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Thanks again detective i will carry out those searches now, i did the basic google searches and click ons but nothing so obviously im looking in all the wrond g places again.
Great grandmother
Name,EMILY HIOM
Born, 5TH OCTOBER 1893 Died, 1950
Births Dec 1891 (>99%)
Hiom Emily Marylebone 1a 579
Marriages were (she stated on the 2 i have as if she was born in 1897?)
WALTER HALL 1911 MARYLEBONE
THOMAS G KAY 1928 MEDINA ROAD
ARTHUR JOHN POYTON 1945 EDMONTON

Thanks rootgatherer, im not sure to who, this is information i have recently got after i met with the new cousins i have :-) They dont know much abouth it all just what they were told from their mum.
How would i find out which marriage would have been the bigamous one? She did go to holloway im not sure of what year etc :-/

Great grandmother is Emily Hiom b 1892 who married Walter Hall in 1911. She then had children with widower Sampson Maynard.

Her other marriages


Marriages Sep 1928 (>99%)
Hall Emily Kay Islington 1b
Kay Thomas G Hall Islington 1b 853

Marriages Mar 1945 (>99%)
Kay Emily Poyton Edmonton 3a 2034
Poyton Arthur J Kay Edmonton 3a 2034
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so is it one of those that was bigamous please?

Try the British Newspaper Archive. Its included in some GR & FMP subscriptions.

As there's so many names on this thread, can you pick out the details of your great grandmother?
When she was born
Name at birth (not the pet name)
Who she married & when.

Those of us who have a sub covering the BNA can have a look. Try a search yourself on GR & post the results so we can see if they are relevant.

ok thank you, i was trying to trace the address for more relative names... I have since traced living cousins too with thanks to you guys here being as helpful as you are. :-) Thank you

Also with the Rachel confusion .... she was known as Rachel but she was in fact born Emily. Her mum ( my greatgran) was imprisoned for bigamy apparently in holloway prison. I was told after meeting up with some new cousins :-) I havent found any concrete proof and wouldnt know where to start on that one.
Thank yuou again tho :-)

oh and i think archie is arthur....

rachel is the only one that came to see my father when he died.... and te only one my auntie remembers is her and a stanley ? very confusing the ways it all branches off and why all the new marriages etc his mother had.... thank you AustinQ for the help. My nan threw everything away in regards to my grandad sadly so im struggling but the info you have all found i dont think i would for ages.... maybe sampson maynard senior had another woman at the house who had more children within the 5 years he died?

Could anyone check how many ppl lived at the 562 caledonian road plz

He wasn't there in 1914, but is recorded there from 1919 till he died, as per info already found for you

Not sure that records are available for the War years

Marriages will be on freebmd - easy to find. I'll let you have the pleasure of tracing them. AustinQ has given you the years

Rootgatherer thank you for that info, i guess i can tick that name off then....

thanks again AustinQ ifor those marriage years.... maybe they did have kids i will try check it out... thanks again..

Thanks AustinQ....
When was the marriage with thomas george kay ? Seems she had a few making it harder to track ....

The Sampson Maynard listed at 562 Caledoinian Road died in 1922- sems to of had more from what my auntie and father tell me, hence the names they gave rachel and archie, recently i was given stanley too?? Rachel wouldve been younger than sampson but im not sure exactly how much younger....

Early on i was assuming rachel/rachael surname wouldve been the same .... before findin the later children and names and husbands now invovlved....jheeeze... thank you so much for your time...

Sorry guys ill keeps posts here i didnt realise it was better....
info to update you all....

Sampson maynard senior was married to louisa cracknell jones who died in 1914...he met emily hiom and had a son named sampson maynard hall, registered at 562 caledonian road, holloway, middlesex in 1917.

So, with your help it looks like Sampson Maynard senior was Sampson Maynard Halls bio father. I really cant thank you enough. Im trying to get as much info for my dad as he collapsed the other day and has alot of unaswered questions with his family histoy.

Would anyone be so kind as to search above address to see how long the MAYNARDS occupied a residence.... ( i have been given 1919,1920,1921 as sampson maynard senior livng there alone but i would like any other years too if possible showing other occupants would be great to as i am at a bit of a stand still.

My Grand father has the address on his birth cert (1917) i am trying to find his sister rachel :-(

ErikaH- reading the thread makes it clear.

Emily Hiom married Walter Hall- she had child Sampson in 1917, but Walter was not listed on the birth certificate (presumably as he wasn't the father). Emily later married Thomas Kay in 1928, and married again in 1945 to Arthur Poyton.

Carly had thought that Sampson had a younger sister called Rachel, but we are struggling to find her. The only sister found was Emily born 1920 who married William Warne.

From the original request on page one of this thread

His name Sampson Maynard Hall, no father on birth cert 1917. Would like to know any siblings he had. His father was Walter Hall

Sorry, but I can't make sense of the above...........................what am I missing?

Another thread started -

https://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1373817?jump=1373817

According to the 1911 census, Samson Maynard and his wife were childless.

Carly- the only sister I can see with surname Hall and mother's maiden name Hiom is Emily b1920.

Sampson's mother was young enough to have children with her Husband, Thomas George Kay- but I don't see any children registered.

The Samson Maynard listed at 562 Caledoinian Road died in 1922- so would not have had a child a lot younger than Sampson Hall.

It might be possible that husands Thomas G Kay or Arthur J Poyton had other children- although again I'm not seeing any connection with a Rachel/ Rachael and those surnames.

Where did you get the name Rachel M and Archie from?

Also.... could rachel possibly be the paternal side which is whyi havent found her under hall.... or mmn Hiom

oh wow you guys i am speechless..... so do you think rachel couldve had another surname? i know she was quite a bit younger than sampson....seems she had alot of children.....but strange no rachel..... i also know now thanks to you guys that walter hall was not his bio father.... more stuff to uncover....jheeeze.... thanks again

Sampson M Hall's sister was Emily (1920)- she married William D Warne in 1943 Islington:

Marriages Dec 1943
Hall Emily Warne Edmonton 3a 1919
Warne William D Hall Edmonton 3a 1919
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Emily Warne died in 2004:

Death:
Name: Emily Warne
Death Age: 84
Birth Date: 20 Jan 1920
Registration Date: Dec 2004
Registration district: Enfield
Inferred County: Middlesex
Register Number: B51D
District and Subdistrict: 227/1B
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Sampson M Hall's brother, Edward (1919) died 1919:

Death:
Name: Edward M Hall
Death Age: 0
Birth Date: abt 1919
Registration Date: Mar 1919
Registration district: Islington
Inferred County: Greater London
Volume: 1b Page: 450

As there is no father listed on Sampson's birth certificate it's possible his father's surname was Maynard?

In 1919- 1921 a Sampson Maynard is on the electoral register at:

562 Caledonian Road, Islington

Is this the man you are trying to find out about?

Samson/ Sampson Maynard died in 1922. He was married to Louisa Cracknell Jones. Louisa died in 1914:

England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations)
MAYNARD Louisa Cracknell of 562 Caledoinian Road Holloway Middlesex (wife of Samson Maynard) died 4th January 1914 Administration London 4 February to the said Samson Maynard, horse dealer. Effects £380