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IMHO .......... FMP is slightly better at the moment

They got the 1939 Register from the Government first, did the transcriptions (which are not perfect!), but they have been updating a) by FMP members sending in proof of death (eg death certificate) for relatives, and b) by staff slowly and surely checking against the GRO records and opening blacked out records or checking birth dates for people over 100.

Ancestry didn't get the Register until this year ............ and records that have been opened on FMP are still blacked out on Ancestry. I doubt they will share, so the ancestry version will have to depend on members sending in proof of death.



Also remember that thousands of Brits emigrated after the war. Their deaths will not be recorded in the UK and so records will remain closed.

Records of people over 100 years should be open .......... but my uncle was born in 1896 and his record is still closed, her died in Australia in the 1960s.

28 Grove Lea Crescent , Pontefract M.B., Yorkshire (West Riding), England
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FIRST NAME(S) LAST NAME(S) DOB OCCUPATION
George Hornby 06 May 1886 Joiner Journeyman

Harriett Hornby 02 May 1888 Unpaid Domestic Duties

Phyllis Birdsall 14 Feb 1918 Card Box Maker.

1939 register.



Phyllis appears in a married surname name.

The Newby females Harriett and Priscilla appear to be cousins.

Not sure about Phyllis ,

Phyllis looks to belong to this couple.?.


Marriages Jun 1911 (>99%)
Hornby George Pontefract 9c 237 Scan available - click to view.

Newby Harriet Pontefract 9c 237 Scan available - click to view.

Yes I got the 1915 for Doris It has happened a few time now where a person is blacked out it was just by chance I thought of trying to see if another site had it
I'm not over keen on FMP I like to get in touch with people to verify thing
but thank you for helping me

I have the marriage Thank you

Births Dec 1915
Hornby Doris Newby York 9d 64

Births Dec 1917
Hornby Edward Newby York 9d 47

Births Mar 1918
Hornby Phyllis Newby Pontefract 9c 207

Marriages Sep 1915 (>99%)

Hornby Thomas Newby York 9d 97
Newby Priscilla Hornby York 9d 97

The above Doris was actually born in 1915 NOT 1845 !! - mothers maiden name for both Edward and Doris was Newby !

Dea x

The same thing was also the case on another recent thread - I can't remember now which one - where the image on Ancestry showed someone as a closed record, but FMP showed the record opened (or maybe it was vice versa!).

Thank you for that I can add him to my tree thought of the 2 it would be him as he was born the same place as Doris which site was that on

Thomas Hornby on the 1939 Register

1939 Register Transcription

Hornby Household (4 People) 13 King Street , York C.B., Yorkshire (West Riding), England
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First name(s) Last name(s) DOB Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule Sub Number
Thomas Hornby 20 Nov 1863 Male Boilersmith - Retired Married 223 1
Priscilla Hornby 24 Jun 1880 Female Housewife Married 223 2
Doris Hornby 24 Sep 1845 Female Carpet Sewer Single 223 3
Edward Hornby 25 Aug 1917 Male Panned Goods Maker - Chocolate Works Single 223 4

Just wondering if all the sites have the same info for the 1939 census or do some give more up to date info ?


I have a Thomas Hornby born 20 Nov 1863 with wife Priscila 20 June 1880 daughter Doris 24 Sept 1915 then their is one blacked out I've looked for births and their are 2 Phylis 1918 and Edward 1918 not sure if they are the same family so this is why I'm asking about the 1939 census


They are at 13 Kings St Yorkshire (West Riding) K.Z.B.D
I'm on ancestry