Record set England Births & Baptisms 1538-1975 Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Jane Last name Ashurst Gender Female Birth year - Birth place - Baptism year 1817 Baptism date 28 Dec 1817 Residence Wigan, Lancashire, England Place Wigan County Lancashire Country England Father's first name(s) Henry Father's last name Ashurst Mother's first name(s) Mary Mother's last name - Record set England Births & Baptisms 1538-1975 ASHURST, JOHN - Order GRO Reference: 1849 M Quarter in WIGAN UNION Volume 21 Page 933
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 12,339 Send Message	alviegal	Report	3 Oct 2018 15:31
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 12,339 Send Message	1861 for Jane, the mother. 1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census 10, Ironmonger Lane, Wigan, Lancashire, England First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Jane Ashurst Head Widow Female 48 1813 ... Aspull, Lancashire, England William Ashurst Son Married Male 27 1834 Coal Miner Aspull, Lancashire, England John Ashurst Son - Male 12 1849 Coal Miner Wigan, Lancashire, England
Member Since: May 2004 Posts: 32 Send Message	Helen	Report	3 Oct 2018 15:21
Member Since: May 2004 Posts: 32 Send Message	Thank you Margaret for your help.Yes I have them in 1871,they go to Yorshire and 3 children are born there,then they return to Wigan.Helen
Member Since: April 2004 Posts: 23,482 Send Message	MargaretM	Report	3 Oct 2018 15:11
	On the 1871 census James & Jane Pollitt have living with them Jane's mother, Jane Ashursts, 57 and her brother John Ashursts, 21.
	Researching: Great grandmother Dorothy Bean nee Abbott (1858-1908)
Member Since: May 2004 Posts: 32 Send Message	Helen	Report	3 Oct 2018 15:05
Member Since: May 2004 Posts: 32 Send Message	Thank you Maddie for your help.Helen.
Member Since: December 2009 Posts: 13,418 Send Message	Maddie	Report	3 Oct 2018 15:01
	Record Transcription: 1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Chapel Lane, Wigan, Lancashire, England What can I do with this record? Members that resided in the household at the time of the census. First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Jane Ashurst Head W Female 34 1817 - Aspull, Lancashire, England William Ashurst Son - Male 13 1838 Drawer In Coal Pet Aspull, Lancashire, England Thomas Ashurst Son - Male 10 1841 Hooker On Coal Pit Aspull, Lancashire, England James Ashurst Son - Male 9 1842 Door Tenter Pit Aspull, Lancashire, England Jane Ashurst Daur - Female 5 1846 - Aspull, Lancashire, England John Ashurst Son - Male 1 1850 - Wigan, Lancashire, England Caroline Nk Lodger - Female 20 1831 - Ireland Jane Ashurst's Census Details Details taken from the original census record.
Member Since: May 2004 Posts: 32 Send Message	Helen	Report	3 Oct 2018 14:51
Member Since: May 2004 Posts: 32 Send Message	Jane Ashurst born Aspull,Wigan Lancs 1845 was the daughter of Jane Ashurst and baptised at All Saints Wigan.Iam trying to find out if she had any siblings and also details of her mother also called Jane.When she married James Pollit in 1864 she said that her father was John Livsey a carter.Thank you.Helen.

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