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Mary

Mary Report 26 Sep 2018 09:42

Benjamin Ransby born 1807/8 married Rebecca Hellby in 13/10/ 1834 in Essex he was transported for 7 years in 1837 for Stealing Cloth,it also states his dad was also transported who was Daniel I think.

Benjamin Ransby died Australia 1875 mum Ann

Maryb

greyghost

greyghost Report 26 Sep 2018 00:37

Am thinking that the Henry who married Rebecca in 1847 was a Henry Anthony, appearing at marriage and 1841 census as Henry and 1851 (not posted, but Lampril on FMP) and 1861 as Anthony.

1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Queen Street, Southminster Essex, Maldon, Essex, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Anthony Lamprell Head Married Male 70 1791 Agricultural Labourer Essex, England
Rebecca Lamprell Wife Married Female 46 1815 - Essex, England
Eliza Lamprell Daughter Unmarried Female 12 1849 - Essex, England
Henry Lamprell Son - Male 21 1840 Agricultural Labourer Essex, England
Obadiah Halstead Lodger - Male 18 1843 Agricultural Labourer Essex, England

greyghost

greyghost Report 26 Sep 2018 00:30

Susan Ransby
England Births and Christenings
Name Susan Ransby
Gender Female
Christening Date 16 Jun 1837
Christening Date (Original) 16 JUN 1837
Christening Place SOUTHMINSTER,ESSEX,ENGLAND
Father's Name Benjamin Ransby
Mother's Name Rebecca

Possible death Q1 1838 Maldon RD - on freebmd but not GRO index (reported)

greyghost

greyghost Report 26 Sep 2018 00:25

sorry, it's too late to compute this one but I'll throw it in for now - and i know it's not helping to find Kate.

Despite the 1868 marriage showing as only Henry Ransby, the marriage of his daughter Rosina say that his name was Henry Anthony. Census show him to be born in South Minster, Essex

I can't get away from this one - is Rebecca the Mother here?
Henry has a daughter Rebecca and a son Henry Anthony

1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census
West Street, Southminster, Maldon, Essex, England

First name(s) Last name Sex Age Birth year Birth place
Henry Lamprel Male 40 1801 Essex, England
Rebecca Ransby Female 25 1816 Essex, England
Ann Ransby Female 6 1835 Essex, England
Henry Ransby Male 2 1839 Essex, England
Elizabeth Ransby Female 0 1841 Essex, England

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Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: Order:
LAMPRELL, HENRY ANTONY LAMPRELL KING Order
GRO Reference: 1839 J Quarter in MALDON Volume 12 Page 153

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Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Mar 1847 (>99%)
Lamprell Anthony Maldon 12 209
RANSBY Rebecca Maldon 12 209

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and was Rebecca Ransby born as King

Name Ann Ransby
Gender Female
Christening Date 12 Jul 1835
Christening Date (Original) 12 JUL 1835
Christening Place SOUTHMINSTER,ESSEX,ENGLAND
Father's Name Benjamin Ransby
Mother's Name Rebecca


alviegal

alviegal Report 25 Sep 2018 20:07

Rosina.

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census

15, Crossfield Lane, St Paul Deptford, Greenwich, London & Kent, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Charles J Nixon Head Married Male 24 1877 Bricklayers Labourer Deptford, England
Rose Nixon Wife Married Female 23 1878 - Deptford, England
Charles J Nixon Son - Male 1 1900 - Deptford, England



1911 Census For England & Wales

32 Heston St Deptford S E, St Paul Deptford, London & Kent, England


First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Charles Nixon Head Married Male 32 1879 Carman General Deptford
Rose Nixon Wife Married Female 31 1880 - Deptford
Charles Nixon Son - Male 11 1900 School Deptford
Olive Nixon Daughter - Female 8 1903 School Deptford
Rosie Nixon Daughter - Female 5 1906 - Deptford
William Nixon Son - Male 0 1911 - Deptford
George Stone Head Married Male 33 1878 Carman Deptford
Nellie Stone Wife Married Female 33 1878 - Deptford
George Stone Son - Male 11 1900 School Deptford
Nellie Stone Daughter - Female 0 1911 - Deptford
Polly Stone Daughter - Female 9 1902 School Deptford
Hannah Stone Daughter - Female 8 1903 School Deptford





1939 Register Transcription

Nixon Household (2 People) 9 Foreman House , Deptford, London, England

First name(s) Last name(s) DOB Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule Sub Number
Rosina Nixon 11 Dec 1876 Female Unpaid Dom Duties Married 81 2
Charles J Nixon 19 Jul 1877 Male General Labourer Married 81 1

Mary

Mary Report 25 Sep 2018 13:22

It is on the marriage record on Ancestry.co.uk,
unfortunately it won't let me copy and paste.

Maryb.

Toni

Toni Report 25 Sep 2018 12:27

Mary....Thank you so much...how did you find dad's name without ordering the marriage cert?
This is our girl...sadly no sign of kate living with her :-(

Mary

Mary Report 25 Sep 2018 10:27

Rose Ransby age 23 married 8/7/1899 dad Henry Anthony Ransby dead
to Charles James Nixon 22
Witness Amelia Eliza Barlow and James Robert Johnston

1911 32,Heston St Deptford
Charles James Nixon married 12 years 5 children one died(Elizabeth Amelia Nixon born 1901 died 1901)
Rose

Rosina Nixon born about 1877 died in Greenwich Sept 1947 V5c P464.

Maryb.

Toni

Toni Report 24 Sep 2018 22:15

Malyon. .thinking that marraige looks good.

Greyghost. .Henry and emma have the same death registration number in the same quarter of the same year. I had also summised rebecca death was wrongly registered as rainsbury. Which after william, leaves us with just rosina unaccounted for. There is a possibility kate was living with her in 1911, but I can find neither on the 1911 census
Rosina may have married...I need to do a bit more research on this.

Mary..It is looking like amelia went on to married Mr laws. ..again I am pretty sure she was still legally married to william at this point.

Thank you all for your help. We may not be any closer to the answers, but it has highlighted some gaps in my research. We may get there yet.

Mary

Mary Report 24 Sep 2018 19:08

So she did marry 1919 to John laws ?

Amelia Eliza Ransby baptised 2/9/1885 birth 15/2/1869 same as on 1939 register.

Deaths? Amelia E laws born about 1869 died 12 1949 in Rugby Warwickshire V69 P 1728
Same month as Amelia? John laws born about 1870 died Dec 1940 in Rugby V69 P 1755


Maryb.

malyon

malyon Report 24 Sep 2018 18:11

Henry Ransby
England and Wales Marriage Registration Index, 1837-2005
Name: Henry Ransby
Event Type: Marriage
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Registration Year: 1868
Registration District: Rotherhithe
County: London
Event Place: Rotherhithe, London, England
Volume: 1D
Page: 896
Line Number: 7

malyon

malyon Report 24 Sep 2018 18:09

census for henry ransby 1881

Henry Ransby
England and Wales Census, 1881
Name: Henry Ransby
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1881
Event Place: St Nicholas Deptford, London,Kent, England
Registration District: Greenwich
Residence Note: Stowage
Gender: Male
Age: 41
Marital Status (Original): Married
Occupation: Labr
Relationship to Head of Household: Head
Birth Year (Estimated): 1840
Birthplace: Munster Louth, England
Page Number: 29
Registration Number: RG11
Piece/Folio: 717/88
Affiliate Record Type: Household
Household Role Sex Age Birthplace
Henry Ransby Head Male 41 Munster Louth, England
Amelia Ransby Wife Female 41 Deptford, Kent, England
Eliza Ransby Daughter Female 12 Deptford, Kent, England
Rosina Ransby Daughter Female 5 Deptford, Kent, England
Wm Ransby Son Male 1 Deptford, Kent, England

greyghost

greyghost Report 24 Sep 2018 17:22

England & Wales Marriages 1837-2005
(freebmd has surname Ransey - original scan shows Ransby - correction sent)

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Jun 1868 (>99%)
Lewis Mary Agnes Rotherhithe 1d 896
Ransey Henry Rotherhithe 1d 896 <<<<<<<<
Wyatt Amelia Rotherhithe 1d 896 <<<<<<<<


Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: Order:

RANSBY, ELIZA AMELIA WYATT Order
GRO Reference: 1869 M Quarter in GREENWICH Volume 01D Page 768 Order

RANSBY, HENRY ANTONY WYATT Order
GRO Reference: 1870 D Quarter in GREENWICH Volume 01D Page 726

RANSBY, EMMA WYATT Order
GRO Reference: 1872 S Quarter in GREENWICH Volume 01D Page 807 Order

RANSBY, REBECCA WYATT Order
GRO Reference: 1873 S Quarter in GREENWICH Volume 01D Page 825

RANSBY, ROSINA WYATT Order
GRO Reference: 1876 M Quarter in GREENWICH Volume 01D Page 884 Order

RANSBY, WILLIAM FREDERICK WYATT Order
GRO Reference: 1879 S Quarter in GREENWICH Volume 01D Page 980

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Name: Age at Death (in years): Order:
RANSBY, HENRY ANTHONY 1 Order
GRO Reference: 1872 S Quarter in GREENWICH Volume 01D Page 465

Deaths Sep 1874 (>99%)
Rainsbury Rebecca 1 Greenwich 1d 460

Is this Rebecca's death, not seeing a birth to match, but hearing an accent - Ransby to Rainsbury

Deaths Mar 1882 (>99%)
Ransby William Frederick 2 Greenwich 1d 695

malyon

malyon Report 24 Sep 2018 15:56

this is the only kate e barlow born 1895

Births Mar 1895 (>99%)
Barlow Kate Ellen Nottingham 7b 426


Marriages Dec 1926 (>99%)
Barlow Kate E Larkin St Martin 1a 1101

Toni

Toni Report 24 Sep 2018 15:46

William was an only child. He had a stepbrother George born 1884 and a stepsister Hannah born 1877. Amelia/Eliza had 5 brothers and sisters that I can trace. Only one other survived to 1901 and that was rosina born 1876 Greenwich.

Williams parents were Robert John Barlow and Mary Jones. Robert is on the 1911 census with his new wife and her children (williams step siblings) mary died shortly after william was born. Amelia parents were Henry ransby and Amelia Wyatt. Both were dead by 1911.

It is possible late was living with rosina in 1911. But I can't find a listing for rosina or a marriage.

Hope this helps with some background.


alviegal

alviegal Report 24 Sep 2018 14:12

Possible 1939 for the marriage that greyghost posted. I understand you are looking for Kate, Toni, but we like to look at all family members to see if anything shows up.
So far, I can find nothing for her.



82a Poplar High Street , Poplar, London, England

First name(s) Last name(s) DOB Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule Sub Number
Eliza A Laws 15 Feb 1869 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 10 2
John Laws 29 Oct 1870 Male Wharf Labourer (Retired) Married 10 1

Toni

Toni Report 23 Sep 2018 21:00

Thank you everyone - I know that William - my great grandfather - shows on the 1911 census with another lady and in 1914 marries my great grandmother. He was probably still legally married to Amelia at this point. I also know there is a possible marriage for Amelia in 1919.

My problem lies with tracing Kate. She is not on the 1911 census. There is a possible listing for Amelia (often listed as Eliza) on the 1911 in an asylum, but no sign of Kate.

I cannot find ANY birth or death records for Kate.

Its a bit of a brick wall

Mary

Mary Report 23 Sep 2018 19:25

William remarried 1914 to Daisy Margaret Bullen born 1892 according to tree on Ancestry they had 7 children and in 1939 he was a watchmaker.
William died 1952

They also say Amelia Eliza died Heywood lancs 1959

Maryb

alviegal

alviegal Report 23 Sep 2018 19:22

??

William Edward Barlow, 37. pedlar, of 35, Plevnastreet. Poplar, and Frederick Charles Hodges, 20, labourer, of 8, Chari es-terraco, Mill wall, were cuarged, on remand, beloro Mr. Baggallay, with stealing marble clock, silver cream jug, silver
20 September 1904 - London Evening Standard - London, London, England

greyghost

greyghost Report 23 Sep 2018 19:19

There is also this marriage -
Surname First name(s) Spouse District Vol Page
Marriages Mar 1919 (>99%)
Barlow Amelia E Laws Poplar 1c 626 <<<<<<<<<
Laws John Barlow Poplar 1c 626 <<<<<<<<<
Little Eleanor F Petersen Poplar 1c 626
Petersen Harold Little Poplar 1c 626

<<<<<<< shown on a n other website to be the couple